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Poll: Has Ke$ha become a non-factor?
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
I've always wondered how Ke$ha landed with Dr Luke.
We know Gaga landed with RedOne b/c (in his own words) he was a flop who kept being fed unsigned artists and she'd just been dropped.
But as for the Ke$has and Katys miraculously landing in the laps of the industry's #1 producer...
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But I wouldn't have branded Dr. Luke the industry's top producer when he started working with Ke$ha and Katy. Yes, he had had some previous success, but the bubble had burst on the pop-rock sound he favored. If the intention was to hook Katy Perry and Ke$ha with the biggest name in the industry at that time, I think they would have been knocking on Timbaland's door, considering the success he had with people like JT and Nelly. Stargate would have been another viable option. Dr. Luke's sound was by everyone else's standard a bit dated. In a lot of ways, he only really became a superstar producer after working with Katy/Ke$ha and making that transition into dance-pop.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
You know when kids trace over a picture using transparent paper? Bad Romance is the picture and Judas is the 4-year-old's piss-poor tracing. It flopped.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
I hate one-trick ponies, that's why I'm glad Gaga bombed with Judas.  |
LOL Ke$ha is far from a one-trick pony. 
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
LOL Ke$ha is far from a one-trick pony. |
Right? How dare they give her such a privileged title.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
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Originally posted by Ramcoro
LOL Ke$ha is far from a one-trick pony. |
Sadly she doesn't show it enough though imo. RCA could at least have released ONE ballad. Either Animal or The Harold Song- 2 amazing songs.
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Member Since: 6/30/2010
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
And only on ATRL would you read some type of **** like this. What point?
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What exactly is your problem?  I thought most of the acceptance speeches and presentations were either just messy or boring. Ke$ha always seems to have real thoughts and opinions to bring forward, and I like that.
I also like that she's not try-hard or pretentious, or is that **** too? Dx
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Member Since: 2/22/2008
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I don't think she'll ever be as successful as she was in the beginning. She won't be completely irrelevant though. Right now, she is.
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Member Since: 3/18/2011
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As a Ke$ha stan, I'm going to sound a bit biased.
However, I don't think she's a non-factor.
I think that because of her record label, she didn't get the exposure she really needed. I think her Animal era was ended prematurely. Cannibal was way too rushed, and could have had a 3rd single (that would have smashed).
I think ultimately that for her next album, she's going to become much more relevant than she ever was. I think she's taking the time to make something that's truly different for her, perhaps even pop music (maybe). I think that if she creates the right album and if she gets the right amount of promo, her second album will shoot her up to new heights.
She'll never be a Britney or a Gaga. I see her (sorry Xtina fans) as a Xtina. Great success but slowly fading.
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Member Since: 4/17/2011
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Originally posted by MrVulps
Only on ATRL would you find something like this.  Plenty of artists "disappear" between albums. It can be a good thing - the public starts missing them.
Ke$ha has proven her talent, I'm sure she'll come back hard. I hope she does actually, she's one of the few real, semi-articulate artists we have out these days. The VMAs made me realize that. Dx |
Ke$ha has from proven her talent with one heavily auto-tuned album and an EP to match. Cap10 was right. Why was this messed typed?  I'm not even sure what VMAs you're talking where Ke$ha proved her self to be "semi articulate" as if that's a good thing.
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Originally posted by Shame♥
Ke$ha has from proven her talent with one heavily auto-tuned album and an EP to match. Cap10 was right. Why was this messed typed? I'm not even sure what VMAs you're talking where Ke$ha proved her self to be "semi articulate" as if that's a good thing. |
Chile, I can't deal with these ATRLers. I forgot most of them were 5th graders just a few years ago. They're entertaining. I'll give them that much.
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She hasn't moved beyond the realm of "disposable drunk guilty pleasure" for most of the public, I don't think.
Gaga was able to command some respect and get people to at least acknowledge she was talented once Paparazzi rolled around, Rihanna's been seen as cool by 20-somethings from Umbrella on, and even Katy (despite the image) has managed to tow that line between fun and maturity that lets soccer moms use her.
It's still pretty early for her, though, but I do think she needs to come back with a different, more mature image. Nobody respects the drunk girl, and that act doesn't enjoy the benefit of being kid-friendly, either.
