Album: Lady Gaga - 'Born This Way' (#4) - Page 448

Honey Eyes

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Originally posted by Ra2

It's not just you. It's not just the fans. It's the general public.

I honestly believe that there's nothing Gaga can do right now to please anyone. She's the biggest popstar in the world, and she has ridiculously high expectations that people have for her, even her haters, "She used to be so popular; She used to be so great."

I agree. However, she's not, and I'm trying to accept it. Just like I wouldn't REALLY want her to release more singles from BTW (I'd much rather she prepare for a new release instead). However, because I know that she's going to go ahead and release more singles, I see no point in bitching and moaning about her doing it.

Plus, I would really like to see what she WILL come up with on future BTW singles in regards to fashion/music videos/performances. Even further, she could have another top 10 smash or #1 on the album. I don't think we can say with conviction that anything on the album will smash or flop anymore considering our judgments as fans so far has been quite off (as a whole at least).

There are a lot of thing she can al least try to do. Sure, they won't save the era but they will prevent it from getting even worse.
She's set the bar very high, it's true. But she also keeps praising and hyping her work for no reason.

Hollywood.

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Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM

Yup. "...Baby One More Time" through "Womanizer."

I ain't worried. And honestly, if the music is good, I don't care if goes #1 or flops to #99.

TheLlamaNetwork

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Ra2

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Originally posted by hausofbryan

I never said I would bitch and moan if she released another single, I'm simply saying I don't think that's the best decision that she could make.

I'd be interested in Scheisse/HML as being singles, since I think they have the creative merit and success potential to warrant it. But I don't see why she'd even risk it at this point after MTN crashed and blew up (in all of the wrong ways).

About the album selling, we all saw the numbers before. Lets not kid ourselves, the big numbers right now are because of the holiday season. Come mid January, fans will be hollering when BTW is back to #70 on the BB200.

To your first comment, I didn't necessarily mean you, but since you were the one talking about whether or not to release singles, I was stating that to you.

Eh, I would say that she could be risky enough to release those two songs. They have the potential to flop hard or smash. There won't be an intermediate level (that is to say, I see them flopping as in performing similarly to MTN/Judas).

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About the album selling, we all saw the numbers before. Lets not kid ourselves, the big numbers right now are because of the holiday season. Come mid January, fans will be hollering when BTW is back to #70 on the BB200

I never said anything about the album selling, but erm, I agree. ^^

Amaru

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Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM

Maybe it's not the music that's making Lady GaGa alienate the general public...?

Marry the Night is as radio friendly as it gets.

Maybe it's the Jo Calderone and the Eggs and the "Mitosis of the future" that's turning people off?

Pyro-bra? Fierce. Reverse Drag? So 18th Century.

I know when I turn the radio on, I don't do it to listen to a thinly veiled sermon on birth empowerment

It's strictly my puss-shake time.

ifyouseekLEM

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Originally posted by GotMyBlueprint

MTN lyrics arent the best radio lyrics

Very true. -- but it worked for BTW....and MTN has a better hook. The chorus is her most "sing-along" worthy of the era....and it's a straight up club worthy track.

dream8ker

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Originally posted by GotMyBlueprint

MTN lyrics arent the best radio lyrics

Nobody cares about lyrics especially in countries such as France where basically 50% of the people are illeterate in English and 40% think saying "How are you?" is already speaking fluently!

And by the way Telephone didn't have the most elaborate lyrics yet it violently smashed here (France)!

Honey Eyes

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Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM

Maybe it's not the music that's making Lady GaGa alienate the general public...?

Marry the Night is as radio friendly as it gets.

Maybe it's the Jo Calderone and the Eggs and the "Mitosis of the future" that's turning people off?

Pyro-bra? Fierce. Reverse Drag? So 18th Century.

That's a valid point and one of the reasons why I'm saying she should change direction and imagine: they are clearly going against the perception of her music.

LadyGagaStan93

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Originally posted by Honey Eyes

There are a lot of thing she can al least try to do. Sure, they won't save the era but they will prevent it from getting even worse.
She's set the bar very high, it's true. But she also keeps praising and hyping her work for no reason.

She has ALWAYS praised her works especially in interviews. It's just that now she's doing it through twitter so it's just seen as pretentious to some people. I remember the hype for the Telephone video.

Amaru

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Originally posted by dream8ker

Nobody cares about lyrics especially in countries such as France where basically 50% of the people are illeterate in English and 40% think saying "How are you?" is already speaking fluently!

And by the way Telephone didn't have the most elaborate lyrics yet it violently smashed here (France)!

Agreed.

Telephone had a smoother production. It's the production in Born this Way that's turning people off.

Personally I've learned to love it, but I could see how it could appear intrusive to the average radio listener.

Ra2

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Originally posted by Honey Eyes

There are a lot of thing she can al least try to do. Sure, they won't save the era but they will prevent it from getting even worse.
She's set the bar very high, it's true. But she also keeps praising and hyping her work for no reason.

I think she is trying. The only options she really has is either to be a trooper and try her best to continue promoting the album (which she has chosen to do so far and will most likely continue to do) or just quit releasing singles and stay on the DL with her tour.

I don't think that even if she released "radio" songs that Gaga would be smashing like Rihanna or Katy or Adele this go-round. Gaga, like many others, cannot be on top all the time. Gaga went nearly 3 years topping all the charts, having all the success. Her "time" is over for now. Right now, it's Katys/Adeles/Rihanna's time.

Maybe next album, Gaga can start to see some of the success that she saw in the TFM era. However, I don't see it happening for a while.

vengabeat

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Originally posted by Nyx

It's already happening. She's the pop star with the weakest radio support.

It's always been that way and it hasn't stopped her from reaching the top. Why? Because, contrary to popular belief, single sales and radio support don't mean as much as people try to say.

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Originally posted by hausofbryan

I never said I would bitch and moan if she released another single, I'm simply saying I don't think that's the best decision that she could make.

I'd be interested in Scheisse/HML as being singles, since I think they have the creative merit and success potential to warrant it. But I don't see why she'd even risk it at this point after MTN crashed and blew up (in all of the wrong ways).

About the album selling, we all saw the numbers before. Lets not kid ourselves, the big numbers right now are because of the holiday season. Come mid January, fans will be hollering when BTW is back to #70 on the BB200.

Your point? That doesn't change the fact that BTW has sold over 5.5m copies WW with 8m+ shipments.

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Originally posted by ifyouseekLEM

Maybe it's not the music that's making Lady GaGa alienate the general public...?

Marry the Night is as radio friendly as it gets.

Maybe it's the Jo Calderone and the Eggs and the "Mitosis of the future" that's turning people off?

Pyro-bra? Fierce. Reverse Drag? So 18th Century.

Yep, but even with the visceral reactions, people are still intrigued, confused, and interested.

MonsterConnor