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Discussion: Why Are Roman Reloaded's Opening US Sales Lackluster?
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Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker
Rihanna and Katy's sales are considered low because of how popular they are and how they never have a hard time scoring #1 after #1. Being able to score a #1 with every new single and still not being able to push albums are an exponential rate is why people consider their sales a flop.
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But.They're(Gaga,Katy,Rihanna).Just.Behind ADELE, who else they need to top? 
Oh yeah nobody should release singles.  They score big hits so what? That's awesome they have great album + single sales. You do know most people buy singles right? 
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Originally posted by Benzene
There's nothing wrong with the comparison. After all, if she's relying on radio hits for big sales, doesn't that mean she's "selling like a popstar?"  |
Regardless TD's album sales were still great as well LOUD, TTT will reach 3m WW so no biggie there come on now.
I don't get it why don't you bring singles' success to this? They're part of the era having great album + single sales/success is awesome and Katy & Rihanna have both.
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Urban singles sell albums better than pop singles I think, and Nicki hasn't had an urban hit from this album yet.
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cuz she got banned from the hood
didnt you know they buy sooo many albums at retail price
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Member Since: 8/10/2010
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Originally posted by Beatz
But.They're(Gaga,Katy,Rihanna).Just.Behind ADELE, who else they need to top?
Oh yeah nobody should release singles. They score big hits so what? That's awesome they have great album + single sales. You do know most people buy singles right? |
Not really. A lot of people still buy albums, as evident with Adele and other AC/rap/rock artists.
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Originally posted by RainMan
cuz she got banned from the hood
didnt you know they buy sooo many albums at retail price |
Look at her last album, look at many major rap artists. Like someone mentioned, J.Cole did similar numbers with no major hit and less promotion.
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Originally posted by Monster
Not really. A lot of people still buy albums, as evident with Adele and other AC/rap/rock artists.
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Yep. Sigh No More sold the same as Teenage Dream with a fraction of the exposure.
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Member Since: 11/30/2011
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Lil Wayne pulled 946,000+ 1st week and Drake pulled 631,000 1st week. These are numbers you get when the hood doesn't ban you
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Member Since: 12/10/2011
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Originally posted by Division
She didn't become the face of Pepsi by singing songs for black/BET audiences.
She cooned it, and earned herself $10M from just one ad campaign.
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But she got to where she is (or is it was?) because of the black/BET audiences so SIT. Singing for Pepsi, gurl you consider that an accomplishment?
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Member Since: 10/16/2010
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Originally posted by collin
Yeah, she must really hate pushing 200k albums and having half of her album in the top 100 on iTunes.
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Talk about defensive. You must be reading invisible words that I never typed. Calm down and have a seat.
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Tbh, these sales aren't bad, they're just extremely underwhelming. Everybody was expecting 300k, 400k, even 500k, but we get 200k. I think it had a lot to do with how the general public viewed her, along with the pre-release tactics, sucj as the Grammy's performance and the video for Stupid Hoe. It'll probably sell well in the long run, though:
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“Hell no! This album is gonna sell so much more than Pink Friday. Ask me this question two years from today, Clue. With me, I’m never about first week and all that. I like to look at it for the long haul. I’ma travel, I’ma meet my beautiful babies, my Barbz everywhere, and this is my first time I’m gonna get to do a world tour, so the album is gonna do its thang.”
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Nicki knows the true tea. 
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Originally posted by Monster
Look at her last album, look at many major rap artists. Like someone mentioned, J.Cole did similar numbers with no major hit and less promotion. |
J Cole and Lil wayne are local .. Nicki is worldwide
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Originally posted by Monster
Not really. A lot of people still buy albums, as evident with Adele and other AC/rap/rock artists.
