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MrDeeds

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Originally posted by WalkAway

You have to be a naive moron or very desperate to be fooled by a scam that is religion. Or you can be brainwashed in to it, i guess.

That's ignorance.

Iris

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Originally posted by IVY

no.
it is the one like u that should stop talking . military coups r finished . know that , accept it and move on.
those who did the failed attempt must be punished coz if God forbidden they succeeded , they would pull back Turkey into the Ataturk version of poverty and retardation . No mercy for them , they r traitors regardless of what ideology the elected government comes from .
Military Riot is Forbidden coz the happening of military riots is a sign of reactionary act that will ultimately destroy any hope of civil state . Egypt is the most recent example of that. some Europe and US politicians need to understand that. i do not care about the ideology or hidden agenda of any party is having . Military coup is deadly . if the Turkish secular opposition wants to get red of Erdogan, then they need to work on their companions to convince the citizens .

katara

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Originally posted by IVY

no.
it is the one like u that should stop talking . military coups r finished . know that , accept it and move on.
those who did the failed attempt must be punished coz if God forbidden they succeeded , they would pull back Turkey into the Ataturk version of poverty and retardation . No mercy for them , they r traitors regardless of what ideology the elected government comes from .

Military Riot is Forbidden coz the happening of military riots is a sign of reactionary act that will ultimately destroy any hope of civil state . Egypt is the most recent example of that. some Europe and US politicians need to understand that. i do not care about the ideology or hidden agenda of any party is having . Military coup is deadly . if the Turkish secular opposition wants to get red of Erdogan, then they need to work on their companions to convince the citizens .

umm you should educate yourself on Ataturk's era a BIT!

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Originally posted by MrDeeds

That's ignorance.

the irony at this coming from a religious person. Oh my.

J a y

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Originally posted by IVY

no.
it is the one like u that should stop talking . military coups r finished . know that , accept it and move on.
those who did the failed attempt must be punished coz if God forbidden they succeeded , they would pull back Turkey into the Ataturk version of poverty and retardation . No mercy for them , they r traitors regardless of what ideology the elected government comes from .
Military Riot is Forbidden coz the happening of military riots is a sign of reactionary act that will ultimately destroy any hope of civil state . Egypt is the most recent example of that. some Europe and US politicians need to understand that. i do not care about the ideology or hidden agenda of any party is having . Military coup is deadly . if the Turkish secular opposition wants to get red of Erdogan, then they need to work on their companions to convince the citizens .

Probably should have just linked this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15641745 and said nothing else.

That's an argument against coups that no one can win.

Bangerzzz

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Originally posted by J a y

Probably should have just linked this http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-15641745 and said nothing else.

That's an argument against coups that no one can win.

No one supports the coup?

LilKim

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Originally posted by IVY

no.
it is the one like u that should stop talking . military coups r finished . know that , accept it and move on.
those who did the failed attempt must be punished coz if God forbidden they succeeded , they would pull back Turkey into the Ataturk version of poverty and retardation . No mercy for them , they r traitors regardless of what ideology the elected government comes from .
Military Riot is Forbidden coz the happening of military riots is a sign of reactionary act that will ultimately destroy any hope of civil state . Egypt is the most recent example of that. some Europe and US politicians need to understand that. i do not care about the ideology or hidden agenda of any party is having . Military coup is deadly . if the Turkish secular opposition wants to get red of Erdogan, then they need to work on their companions to convince the citizens .

**** You.

Terylee

I'm getting Hitler teas tbh. Hope I'm wrong.

AvrilLaQueen

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Originally posted by IVY

no.
it is the one like u that should stop talking . military coups r finished . know that , accept it and move on.
those who did the failed attempt must be punished coz if God forbidden they succeeded , they would pull back Turkey into the Ataturk version of poverty and retardation . No mercy for them , they r traitors regardless of what ideology the elected government comes from .
Military Riot is Forbidden coz the happening of military riots is a sign of reactionary act that will ultimately destroy any hope of civil state . Egypt is the most recent example of that. some Europe and US politicians need to understand that. i do not care about the ideology or hidden agenda of any party is having . Military coup is deadly . if the Turkish secular opposition wants to get red of Erdogan, then they need to work on their companions to convince the citizens .

Bangerzzz

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Originally posted by WFL

Now they are talking about making it easier for people to get armed. The incoming mass shootings if that happens...

