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Chart Listings: HDD: '1989' 1.316M
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Originally posted by revel8
Taylor would have broken the actual record (not Britney's) of N'Sync 2.4 million opening week if record market had not shrunk since.
Britney only got just over half the opening week of the biggest selling album of 2000, which was No Strings Attached. So her record is not even a record. It is just under 60% of the actual record. Even Backstreet Boys had an album with a bigger opening week than Britney in 2000. As did Eminem. Why do Britney stans brag so much about coming fourth in 2000? Do you think Eric Church fans are gonna brag about getting the 4rd highest opening week in 2014 in 14 years from now?
In contrast Taylor is maybe selling 1-1.2 million which is gonna be two times the next biggest opening act this year, which will be 1D. Taylor dominates the sales this year in a way that Britney never did in 2000.
Britney came 4 th 14 years ago. Well done to her. Now let us discuss Taylor who will have the highest opening this year. Not the 4th. The 1st. Compare Britney's 4th place achievements with Eric Church's 4th place achievements. Compare Taylor's 1st place achievements with other artists who also had the highest opening numbers. If we are looking at 2000 then we look at N'Sync not the distant 4th place finisher.
This week may finish with Taylor emulating N'Sync, Backstreet Boys and Eminem as being the only acts with 2 out of the Top 10 opening weeks of all time in the US. Taylor needs 1989 to outsell Born This Way's 1.1 million to achieve this feat.
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leeets not get ahead of ourselves here. 
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Originally posted by like2throw
leeets not get ahead of ourselves here. |
Why not? The market is down 60%. I'm not saying she 'would' have beat N*Sync but it is certainly a possibility.
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Each 1 million+ opening Taylor has had is far more impressive than Britney's opening due to the digital age and declining sales. The fact that she's had three puts her in a league Britney could have only hoped to reach.
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Originally posted by Pristine
Why not? The market is down 60%. I'm not saying she 'would' have beat N*Sync but it is certainly a possibility.
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only 60%
i thought it dropped 20-30% in the last 2 years alone
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Originally posted by Chivas
Each 1 million+ opening Taylor has had is far more impressive than Britney's opening due to the digital age and declining sales. The fact that she's had three puts her in a league Britney could have only hoped to reach.
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Having 3 back-to-back million opening weeks is amazing and no other act has done it ever.Yeah Taylor is in a league of her own based on that.
But we can't discredit Britney's WW impact when she first appeared,her diamond albums,her record sales etc.
Taylor is HUGE in the US right now but Britney was HUGE everywhere.
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Member Since: 2/9/2008
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Originally posted by revel8
Taylor would have broken the actual record (not Britney's) of N'Sync 2.4 million opening week if record market had not shrunk since.
Britney only got just over half the opening week of the biggest selling album of 2000, which was No Strings Attached. So her record is not even a record. It is just under 60% of the actual record. Even Backstreet Boys had an album with a bigger opening week than Britney in 2000. As did Eminem. Why do Britney stans brag so much about coming fourth in 2000? Do you think Eric Church fans are gonna brag about getting the 4rd highest opening week in 2014 in 14 years from now?
In contrast Taylor is maybe selling 1-1.2 million which is gonna be two times the next biggest opening act this year, which will be 1D. Taylor dominates the sales this year in a way that Britney never did in 2000.
Britney came 4 th 14 years ago. Well done to her. Now let us discuss Taylor who will have the highest opening this year. Not the 4th. The 1st. Compare Britney's 4th place achievements with Eric Church's 4th place achievements. Compare Taylor's 1st place achievements with other artists who also had the highest opening numbers. If we are looking at 2000 then we look at N'Sync not the distant 4th place finisher.
This week may finish with Taylor emulating N'Sync, Backstreet Boys and Eminem as being the only acts with 2 out of the Top 10 opening weeks of all time in the US. Taylor needs 1989 to outsell Born This Way's 1.1 million to achieve this feat.
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This post is ridiculous and self-defeating when you get to the last sentence and realize that Britney is also one of the top ten debuts OF ALL TIME. It just so happens that 2000 was a crowded year for historic debuts. Don't try to downplay the biggest female first week of all time. It's obvious Taylor's sales are more impressive for the time, but Britney's were amazing too.
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Originally posted by popboi__
Having 3 back-to-back million opening weeks is amazing and no other act has done it ever.Yeah Taylor is in a league of her own based on that.
But we can't discredit Britney's WW impact when she first appeared,her diamond albums,her record sales etc.
Taylor is HUGE in the US right now but Britney was HUGE everywhere.
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THIS.
Taylor is starting to become massive everywhere, but it took her 5 albums to get there.
People tend to forget the markets outside the U.S., but Britney was massive WORLDWIDE starting with her first album.
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That so-called Brit record.... Is it really record though when its not actually the highest selling week? And we are all yelling for gender equality all the damn time. 
Taylor doing her own record is much more impressive. Scoring a feat that has actually never been done before.
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Originally posted by Rico Shameless v2
It's the highest first-week sales for a female album, all-time.  You really think all this mania has been about her coming fourth? How dense can one be? Like a Google search or common sense as to why Britney is even in the discussion would've saved you from this embarrassing thesis. Hopefully you're like 11 years old, which in that case I'll give a pass. But brush up, babe. |
It was not an embarrassing thesis. I was just letting you know the facts.