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Rank - Sales - TITLE - Artist
01 - 7,649,000 - 21 - Adele
02 - 4,205,000 - RECOVERY - Eminem
03 - 4,015,000 - SPEAK NOW - Taylor Swift
04 - 3,829,000 - NEED YOU NOW - Lady Antebellum
05 - 3,101,000 - MY WORLD 2.0 - Justin Bieber
06 - 2,456,000 - CHRISTMAS - Michael Buble
07 - 2,404,000 - MY KINDA PARTY - Jason Aldean
08 - 2,170,000 - BORN THIS WAY - Lady GaGa
09 - 2,158,000 - SIGH NO MORE - Mumford & Sons
10 - 2,085,000 - THE GIFT - Susan Boyle
11 - 2,075,000 - TEENAGE DREAM - Katy Perry
12 - 2,025,000 - THA CARTER IV - Lil Wayne
13 - 2,024,000 - THE FAME - Lady GaGa
14 - 1,781,000 - PINK FRIDAY - Nicki Minaj
15 - 1,620,000 - LOUD - Rihanna
16 - 1,561,000 - THANK ME LATER - Drake
17 - 1,550,000 - DOO-WOPS & HOOLIGANS - Bruno Mars
18 - 1,495,000 - TAKE CARE - Drake
19 - 1,419,000 - YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE - Zac Brown Band
20 - 1,402,000 - THE FOUNDATION - Zac Brown Band
21 - 1,381,000 - THE E.N.D. (THE ENERGY NEVER DIES) - Black Eyed Peas
22 - 1,365,000 - OWN THE NIGHT - Lady Antebellum
23 - 1,365,000 - ANIMAL - Ke$ha
24 - 1,353,000 - SOLDIER OF LOVE - Sade
25 - 1,349,000 - WATCH THE THRONE - Jay-Z & Kanye West
26 - 1,271,000 - RAYMOND V RAYMOND - Usher
27 - 1,256,000 - MY BEAUTIFUL DARK TWISTED FANTASY - Kanye West
28 - 1,252,000 - UNDER THE MISTLETOE - Justin Bieber
29 - 1,242,000 - MY WORLD (EP) - Justin Bieber
30 - 1,196,000 - 19 - Adele
31 - 1,181,000 - THE BAND PERRY - Band Perry
32 - 1,178,000 - MYLO XYLOTO - Coldplay
33 - 1,178,000 - FEARLESS - Taylor Swift
34 - 1,145,000 - 4 - Beyonce
35 - 1,136,000 - REVOLUTION - Miranda Lambert
36 - 1,125,000 - O HOLY NIGHT - Jackie Evancho
37 - 1,118,000 - THE INCREDIBLE MACHINE - Sugarland
38 - 1,063,000 - NOTHING LIKE THIS - Rascal Flatts
39 - 1,052,000 - HEMINGWAY'S WHISKEY - Kenny Chesney
40 - 1,047,000 - BORN FREE - Kid Rock
41 - 1,034,000 - GLEE: THE MUSIC: THE CHRISTMAS ALBUM - Soundtrack
42 - 1,000,000 - HANDS ALL OVER - Maroon 5
Yeah that's why only 42 albums have reached the platinum mark out of thousands released this decade so far. 
Please are you trying to say albums are selling like hot cakes? that's not true at all, it's nonsense. Single sales trumps album sales by a very wide margin.
Altough It's obviously true rap/country/alternative fans are more dedicated that pop fanbases which are fickle.
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You guys are the ones turning the phrase into something bad. She's selling like popstars. She wanted to be a popstar. No one said it was a bad thing. Seeing that 99% of this website stans for popstars, why would we drag ourselves like that?
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Member Since: 12/10/2011
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Originally posted by EmaciatedHooker
I don't think it's just the pop music that is alienating her urban audience, it's everything she's doing. From the controversy, to the outfits, to the music. The urban audience is very clear about what they like. You don't mess the urban audience's religion like Nicki did, and the "crazy ****" doesn't fly with them.
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This is so true, it all ties into black people being more religious than most. After Nicki's Grammy performance everyone was almost certain she "worshiped the devil" and that kinda mess does. not. fly. with urban audiences. Nicki better rebuke the evil spirit that has engulfed her being!