Or civil war

What would happen if Erdogan supporters went outside with guns during the coup attempt

katara

Turkey going down the drain just like most of these thoecratic islamic countries. Sad.

Shame they had potential to be a considerable global force. Now with theocratic rules and laws their economy will hit rock bottom. When will these countries realise that mixing religion with the state is NEVER a good idea.

Istanbul and other western liberal parts of Turkey should just split from the rest of the country tbh and let those retarded ignorants from the east rot together with their faith and leader Erdogan. The west side of the country is the driving force of the ecomony anyway while the east was/is leeching off of them.

J a y

Turkish official: Clashes between security forces, resisting coup backers in Istanbul.

Law enforcement fired warning shots near airport, coup plotters did not return fire, arrests being made - official

In other breaking news:

Turkish President Erdogan, responding to crowd calling for the death penalty, says 'we can't ignore this demand'

@AP @Reuters as the sources

Terylee

So Erdogan wants death penalty back? Idiot

Edit: and the people also. Pathetic.

They probably still think they can join the EU.

Chemist

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Originally posted by WiddLe

So lemme break it down whats goin on as a person who lived everything first hand last night. and basically livin for the last decade. There are only 2 possible scenarios for this.

1 This was all planned and staged. Officials knew about this and they did it to save the day and grow more power. (Since erdogan rulling the country for 14 years and he wants to continue till he dies basically.)

2 The last remaining deep members of fetullah gulen cult decided to do this even tho they were not organized enough.

Because a lot things doesn't add up. We had internet / tv connection all the way. No communication lost. Party leaders were all safe and sound and was making statements on TV. If they had control over air traffic -all those jets flying and bombing- why they didn't just interfere the erdogan's plane and make him land somewhere else to get control of him. Why did they do this on a friday night ? Usually this kinda stuff goes down at dawn 5-6 am. People wake up to learn **** went down. Not witness. Why just block the bridge ? What's the importance of blockin that traffic ? Why were all the officials so calm ? Ofc they don't want to raise panic but even after the parliament was bombed still they were remained calm. Etc. this list goes on and on.

Results of this failure coup or so called coups are;

The country were already divided into two. People who are willing to do anything in the name of islam. even tho they are absolutely doin everything islam tells them not to. Just because erdoğan commands them to and since sometime now voters of him are seeing him as some sort of prophet. believing every word he says without even questioning. since lots of them are uneducated and raised like that.

and the other side who are still believin in secular system and wants to protect it. hell even the elections on this country usually ends up with %51-49.

and now islamist people are believin that they just prevent the coup from happening. that all the soldiers who did this are terrorists and threat to country. they were already hatin on people who doesn't share the same believe they had but couldn't do anything about it. (except for ramadan. every ramadan they are beating up people who eats/drinks/smokes on streets just because they can. they are "fasting" and acting against the rules of it at the same time. their ignorance level off the charts.) anyway but now they have more reason. if you are a minority; lgbt person, someone who is not actively participating in religous rituals such as prayers, fasting etc, or even have a different mindset from them they are willing to hurt you for it. and i'm not saying they are represent what islam is. on the contrary they are the furthest human beings that islam tells you to be. they are hatin on you in the name of islam but islam don't want you to hate one another.

this doesn't look like end up with a civil war but basically secular system basically just got destroyed last night. and today all the officials are on tv saying we just saved the democracy. they are not and were not following the rules of secular system since years now and they are now saying that they saved it and will try to protect it no matter what.

for the first time in forever in this country people who are extreme islamists (those who has long beard, has white weird hats, dressin long dresses) were on streets walking and praying out loud. because erdogan use the mosque's to make announcements all over the country to go out and protect the "democracy". they used religion as a tool for this to happen. there were call to prayer every 10 mins for 2-3 hours non stop. and the most ironic thing with that is those extremists are the ones who wants to destory the democray the most. they see females below them, they want to have multiple wifes etc all those stuff.

and now some hatin on soldiers and wants to kill them (some already have been killed, beated to death. there are some terrible footage out there.) . there were so many clueless soldiers participating in this. they were told they were just goin out to training. they are just 19-20 years old. not even ranked members of the military.

and some hatin on police and the goverment more. cause as i said this all leading up against secular system.

everyone blames one another and dividing more. and this is exactly what they want. to divide. they are gaining more power from these chaotic situations. like just an hour ago around 1500+ judge and public prosecutors are unseated.

no one can know if this was an organized houx or really attempted to do with an outnumbered military group. all for sure is that a group of powerful people want to make this country unsecular and be an islamic state. they are working towards this for years now. and now they are makin people bash each other while they just sit and watch. basic politics.

sorry for gramer mistakes. haven't slept in 20 hours.