Britney was the 4th highest opening act one year, whoopy doo. Again this was clearly simply a product of the market at the time. Who cares that it was the highest female act? She still came 4th. Why celebrate coming 4th?
Taylor is the dominant American artist. She is the most dominant woman in the American music scene since Madonna in the 1980s and arguably bigger because there is no male Michael Jackson equivalent these days. Also I am not 11 years old. I actually remember when Thriller came out, so maybe my perspective is greater than yours. What about you?
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This is more than amazing 
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Originally posted by eli's_rhythm
This post is ridiculous and self-defeating when you get to the last sentence and realize that Britney is also one of the top ten debuts OF ALL TIME. It just so happens that 2000 was a crowded year for historic debuts. Don't try to downplay the biggest female first week of all time. It's obvious Taylor's sales are more impressive for the time, but Britney's were amazing too.
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Originally posted by letscauseascene1
THIS.
Taylor is starting to become massive everywhere, but it took her 5 albums to get there.
People tend to forget the markets outside the U.S., but Britney was massive WORLDWIDE starting with her first album.
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Originally posted by muddysquirrel
That so-called Brit record.... Is it really record though when its not actually the highest selling week? And we are all yelling for gender equality all the damn time.
Taylor doing her own record is much more impressive. Scoring a feat that has actually never been done before. |
Women's achievements need to be heralded as aggressively as possible. The idea is to emblazon female power in the public consciousness. So, yes, it's important to note gendered achievements; they're milestones on the glacial trek of equality. And it's just as important to celebrate every important female achievement instead of pitting them against one another and trying to hold one up as more legitimate or worthy. The fact is that, while record sales have dwindled, so have sexism and misogyny. Would Taylor have achieved this kind of success 15 years ago? There's no way of knowing. And it doesn't matter. What's important is that she's here now and she's the latest to carry the torch of gendered progress.
I won't touch on Taylor's feminist qualifications because that's not really what I'm talking about. (And it's not like teen pop Lolita-era Brit is an unqualified self-styled feminist icon herself.)
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Originally posted by muddysquirrel
That so-called Brit record.... Is it really record though when its not actually the highest selling week? And we are all yelling for gender equality all the damn time.
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What kind of logic?  because this world is sexist, there's a need to categorize records to have a more objective comparison.
No one could come close to the cultural status of Britney. But Taylor might be the closest to the status of Pop Princess.
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Originally posted by like2throw
leeets not get ahead of ourselves here. |
Red actually sold alot more when you look at what percentage of the overall sales week they sold.
I think Red sold 19.2%% of every album sold that week
speak now 18%
NSYNC 15%
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People talk like Britney was the person to get a diamond album. Plenty of 90's artists have them, but they aren't relevant in 2014. Like N SYNC, Hootie & The Blowfish and MC Hammer. Britney fans need to realise that if the market was still the same sales wise, her record would have been broken a long time ago. She's over and a new generation is here. Kids growing up are looking to Taylor, not Britney's 15 year old albums.
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Originally posted by letscauseascene1
THIS.
Taylor is starting to become massive everywhere, but it took her 5 albums to get there.
People tend to forget the markets outside the U.S., but Britney was massive WORLDWIDE starting with her first album.
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And we all know what happened to Britney's fifth album... Slow success isn't any less impressive than instant. In fact, it could be deemed more amazing, seeing Taylor mastered two genres.
Taylor is massive everywhere. She started back with Love Song and steadily built an international base from there.
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Originally posted by muddysquirrel
That so-called Brit record.... Is it really record though when its not actually the highest selling week? And we are all yelling for gender equality all the damn time.
Taylor doing her own record is much more impressive. Scoring a feat that has actually never been done before. |
Exactly! Like in this day and age why are we still gender specific on records.
Taylor is the impressive one here.
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Originally posted by Impartial
People talk like Britney was the person to get a diamond album. Plenty of 90's artists have them, but they aren't relevant in 2014. Like N SYNC, Hootie & The Blowfish and MC Hammer. Britney fans need to realise that if the market was still the same sales wise, her record would have been broken a long time ago. She's over and a new generation is here. Kids growing up are looking to Taylor, not Britney's 15 year old albums.
And we all know what happened to Britney's fifth album... Slow success isn't any less impressive than instant. In fact, it could be deemed more amazing, seeing Taylor mastered two genres.
Taylor is massive everywhere. She started back with Love Song and steadily built an international base from there. |
Lol no, britney and celine are the only 2 females to have sales of over 10 million on multiple albums
If you count certs, mariah, whitney, shania and madonna join that list
a club full of legends
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These Taylor stans trying to downplay Britney's record are so embarrassing 
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Originally posted by Ash12345
Lol no, britney and celine are the only 2 females to have sales of over 10 million on multiple albums
If you count certs, mariah, whitney, shania and madonna join that list
a club full of legends
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Celine was never a mainstream pop artist. N SYNC were. Who cares if it's females or not? doesn't make it her any more relevant to today, that's all
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I don't know why people are trying it with Britney, the record exists and y'all will deal, I don't see the point of diminish one lady to make the other one look better.
Taylor will have her three debuts over a milli and maybe Britney's record while Britney will still have her debut over 1 milli and her to back to back diamond albums so there's no point of argue, one lady slayed and the other is slaying 
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