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Poll: Rihanna = Most iconic artist since Britney?
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View Poll Results: Is Rihanna?
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Yes. She's ICON for a reason.
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49.10% |
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Sorry, Beyonce is.
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28.16% |
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Nope, Adele is.
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No. [Comment ha name] is.
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Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé
00 9,800,000 * SINGLE LADIES (PUT A RING ON IT)
x 00 6,100,000 * IFPI (from 12/2008 to 11/2009)
x 00 2,040,000 * US (since 12/2009; 3.3 million sold as of 11/2009)
x 000, 516,389 * South Korea (since 01/2010)
x 000, 432,136 * US (sales in 11/2008)
x 000, 400,000 * Europe (including 300K in the UK & at least 30K in France)
x 000, 165,000 * Australia (certified P<3> (210K) in 03/2010; sales (25K) from 12/09 to 02/10 added)
You're turn. 9 million copies worldwide. More iconic than ANY thing Rihanna has done.
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And Single Ladies was not a WW single. It was only officially released in a handful of countries.
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Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé
Beyonce is the most iconic artist of her generation. Everything she does is an EVENT, one being her new album Rihanna has never or will never have that type of impact. Beyonce ALWAYS place higher on Greatest WOMEN/Artists list than anyone in her generation. Single Ladies is more iconic than anything in Rihanna's career. Beyonce name = Greatness. The media, press, her peers, the younger generation call her The Queen, Queen B. She's held like royalty. She has more celebrities at her show than an award shows. Those celebrities stan OUT for her. + plus her brand is bigger than any artist in this gen. And I won't get into her performances. |
"oh! but it didn't go number 1 in cambodia!  "
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Originally posted by BadBitch
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Please, enlighten us to Rihanna's iconic performances that must have slipped everyone in this thread's minds...
Nothing she has done comes close to:
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Originally posted by swissman
What you've outlined thought is rather hard to prove. Considering that Beyonce just released a landmark album, currently selling more in a few weeks than most sell in a year, I think we can assume that people aren't thinking Pepsi when you say the name Beyoncé. What's the difference between hit songs and hit albums anyway? Albums contain 10+ songs. If an album is a hit, there is more music being consumed by that artist than a hit song and so if you don't agree that it is a better indication of popularity, you should at least be able to admit that it is of equal importance. Beyonce's last hit you ask? December 13th, 2013. And every week since.
Now onto the memorable songs part, I'm not going to comment on your opinion that Rihanna has a ton of memorable songs, but I will say that Single Ladies is extremely memorable. And that Crazy in Love peaked in the top ten of 14 non-English speaking countries, 11 of which were top 5 peaks. So please do some simple research before you start to post inaccuracies.
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Single Ladies went #1 in 2 countries (USA & Brasil) Crazy in Love went #1 in 3 countries (Ireland, UK, USA)
Hit albums don't leave much of a mark on pop culture anymore. Unless Beyonce manages to sell as much as 21, it won't be remembered.
And even 21 had hits, Rolling In The Deep, Someone Like You, they helped sell the album and keep her in everyone's mind throughout 2011.
I think it's quite obvious Drunk In Love and XO won't be as big as Someone Like You and Rolling In The Deep
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*looks at the poll*
*giggles hysterically* 
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Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
But nobody knows (or cares) Beyonce has grossed $150 million on tour.
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Maybe. Maybe not. But when local and national news reports that Beyonce tickets sell out in seconds it sends a message. It adds to her reputation as a must see performer and ensures that people will want still want to see her even when she's "irrelevant" by mainstream standards.
When they report that Rihanna was 2 hours late and drooling on herself, that sends a message.
Think about what Beyonce's accomplished with her lowest selling album and think about what Rihanna accomplished with her lowest selling album and tell me who's the bigger icon.
One of these careers leads to still being able to sell out large venues in 15 years. The other one leads to a seat on the American Idol judges' panel.
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nnn Not Gags and her flash in the pan career being more iconic than the Black Madonna.
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Originally posted by BadBitch
Beyonce above everyone she's a legend.
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Exactly. Bey is honestly a legend now and isn't even in the same discussion as Rih, Gaga, Katy, and co. And she debuted before Britney, so an argument for her isn't even valid.
You hoes just love to pit them against each other for NO reason. 
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Originally posted by Vertigo Stick
Success is not iconic. Memorability is. There are a lot of underperforming or poorly received music, videos, movies, etc that later become iconic, 10 years from now, what will people think of WFL?
I think people have to understand that being successful is not iconic. There are songs that reached #1 and have earned awards that no one really remembers today.
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EXACTLY 
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Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
And Rihanna is a perfect mix of both hits and image. Beyonce is more of a brand than anything and idk about Gaga really.