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Originally posted by Shame♥
Ke$ha has from proven her talent with one heavily auto-tuned album and an EP to match. Cap10 was right. Why was this messed typed? I'm not even sure what VMAs you're talking where Ke$ha proved her self to be "semi articulate" as if that's a good thing. |
I meant this year's VMAs. @_@ Hearing all the artists blabber on made me realize that I'd rather not have Ke$ha fade away because when she needs to, she speaks very well.
And so what if it was auto-tuned? I don't think it takes away from the album she put across. She wanted a nutty, fun album, and it was just that. And as a lyricist, she's definitely getting better as well.
We all know Ke$ha can be the crazy, drunk party-girl one moment and then switch to serious the next. I appreciate both sides. Don't act like your personal opinions are a fact, or better than mine.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Chile, I can't deal with these ATRLers. I forgot most of them were 5th graders just a few years ago. They're entertaining. I'll give them that much.
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Because its much better to be 20-something and online laughing at these supposed ex-5th graders? Lolk. Again, I don't care if your opinion is different from mine. This is a forum, after all. But you're just rude. I certainly hope that you're eleven or twelve, because that'd be the only excuse for that.
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Ooh, you booked me!
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MrVulps, have you heard Ke$ha complain about how people need to take her seriously as an artist? Nothing articulate or convincing about anything she said.
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Member Since: 6/30/2010
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
MrVulps, have you heard Ke$ha complain about how people need to take her seriously as an artist? Nothing articulate or convincing about anything she said.
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I have, however, she'd had enough good moments for me to believe that in a few years time she'll be a pretty stellar artist with a much larger fanbase. She's like-able.
She comes across as real, and she's proud of what she puts out despite the criticism that gets flung back at her. A lot of artists have these moments when they randomly rant about things like that (Avril in her first few years Dx). It sounds retarded, but then again every human does that.
She choses random moments when she decides that she wants to be taken seriously, and then again when she wants to project her other image. She needs to start sticking to one, but my point was/is that for an artist that just came out, I don't see how we can rule her out.
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Originally posted by Patrick
But I wouldn't have branded Dr. Luke the industry's top producer when he started working with Ke$ha and Katy. Yes, he had had some previous success, but the bubble had burst on the pop-rock sound he favored. If the intention was to hook Katy Perry and Ke$ha with the biggest name in the industry at that time, I think they would have been knocking on Timbaland's door, considering the success he had with people like JT and Nelly. Stargate would have been another viable option. Dr. Luke's sound was by everyone else's standard a bit dated. In a lot of ways, he only really became a superstar producer after working with Katy/Ke$ha and making that transition into dance-pop.
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Notice how Nicole skipped replying to your post full of truth -- that tends to be her pattern.
Of course Ke$ha isn't a non-factor, however, certain stanbases pray to the Illuminati that she is one, though. K$ is too smart and too talented and the fact that we're having this conversation with the release of only one album -- a debut number one, platinum album, mind you -- is already a testament to the massive interest everyone has in her, whether it be to praise her or call her a drunk ****. The sophomore album will smash and people will be mad -- that's all there is to it.
...Vin
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Yes, play like Cannibal never existed. 
If The Fame Monster existed, then Cannibal definitely existed, too. There's no need to wait til her "sophomore album" drops. 
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Originally posted by Vin
Notice how Nicole skipped replying to your post full of truth -- that tends to be her pattern.
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I replied to his post and he replied back. The conversation was over. The only skipping was done by you when you missed all that.
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
I replied to his post and he replied back. The only skipping was done by you when you missed all that.
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No, you did not reply to this post. Not in this thread, and not on Patrick's wall.
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Originally posted by Patrick
Yeah, but she's still just a vapid **** who relies on hit-makers like Dr. Luke to produce all of her material. Would any other girl be as shameless as to milk the signature, insta-hit, sound of a producer like, I don't know, RedOne? Probably not. And even if this other girl did decide to ride RedOne's production talents into superstardom, she'd probably decide not to work with RedOne on her third (maybe second, depending on who you ask) album, or at least limit his input, and come up with material that sounds soooo incredibly dissimilar to anything RedOne would have created.  |
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Originally posted by Haus_of_Nicole
I hate one-trick ponies, that's why I'm glad Gaga bombed with Judas. |
Oop.
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Originally posted by Vin
Notice how Nicole skipped replying to your post full of truth -- that tends to be her pattern.
...Vin |
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No, you did not reply to this post. Not in this thread, and not on Patrick's wall.
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