[Яeo.]

Originally posted by fanoftalent

Someone answer me: What did my fave, P!nk do, to advance the society, so that she deserves the millions she's making, while some scientists who have made life-changing discoveries have died in poverty?

Are you for real? You don't have to "do" something in order to earn millions. Don't undervalue Entertainment, its a huge part of every one of our lives. Can you imagine living without music? Guessed so. P!nk obviously is a good artist which a lot of people love - and she's earning her money based on that. People buy her brand because they enjoy it. You know, probably one of those scientists or doctors or firefighters or teachers listen to P!nk on their free time to relax. If people buy a P!nk album / single, it's because they enjoy listening to her. If they attend to her tour, its because they enjoy watching her perform.

[Tropez]

Originally posted by FatShady

Anyone can be a doctor but there can only be one Britney Spears.

Not true. You have to actually be dedicated, smart, have a set of skills that are taught in life and you're born with. Not everyone can be a doctor. If that were the case, I feel sorry for the world we live in.

[FunkyDinevo]

Originally posted by yuminari.

But we're not going in circles, you just have a very stubborn stance on your opinion and you aren't looking at it objectively

It doesn't matter whether something is more "useful" because that's not how it works. It's not "being a conformist", it's accepting reality. To change that, all of society would need to change and that's just not feasible, at least not without a LOT of time.

Someone mentioned that entertainers reach more people, this is a key factor in why they get paid more. Should a teacher that educates 150 students really make more money than a pop star who reaches 1 million people? The schools don't even get enough revenue to pay a teacher as much as they deserve.

In an ideal world, yes, certain professions should make more, but this is Earth and we have to come back to reality here.

Originally posted by Doc

How are they overpaid when their salaries are a direct percentage of what their products and services earn?
Are you saying they charge too much for their singles, albums, and tours?
You're not making any sense. Take an economics class, and then try again.

All of this.

/theend

[BlazingLovatic]

Originally posted by uhoh-ohno

It's not about being "smart." It's about being white or white enough and having sponsors shower you with opportunities for profit that you wouldn't otherwise have if you were perceived as a person of color. There are black women with sex tapes (Nicole Narrain, Karinne Steffans ) that don't have producers and sponsors knocking down their doors giving them reality shows and endorsements.

The Kardashians aren't white, they're Armenian. They're most definitely not stupid either! What other group of non-famous people could build an empire based off of one sex tape? None. It has nothing to do with 'how white they are' because many other people who are 'just as white' as they are would not be able to do what they did with just one sex tape.

[MikeFenty]

Originally posted by uhoh-ohno

Yes, we'll just chalk up the financial success of the Kim K's and Paris Hiltons and Farrah Abraham's of the world to business savvy and leave race out of it because it makes you uncomfortable.

Yes it make me uncomfortable that my fellow black people always have to pull out the race card when sometimes unnecessary.

[Retro]

Originally posted by fanoftalent

I'm even gonna come for my fave: What did P!nk do to advance our society?

Most pop stars have done little or nothing for society but entertain us. But the thing is, that's what they're selling to you - like silver, gold, oil, and diamonds, entertainment is a commodity to be bought and sold. What have some company executives done to advance society? Some do nothing at all in that regard and it's the same concept here. Pop stars work hard for what they earn - there's a lot of business behind the seemingly simple Top 40 radio singles and television performances that we see. There's negotiations, there's a label to deal with, partnerships to make, and most importantly tours to go on, which are what makes them the most money and what makes them deserve that money. Lady Gaga, just for the sake of example, ground her pelvis up to the point where it cracked because of how hard she was going at those tours to provide a service to her paying customers. She and other stars deserve what they make because they're the ones willing to provide a service every night for which there is immense demand. Without Gaga, P!nk, Katy, or Rihanna themselves, the money wouldn't flow in as strongly - the ARE the thing that people are buying. If people bought just music then probably nobody actually would make hundreds of millions of dollars from making music, but consumers pay for the person, for that person's time, energy, and body. They pay to see what that star represents, to be provided with a role model or with something to respect, even revere. Yes, there are people with much better products and services to offer society, but society itself determines which products and services are worthy of major profit, so it's difficult to argue that any one person earns too much when in this case it's society itself that determines those very earnings.

IDK if that big ass paragraph makes sense or has been said already but I felt like contributing my thoughts.

[Яeo.]

Kim K isn't the rule, she's the exception. Her family brand is the result of our flawed society.

[Idontcareaboutyou]

There is only three directions the money can go :
-The artist/entertainer.
-Their producers, labels, etc.
-The state.

I'd rather more money went to the artist than to people behind who sometimes exploit them (think Lou Pearlman). Then there's the money the state gets via taxes and it's a very interesting political question : which percentage of their money should artists pay in taxes ? That's the real question, because their earnings depend on the supply and demand law and you're not going to change that.

[Tropez]

Originally posted by Яeo.

Are you for real? You don't have to "do" something in order to earn millions. Don't undervalue Entertainment, its a huge part of every one of our lives. Can you imagine living without music? Guessed so. P!nk obviously is a good artist which a lot of people love - and she's earning her money based on that. People buy her brand because they enjoy it. You know, probably one of those scientists or doctors or firefighters or teachers listen to P!nk on their free time to relax. If people buy a P!nk album / single, it's because they enjoy listening to her. If they attend to her tour, its because they enjoy watching her perform.

I think what he means is, why do celebrities earn more than other professions that actually have a bigger impact on society? Like its true we all need entertainment, but we all need a doctor, we all need a teacher, we all need police and firefighters. Our society won't function without them. But our society can function if celebrities earned the same as a firefighter.