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Member Since: 8/16/2010
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Originally posted by Beatz
Rank - Sales - TITLE - Artist
01 - 7,649,000 - 21 - Adele
02 - 4,205,000 - RECOVERY - Eminem
03 - 4,015,000 - SPEAK NOW - Taylor Swift
04 - 3,829,000 - NEED YOU NOW - Lady Antebellum
05 - 3,101,000 - MY WORLD 2.0 - Justin Bieber
06 - 2,456,000 - CHRISTMAS - Michael Buble
07 - 2,404,000 - MY KINDA PARTY - Jason Aldean
08 - 2,170,000 - BORN THIS WAY - Lady GaGa
09 - 2,158,000 - SIGH NO MORE - Mumford & Sons
10 - 2,085,000 - THE GIFT - Susan Boyle
11 - 2,075,000 - TEENAGE DREAM - Katy Perry
12 - 2,025,000 - THA CARTER IV - Lil Wayne
13 - 2,024,000 - THE FAME - Lady GaGa
14 - 1,781,000 - PINK FRIDAY - Nicki Minaj
15 - 1,620,000 - LOUD - Rihanna
16 - 1,561,000 - THANK ME LATER - Drake
17 - 1,550,000 - DOO-WOPS & HOOLIGANS - Bruno Mars
18 - 1,495,000 - TAKE CARE - Drake
19 - 1,419,000 - YOU GET WHAT YOU GIVE - Zac Brown Band
20 - 1,402,000 - THE FOUNDATION - Zac Brown Band
21 - 1,381,000 - THE E.N.D. (THE ENERGY NEVER DIES) - Black Eyed Peas
22 - 1,365,000 - OWN THE NIGHT - Lady Antebellum
23 - 1,365,000 - ANIMAL - Ke$ha
24 - 1,353,000 - SOLDIER OF LOVE - Sade
25 - 1,349,000 - WATCH THE THRONE - Jay-Z & Kanye West
26 - 1,271,000 - RAYMOND V RAYMOND - Usher
27 - 1,256,000 - MY BEAUTIFUL DARK TWISTED FANTASY - Kanye West
28 - 1,252,000 - UNDER THE MISTLETOE - Justin Bieber
29 - 1,242,000 - MY WORLD (EP) - Justin Bieber
30 - 1,196,000 - 19 - Adele
31 - 1,181,000 - THE BAND PERRY - Band Perry
32 - 1,178,000 - MYLO XYLOTO - Coldplay
33 - 1,178,000 - FEARLESS - Taylor Swift
34 - 1,145,000 - 4 - Beyonce
35 - 1,136,000 - REVOLUTION - Miranda Lambert
36 - 1,125,000 - O HOLY NIGHT - Jackie Evancho
37 - 1,118,000 - THE INCREDIBLE MACHINE - Sugarland
38 - 1,063,000 - NOTHING LIKE THIS - Rascal Flatts
39 - 1,052,000 - HEMINGWAY'S WHISKEY - Kenny Chesney
40 - 1,047,000 - BORN FREE - Kid Rock
41 - 1,034,000 - GLEE: THE MUSIC: THE CHRISTMAS ALBUM - Soundtrack
42 - 1,000,000 - HANDS ALL OVER - Maroon 5
Yeah that's why only 42 albums have reached the platinum mark out of thousands released this decade so far.
Please are you trying to dispute Albums are selling like hot cakes, that's not true at all, single sales trumps album sales by a very wide margin. |
Wasn't the original point that by alienating her urban base her album sales will be like those of a popstar - that is, not bad, but not particularly impressive relative to non-pop acts due to the disproportionate amount of exposure they receive?
There are only two pop albums in the top 10, so I'm not sure what the point of contention is. 
No doubt her singles sales will be better, but the thread is asking about her album sales.
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Member Since: 12/10/2011
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Originally posted by Guy
You guys are the ones turning the phrase into something bad. She's selling like popstars. She wanted to be a popstar. No one said it was a bad thing. Seeing that 99% of this website stans for popstars, why would we drag ourselves like that?
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If selling like a pop star means 2M+ then only 3/10 of my faves albums have "sold like a pop star", I'm not dragging myself 
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Member Since: 3/13/2011
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Originally posted by Monster
How would you figure this?  |
She's on-track to shift around 300,000 copies at full RRP. Then it's sale time!
PF:RR will be the most high-profile album on HMV's next 3-for-£10 deal in autumn. The first album sold 95,000 copies in last year's 3-for-£10 deal, so expect PF:RR to be huge.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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All you really need to do is compare her numbers to her Young Money label-mates, to put things in perspective.
Drake debuted with over 600,000. Lil Wayne debuted with close to 1 million.
She's had more than double the amount of hits + exposure that they both had when they released. To say 200k is underwhelming, is def an understatement., especially for a Hip Hop album by a star of her magnitude.
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Originally posted by Damien M
All you really need to do is compare her numbers to her Young Money label-mates.
Drake debuted with over 600,000. Lil Wayne debuted with close to 1 million.
She's had more than double the amount of hits + exposure that they both had when they released. To say 200k is underwhelming, is def an understatement.
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It's not even just that. Had this been her debut album, okay, whatever. But that she dropped so much from Pink Friday despite being WAY more famous than ever before is an ominous sign.
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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Originally posted by Benzene
It's not even just that. Had this been her debut album, okay, whatever. But that she dropped so much from Pink Friday despite being WAY more famous than ever before is an ominous sign.
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SO true.
She's had two Top 10 Pop hits (Turn Me On & Starships), featured on two big Urban hits (Make Me Proud & Dance A$$), a widely-talked about Grammy performance, a Superbowl appearance, high profile promo.etc.
I remember when PF dropped she hadn't even gotten a Top 10 hit yet.
Plus the music is obviously terrible. I mean, if you want to go Pop, at least give us something quality ala 808s & Heartbreaks, not ... that.
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