[Hoetenks]

Originally posted by ManDown

Wait. Just because I'm not religious and don't believe in any god, I somehow support violent crimes? Ugh...

Right!? You don't need to be religious to have morals.

She tried though.

[primo.]

Originally posted by WoozyFloozy

He really needs to prove that he's not just another manufactured product for me to stan.

Originally posted by ManDown

I'm not here for him having other people writing his songs and stealing the credits.

dffffffff

[Praise Mariallah]

Originally posted by ManDown

Wait. Just because I'm not religious and don't believe in any god, I somehow support violent crimes? Ugh...

Just because I support religion and do believe in God, I somehow think Satan is almighty? Ugh...

[UnicornOnChurch]

Originally posted by Wilkes

I don't get why people are so angry. What she tweeted was the truth.

Cause you says so...

[biomind101]

I love you, Miley!!! My teen goddess

[Thisisit]

Originally posted by QueenBLadyG

Funny. I always thought it was religious individuals who act and feel superior to anyone who they feel doesn't live up to what they think is acceptable to God...

Plenty of religious people are like that but there are also plenty of self-important atheists who think because they have read a few Wikipedia articles and posted in the Gaia online ED section they are master intellects and the vole voice of logic in the world and all religious people are stupid.

[WoozyFloozy]

Originally posted by ManDown

I'm not here for him having other people writing his songs and stealing the credits.

I heard that his father is in his ear telling him what to do during every performance.

[Danny789]

Originally posted by Praise Mariallah

And none of you have answered my question YET:

Why do atheists believe something can only exist if a man is able to prove it so? Why do atheists rely on mankinds ability to "provide receipts"? Especially since, so many men have been so, so, wrong about many theories, and existences before?

Any takers?

You can only believe and rely on fact. I mean do you still believe the world is flat? No! Cause we've proven that it's round. It's not up for debate no one can say otherwise. You wanna beleive in a higher power or reincarnation that's your right, but don't get offended if I call you silly cause you can't prove it.


Why do people go on with the rest of their life being logical ( I assume people use logic) but when it comes to religion they're totally illogical

[ManDown]

Originally posted by Hoetenks

Right!? You don't need to be religious to have morals.

She tried though.

Some of the nicest, most down to earth people I know are atheists, too.

Originally posted by Praise Mariallah

Just because I support religion and do believe in God, I somehow think Satan is almighty? Ugh...

I don't recall ever saying that you did.

But what that picture quote was saying is that, based on the bible, Christians give Satan more power than God.

[Praise Mariallah]

Originally posted by Benjamin

You don't need to be religious to be against Rape/Murder/etc. What a stupid assumption... What the hell was that one with all the circles meant to mean anyway?

Get over the poster. It was a ****ing joke. (And if God cannot destroy/defeat the devil, surely they're at least equally matched?)

I don't believe in God because his existence makes no sense to me, I see no logical reasoning behind believe he exists - it's nothing to do with Science. I actually stopped believing in him long before I know scientific reasons for the world beginning. (And I went to a Roman Catholic school and was the top of my R.E. classes for 13 years so don't imply I'm an uneducated idiot in the subject.)

Apparently that poster wasn't a joke, seeing as so many people in this thread are arguing for it. What I posted was the other side of the coin, I don't believe any of that. I was just proving a point.


OT: Do you believe in aliens?

[xXBreeXx]

Originally posted by Chivas

It's amazing how theists require evidence in every other aspect of their lives but they have no problem believing in a god without a single bit of evidence.

Your agrument doesn't work, because theists are driven by faith.

Definition of faith:

1. Complete trust or confidence in someone or something.

2. Strong belief in God or in the doctrines of a religion, based on spiritual apprehension rather than proof.

In plan terms, I am saying that there is something outside of this world, outside of "logical" thinking. Even science teaches us that everything has a beginning, a creator.

IDK, I found ALOT of holes in Evolution--the Big Bang Theory being a huge one. Humans can only come from sexual reproduction, right? But the Evolutionary creation story says that humans evolved from other small organisms--organisms that we're creating through asexual reproduction.

[YoYo]

Originally posted by WoozyFloozy

All these arguments and strawmen in a thread that shouldn't have gone past three pages.

THIS + the fact that her being a Christian was a selling point to her fans despite her taking semi-nude pics of herself, pole dancing on stage and lesbian kissing . Or is being a Christian just a name?

[Praise Mariallah]

Originally posted by ManDown

Some of the nicest, most down to earth people I know are atheists, too.



I don't recall ever saying that you did.

But what that picture quote was saying is that, based on the bible, Christians give Satan more power than God.

But, it's not based on the bible!! The teenager who put that mess together got it from some stupid forum. You couldn't have any understanding of religion (or the bible rather) if you actually believe that.

[KoreanDream]

If she's atheist now then that's her business. No one else's.

[ManDown]

Originally posted by WoozyFloozy

I heard that his father is in his ear telling him what to do during every performance.

He used to be sooooo amazing. Like, I even secretly stanned for him when he first came out. I don't know what happened. It's like he's trying too hard now. Old era > new. I miss the old him.

[KoreanDream]

Ugh, this God-damn argument again. I wish we could ban religious topics from ATRL.

[inspiration4]

Miley

She's not here for fabled magicians (walking on water) / talking snakes / flooded earths or slavery

[KoreanDream]

Originally posted by Danny789

You can only believe and rely on fact.

Actually, you can believe and rely on faith.

[UnicornOnChurch]

Originally posted by Marla Singer

Jesus stans just cannot take any criticism of their fave.

Jesus is not a freaking popstar whom you stan for
Disrespectful tbh

[Praise Mariallah]

Originally posted by Danny789

You can only believe and rely on fact. I mean do you still believe the world is flat? No! Cause we've proven that it's round. It's not up for debate no one can say otherwise. You wanna beleive in a higher power or reincarnation that's your right, but don't get offended if I call you silly cause you can't prove it.


Why do people go on with the rest of their life being logical ( I assume people use logic) but when it comes to religion they're totally illogical

Originally posted by Praise Mariallah

Atheists in particular will believe only what science supports, that is my argument. I'm questioning, WHY, especially since they've been wrong over and over again. If a man in a lab coat and glasses (with an incredible resume and a few degrees) made a statement tomorrow saying humans have some extra tucked away sensor in the brain, with the ability to trigger telepathy, THEY'D BELIEVE IT. WHY? Is that reasonable? I guess, if he uses big words, huh?

How do you explain NDE's? Or OBE's? Are all those people liars? What about a former atheist who experienced one of the two, do you question where his "proof" is?

How can you just rely on your senses? A man who's lived in a cave his entire life cannot see, feel, hear, or touch a neutrino, would he be wrong to assume they did not exist? Technology has carried us so much, who's to say there isn't a concoction somewhere in the future that allows us to see God himself? You can't see love can you? Or touch it? Or hear it? So, who's to say it exists right?