So tell me. Can you imagine living without a doctor or engineer?

[fanoftalent]

Originally posted by yuminari.

But we're not going in circles, you just have a very stubborn stance on your opinion and you aren't looking at it objectively

It doesn't matter whether something is more "useful" because that's not how it works. It's not "being a conformist", it's accepting reality. To change that, all of society would need to change and that's just not feasible, at least not without a LOT of time.

Someone mentioned that entertainers reach more people, this is a key factor in why they get paid more. Should a teacher that educates 150 students really make more money than a pop star who reaches 1 million people? The schools don't even get enough revenue to pay a teacher as much as they deserve.

In an ideal world, yes, certain professions should make more, but this is Earth and we have to come back to reality here.

I know where we live and I don't have any delusions that things will change quickly. That's why emphasized unfairness and the fact that I'm venting.

"They reach more people" argument is fine, but then again, we allow them to. That teacher which educates 150 children can potentially make a bigger impact on the society by being a good educator, then those celebs that reach millions. I'd argue that some of them contribute to the de-evolution of our society.

[Bie]

Originally posted by FatShady

Anyone can be a doctor but there can only be one Britney Spears.

Thissss

[Tropez]

Originally posted by BlazingLovatic

The Kardashians aren't white, they're Armenian. They're most definitely not stupid either! What other group of non-famous people could build an empire based off of one sex tape? None. It has nothing to do with 'how white they are' because many other people who are 'just as white' as they are would not be able to do what they did with just one sex tape.

White is a race, Armenian is an ethnicity. White isn't exclusive to Europe. So they are white.

[Mr.Marvelous]

Originally posted by SebaMonster

If the scientist comes up with the cure ALONE (which will never happen), they'll get a HUGE amount of money.

Right? That person would make BILLIONS.

[Retro]

Originally posted by FatShady

Anyone can be a doctor but there can only be one Britney Spears.

Not you saying in one line what it took me a full paragraph to grasp.

[Яeo.]

Originally posted by CoolestPerson12

I think what he means is, why do celebrities earn more than other professions that actually have a bigger impact on society? Like its true we all need entertainment, but we all need a doctor, we all need a teacher, we all need police and firefighters. Our society won't function without them. But our society can function if celebrities earned the same as a firefighter.

So tell me. Can you imagine living without a doctor or engineer?

Do you really think doctors or engineers are poor? If they find a job they're settled for life and they are far above average. Whether they get paid by the Government or privately, it all depends on the situation. If those doctors come up with an innovative cure or medicine discovery breakout, I assure you they will earn a huge amount of money for that. Yes, as much as Pop star earns in a year if not even more. (For example, Instagram was sold for 1 BILLION to Facebook. And yet, the Instagram creators are far from being Pop stars.)

[fanoftalent]

Originally posted by Doc

How are they overpaid when their salaries are a direct percentage of what their products and services earn?
Are you saying they charge too much for their singles, albums, and tours?
You're not making any sense. Take an economics class, and then try again.

I'm saying we allow them to charge as much. And they gladly do obviously.

[phreshprince]

I agree!! Let's have an example: Britney Spears. She will probably complain in the next few months of wanting time off however Americans work 40 hours a week + to make ends meet while she will be working 2-4 hours a day every other day and complain while she's making MILLIONS. I'm not trying to throw Britney under the bus, but I'm just saying it's annoying. Start a funding for college students, do SOMETHING

[P!nkism]

Originally posted by CoolestPerson12

I think what he means is, why do celebrities earn more than other professions that actually have a bigger impact on society? Like its true we all need entertainment, but we all need a doctor, we all need a teacher, we all need police and firefighters. Our society won't function without them. But our society can function if celebrities earned the same as a firefighter.

So tell me. Can you imagine living without a doctor or engineer?

let me put it this way.
Coz if they earned money like firefighters they wouldn't really be able to release albums, prepare shows, perform and go to tour around the world.
So i am sure you wanna see you fave in tour, and you would pay the ful price to see her.
That price goes to everyone involved in the tour: Managers, designers, technitians, assistants, cooks, choreographers, concerts etc etc.
And let's not act like artists like P!nk, or Bey or Madonna and many others don't WORK their asses off for their fans.
They work to keep in shape, to be able to sing, to be able to perform, to dance, to do acrobatics, to give positive energy etc etc.

[Doc]

Originally posted by FatShady

Anyone can be a doctor but there can only be one Britney Spears.

You might be joking a bit, but this is so true.

There are thousands upon thousands of doctors, teachers, scientists in the country. There's only a handful of popstars making significant amounts of money. Thousands of doctors and teachers cannot possibly each get paid the same amount as a few celebrities do. Where do you think that money comes from, thin air?

Doctors provide their services to a couple of patients every week. Teachers provide their services through the government (hence the lowered salary) to about 150 kids a week. Popstars provide their services to millions. Do you not see the discrepancy?

Stop talking about who is doing what for the betterment of society. That's 100% irrelevant to economics.

Originally posted by fanoftalent

I'm saying we allow them to charge as much. And they gladly do obviously.

Like I said, even if Bey charged 10 cents for her album, she still would have made $100,000 in a couple of days.

[MikeFenty]

Originally posted by phreshprince

I agree!! Let's have an example: Britney Spears. She will probably complain in the next few months of wanting time off however Americans work 40 hours a week + to make ends meet while she will be working 2-4 hours a day every other day and complain while she's making MILLIONS. I'm not trying to throw Britney under the bus, but I'm just saying it's annoying. Start a funding for college students, do SOMETHING

Being a performer isn't easy...AT ALL. There are very few jobs that are as demanding as being a performers in the "real world"