I am really sorry that you have to deal with all of this. I really hope that things somehow get better in Turkey but it looks it won't happen anytime soon. Do whatever you need to flee country

J a y

If I was living southeast, I'd move north and west. Whatever the outcome, at least you're away from the Syrian border. I don't trust Erdogan and the effects his increased power of rulership may have on the war against ISIL. Even his supporters, they're coming across aggressive and hostile. It's a danger zone and has been for over a year now with terrorists inside Turkey. Shame the rest of the country will now suffer.

Terylee

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Originally posted by WiddLe

So lemme break it down whats goin on as a person who lived everything first hand last night. and basically livin for the last decade. There are only 2 possible scenarios for this.

1 This was all planned and staged. Officials knew about this and they did it to save the day and grow more power. (Since erdogan rulling the country for 14 years and he wants to continue till he dies basically.)

2 The last remaining deep members of fetullah gulen cult decided to do this even tho they were not organized enough.

Because a lot things doesn't add up. We had internet / tv connection all the way. No communication lost. Party leaders were all safe and sound and was making statements on TV. If they had control over air traffic -all those jets flying and bombing- why they didn't just interfere the erdogan's plane and make him land somewhere else to get control of him. Why did they do this on a friday night ? Usually this kinda stuff goes down at dawn 5-6 am. People wake up to learn **** went down. Not witness. Why just block the bridge ? What's the importance of blockin that traffic ? Why were all the officials so calm ? Ofc they don't want to raise panic but even after the parliament was bombed still they were remained calm. Etc. this list goes on and on.

Results of this failure coup or so called coups are;

The country were already divided into two. People who are willing to do anything in the name of islam. even tho they are absolutely doin everything islam tells them not to. Just because erdoğan commands them to and since sometime now voters of him are seeing him as some sort of prophet. believing every word he says without even questioning. since lots of them are uneducated and raised like that.

and the other side who are still believin in secular system and wants to protect it. hell even the elections on this country usually ends up with %51-49.

and now islamist people are believin that they just prevent the coup from happening. that all the soldiers who did this are terrorists and threat to country. they were already hatin on people who doesn't share the same believe they had but couldn't do anything about it. (except for ramadan. every ramadan they are beating up people who eats/drinks/smokes on streets just because they can. they are "fasting" and acting against the rules of it at the same time. their ignorance level off the charts.) anyway but now they have more reason. if you are a minority; lgbt person, someone who is not actively participating in religous rituals such as prayers, fasting etc, or even have a different mindset from them they are willing to hurt you for it. and i'm not saying they are represent what islam is. on the contrary they are the furthest human beings that islam tells you to be. they are hatin on you in the name of islam but islam don't want you to hate one another.

this doesn't look like end up with a civil war but basically secular system basically just got destroyed last night. and today all the officials are on tv saying we just saved the democracy. they are not and were not following the rules of secular system since years now and they are now saying that they saved it and will try to protect it no matter what.

for the first time in forever in this country people who are extreme islamists (those who has long beard, has white weird hats, dressin long dresses) were on streets walking and praying out loud. because erdogan use the mosque's to make announcements all over the country to go out and protect the "democracy". they used religion as a tool for this to happen. there were call to prayer every 10 mins for 2-3 hours non stop. and the most ironic thing with that is those extremists are the ones who wants to destory the democray the most. they see females below them, they want to have multiple wifes etc all those stuff.

and now some hatin on soldiers and wants to kill them (some already have been killed, beated to death. there are some terrible footage out there.) . there were so many clueless soldiers participating in this. they were told they were just goin out to training. they are just 19-20 years old. not even ranked members of the military.

and some hatin on police and the goverment more. cause as i said this all leading up against secular system.

everyone blames one another and dividing more. and this is exactly what they want. to divide. they are gaining more power from these chaotic situations. like just an hour ago around 1500+ judge and public prosecutors are unseated.

no one can know if this was an organized houx or really attempted to do with an outnumbered military group. all for sure is that a group of powerful people want to make this country unsecular and be an islamic state. they are working towards this for years now. and now they are makin people bash each other while they just sit and watch. basic politics.

sorry for gramer mistakes. haven't slept in 20 hours.