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Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé
Beyonce is the most iconic artist of her generation. Everything she does is an EVENT, one being her new album Rihanna has never or will never have that type of impact. Beyonce ALWAYS place higher on Greatest WOMEN/Artists list than anyone in her generation. Single Ladies is more iconic than anything in Rihanna's career. Beyonce name = Greatness. The media, press, her peers, the younger generation call her The Queen, Queen B. She's held like royalty. She has more celebrities at her show than an award shows. Those celebrities stan OUT for her. + plus her brand is bigger than any artist in this gen. And I won't get into her performances. |
All that needed to be said 
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Originally posted by RihannasVeryOwn
Single Ladies went #1 in 2 countries (USA & Brasil) Crazy in Love went #1 in 3 countries (Ireland, UK, USA)
Hit albums don't leave much of a mark on pop culture anymore. Unless Beyonce manages to sell as much as 21, it won't be remembered.
And even 21 had hits, Rolling In The Deep, Someone Like You, they helped sell the album and keep her in everyone's mind throughout 2011.
I think it's quite obvious Drunk In Love and XO won't be as big as Someone Like You and Rolling In The Deep
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This is the logic you are presenting to me:
If a song is in the top five or is #2, then it is not a hit. A hit can only be a #1 song.
If your album does not sell 30 million copies, it will not be remembered.
Do those really make sense? And anyway, yes, hit songs keep an album in people's minds. This era is like 4 weeks old though. You have no idea what Beyonce has in store, just like you had no idea an album was coming on December 12th.
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Originally posted by QueenBeyoncé
Beyonce is the most iconic artist of her generation. Everything she does is an EVENT, one being her new album Rihanna has never or will never have that type of impact. Beyonce ALWAYS place higher on Greatest WOMEN/Artists list than anyone in her generation. Single Ladies is more iconic than anything in Rihanna's career. Beyonce name = Greatness. The media, press, her peers, the younger generation call her The Queen, Queen B. She's held like royalty. She has more celebrities at her show than an award shows. Those celebrities stan OUT for her. + plus her brand is bigger than any artist in this gen. And I won't get into her performances. |
Well damn. Nothing else needs to be said.
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Originally posted by Rihhyonce
nnn Not Gags and her flash in the pan career being more iconic than the Black Madonna.
Exactly. Bey is honestly a legend now and isn't even in the same discussion as Rih, Gaga, Katy, and co. And she debuted before Britney, so an argument for her isn't even valid.
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Agreed.
Beyonce has left iconic status and moved onto legendary status by definition.
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Originally posted by Rihhyonce
nnn Not Gags and her flash in the pan career being more iconic than the Black Madonna.
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There's only one black Madonna:
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Originally posted by Rusty
Please, enlighten us to Rihanna's iconic performances that must have slipped everyone in this thread's minds...
Nothing she has done comes close to:
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None of the general public remember those performances. I can hardly even remember the second one, never mind the GP 
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None of the general public remember those performances. I can hardly even remember the second one, never mind the GP |
The point of the quoted comment still stands though.
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Originally posted by Samuel
None of the general public remember those performances. I can hardly even remember the second one, never mind the GP |
Lady Gaga going to the Grammys in an egg isn't remembered by the GP? Perhaps in Zimbabwe, but I'm fairly sure the majority of people who follow music in a general sense still know about this.
EDIT: In terms of being an icon, realistically from the current pop girls:
Beyonce > Gaga > Britney >>>>> Rihanna.
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Gaga was, but now Rihanna took over, is very arguable between this 2, Gaga has Bad Romance and Rihanna has Umbrella and WFL so I think Rihanna is winning as now
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No. Miley is.
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Honey, she is an icon. period....
let's look at the facts...
SHE DOES NOT WRITE HER MUSIC(writinng credits for writing a word is not her writing her music #navy fans)
SHE IS THE DEFINITION OF A LABEL PUPPET, WHO IS COMPLETELY MANIPULATED AND CONTROLLED BY INDUSTRY TRENDS AND HER LABELS PROFESSIONAL DECISIONS REGARDING HER MUSIC AND CAREER
SHE CAN BARELY SING HER OWN SONGS(or should i say songs written for her to be hits..)
her entire library of music consists of music MADE by CAMPS OF WRITERS AND PRO PRODUCERS to make sure they are chart toppers, despite the music having any integrity
She has LEACHED OFF ANY SUCCESSFUL ERA FROM ANY ARTIST, MIMICKING THEIR CHARACTERISTICS to remain relevant....
DEF JAM called her the apple ipod of pop music, in which they make sure they re invent.. just like they would re release a new machine for the audience to buy every year
= all equate to an icon bitch
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