[Rami328]

Yeah, but they're most likely not on the apps.

[Satan]

Originally posted by JEWRJEWR

I dont really know much about that cause am str8 haha

[SHICD]

No, we're all flaming queens or iron pumping masc jocks.

[superglowy]

So basically the masc's don't want ya and the queens aren't good enough for ya.

Got ya sis.

[Sazare]

I get what you're trying to say, OP. The answer is yes. They're just harder for you to spot because they don't fit either of the archetypes you're used to associating with gay men because of your culture. Hell, even here they can often be hella hard to spot.

[Mimie]

Not really

[MonsterVSAnimal]

This shouldn't be talked about with the 90% of people on ATRL that are ignorant fem-twinks. Js

[superglowy]

Originally posted by Sazare

I get what you're trying to say, OP. The answer is yes. They're just harder for you to spot because they don't fit either of the archetypes you're used to associating with gay men because of your culture. Hell, even here they can often be hella hard to spot.

What he's trying to say is he basically wants a heterosexual archetype that also likes dick, but by classing this as normal, it's not wrong for him to want it per say, but it feeds into the idea that fem or camp guys are to be less desired or considered a less valid option or not 'normal', which is problematic thinking.

[Sazare]

Originally posted by superglowy

What he's trying to say is he basically wants a heterosexual archetype that also likes dick, but by classing this as normal, it's not wrong for him to want it per say, but it feeds into the idea that fem or camp guys are to be less desired or considered a less valid option or not 'normal', which is problematic thinking.

Maybe I misunderstood him due to the seeming language barrier, but what I took away from the OP is that he's afraid of being persecuted if he's seen with a more "obvious" gay guy because of the culture he lives in, not that he's not actively not attracted to them. Seems like he's being discriminatory due to circumstance to me.

Although upon reread I'm kind of side-eyeing his use of the word "narcissistic," but due to his phrasing I kind of thought he was referring to the gym rat-esque masculine gay guys with that.

[John.]

Normal gay is to be straight, married to a woman, have kids, house and car in the suburbs and having a Grindr or Growlr if your into the hairier scene.

[Amour&Psyche]

Have faith, I'm sure there's more guys in your country in the same situation, you just have to find a way to connect. Online dating sites and apps are the only place were Masc n Fem are prevalent. Masc and fem guys can be normal just like you. I hope that in the near future things turn around for you and you are able to fully express who you are and how you feel. Find guys who share the same interests as you, you might already know a henny.

[superglowy]

Originally posted by Sazare

Maybe I misunderstood him due to the seeming language barrier, but what I took away from the OP is that he's afraid of being persecuted if he's seen with a more "obvious" gay guy because of the culture he lives in, not that he's not actively not attracted to them.

Seems like he's being discriminatory due to circumstance to me, but eh. Although upon reread I'm kind of side-eyeing his use of the word "narcissistic," but due to his phrasing I kind of thought he was referring to the gym rat-esque masculine gay guys with that.

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt up until him also slamming 'masc gays' as well, so it's not just about his culture or such, he basically gay goldilocking, he has a type he wants and anyone outside that type isn't considered.

It's classic narcissistic gay tendencies. But ultimately he's the one that's gotta be with the person, so if that's the limits he wants to impose on his dating circle, do you I guess.

[Ruleth]

I bet if you actually tried to befriend one of those people who you're reducing to stereotypes, and you truly tried to get to know them, you would find that they are more individual and interesting and 'normal' than you would expect. Gay people are at the end of the day just people. If you're not attracted to feminine or overly masculine people that's fine, but it sounds like you don't even want to necessarily have sex with these people, you just want friends... To which I would say don't write someone off just because their mode of expression doesn't fit within some narrow heteronormative definition of normal male behavior.

[Heirloom]

Originally posted by superglowy

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt up until him also slamming 'masc gays' as well, so it's not just about his culture or such, he basically gay goldilocking, he has a type he wants and anyone outside that type isn't considered.

It's classic narcissistic gay tendencies. But ultimately he's the one that's gotta be with the person, so if that's the limits he wants to impose on his dating circle, do you I guess.

Originally posted by Ruleth

I bet if you actually tried to befriend one of those people who you're reducing to stereotypes, and you truly tried to get to know them, you would find that they are more individual and interesting and 'normal' than you would expect. Gay people are at the end of the day just people. If you're not attracted to feminine or overly masculine people that's fine, but it sounds like you don't even want to necessarily have sex with these people, you just want friends... To which I would say don't write someone off just because their mode of expression doesn't fit within some narrow heteronormative definition of normal male behavior.

Just like Sazare said, there is language barrier here and I'm sorry too if I misunderstood these answers

I don't say that a fem guys or masc guys isn't attractive to me or more "inhumane" to me (I said it again I use "normal" inappropriately) but I'm just curious are there any guys with a "in between" characteristics in real life as I don't have a chance to meet gay community in my country.

Just like any posters said before, I think there is some little representations of these peoples and also I've been found some discussions about how some gays can't identify with these "fems" and "masc" types, that have become a gay identity

[Daddy]

Originally posted by John.

Normal gay is to be straight, married to a woman, have kids, house and car in the suburbs and having a Grindr or Growlr if your into the hairier scene.

What is this mess?

[loveless]

It may help if we knew your definition of normal. If I'm not mistaking "fem" refers to gay men who act like women, and "masc" refers to gay men who act like men. Using this definition, wouldn't" masc" gay men be considered "normal", as sexual preference aside, they're just like straight guys?

[Stevie]

What's wrong with exercising and wanting to keep up a good appearance?

Also, the whole concept of "normalcy" is simply an illusory social construct. Everybody has their quirks and kinks, that's what makes us human. Mankind would be so homogenous and two-dimensional if we all fully fit into "normal".

[Glassmouth]

normal? I don't know any

[Stevie]

Like, what's even the purpose of trying to pretend you're "normal", especially as a gay person? You're never going to really fit societal norms, many of which are based on gender roles and heteronormativity. Why not celebrate your individuality and the beauty in being different instead? I just find the whole idea of wanting a regular, heteronormative relationship as a gay person to be so moot. You can raise kids, get married, and the whole bit; but you're never going to considered normal by much of society. But that's what's beautiful about being gay.

[John.]

Originally posted by Daddy

What is this mess?

I mean, that was the life of a normal gay back in the day (minus the apps obviously )