So sorry. I'm sorry for all the people who don't follow Erdogan like blind sheeps. Stay safe. German media is also speculating that everything was staged and I hate to say it but there are actually parallels between Erdogan and Hitler (I know that sounds wrong) and how he got Nazi Germany under his control. That thought scares me.

stevyy

Erdogen IS Hitler 2.0, he's left his Hitler-lght stage with his coup.

Since July 2016 Turkey is a fachist country.

WiddLe

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Originally posted by Chemist

I am really sorry that you have to deal with all of this. I really hope that things somehow get better in Turkey but it looks it won't happen anytime soon. Do whatever you need to flee country

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Originally posted by Terylee

So sorry. I'm sorry for all the people who don't follow Erdogan like blind sheeps. Stay safe. German media is also speculating that everything was staged and I hate to say it but there are actually parallels between Erdogan and Hitler (I know that sounds wrong) and how he got Nazi Germany under his control. That thought scares me.

thank you guys for the wishes. it means a lot. all i can do from now on is hope for the best. nothing i can do would stand after all of these since i'm representing minority.

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Originally posted by WiddLe

https://twitter.com/Homogenic__/stat...49849286848512

this is happening right now in ankara. "they saved the democracy and the secular system and now they are celebrating"

i seriously don't wanna live in this country anymore. cause i know they will come for whoever not sharing their ideology. and as an lgbt person i'm first in line to get killed...

i walk passed this exact spot today. i went out to meet with my friends and buy some coffee cause since 3-4 days now i can only sleep 2-3 hours and feelin like ****.
anyway that stuff that happens on the video still happening non stop. people are praying all together out loud as in some sort of cult formation. people are walkin up and down to streets with flags while shouting allahu akbar. (normally this is not a problem, they are saying a phrase from quran and carrying the countries flag. this is what any muslim people on this country can do with proud. but they are walkin with ignorance. they still want to kill and beat people. they are still angry and looking for a reason to fight. they are willing to die for erdoğan.)
and after seein this first hand i was so scared. i'm already emotionally so messed up lately because all of these and while i was watchin them from far some bearded guy walked and past me really close. i have no idea who he is what he represents what his mindset is but at that moment i was so scared i started to crying unintentionally. i dont wanna tag every one of them as bad but my mind is screaming for fear. cause i know what they capable of if they have a chance. it was 40 centigrade out there today and i was planning to wear mini shorts but i end up wearing long jeans. and im not even a feminine person at all. since today i have not accused of being gay because of the way i dress not even once. but today i feared that i might. with just wearing mini shorts.

still don't know how to process all of this.

KylieistBoi

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Originally posted by IVY

no.
it is the one like u that should stop talking . military coups r finished . know that , accept it and move on.
those who did the failed attempt must be punished coz if God forbidden they succeeded , they would pull back Turkey into the Ataturk version of poverty and retardation . No mercy for them , they r traitors regardless of what ideology the elected government comes from .
Military Riot is Forbidden coz the happening of military riots is a sign of reactionary act that will ultimately destroy any hope of civil state . Egypt is the most recent example of that. some Europe and US politicians need to understand that. i do not care about the ideology or hidden agenda of any party is having . Military coup is deadly . if the Turkish secular opposition wants to get red of Erdogan, then they need to work on their companions to convince the citizens .

And where exactly I supported or said I am supporting the coup? Dont put words into my mouth

I am just beyond shocked about your idiocy and ignorance.

IVY

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Originally posted by KylieistBoi

And where exactly I supported or said I am supporting the coup? Dont put words into my mouth

I am just beyond shocked about your idiocy and ignorance.

Good for ya

God bless Turkey . And shame on traitors who dared to do this bloody flop coup. I hope to see executions soon

SixWholeYears

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Originally posted by IVY

Good for ya

God bless Turkey . And shame on traitors who dared to do this bloody flop coup. I hope to see executions soon

I am against a coup too, since it would make everything even worse than how it is now (it IS possible to even go worse) BUT the way you word it all shows how ignorant you are, poor you.