[Sunshine.]

With Rex Tillerson as SOS, you can pretty much say goodbye to any plans to reinstate coal that Trump promised.

I ALMOST feel sorry for those guys for believing him


(until I realize how much more harmful coal is to the environment than natural gas )

[Bloo]

Originally posted by King Maxx

I never believed Hillary would put any interest ahead of the country because she herself is smart and knows that the country would've followed her every move. People who voted against her criticized that she would do anything to get elected. That would've been an advantage for us. Keep her in line with progressive values cuz she knew she would lose in 2020 if she didn't.

Now we have an actual ego maniac who obviously cares more about money than patriotism and having the job. America lost on November 8.

I agree. Hillary's "ego" and "obsession with the presidency" (as her critics liked to refer to it) was a good thing in my eyes. She had an ego, she wanted to be a good president and that was painfully obvious (it made her loss that much more difficult). Trump literally could not give a ****. And that's what makes him such a dangerous president.

[ClashAndBurn]

Originally posted by Bloo

I agree. Hillary's "ego" and "obsession with the presidency" (as her critics liked to refer to it) was a good thing in my eyes. She had an ego, she wanted to be a good president and that was painfully obvious (it made her loss that much more difficult). Trump literally could not give a ****. And that's what makes him such a dangerous president.

That's what made him so appealing to his voters, I guess.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Bloo

I agree. Hillary's "ego" and "obsession with the presidency" (as her critics liked to refer to it) was a good thing in my eyes. She had an ego, she wanted to be a good president and that was painfully obvious (it made her loss that much more difficult). Trump literally could not give a ****. And that's what makes him such a dangerous president.

That's the point. They didn't want to send Washington one of their own. They wanted to send them a Molotov cocktail. Little did they know, they sent them the best bottle of wine they've ever had.

[King Maxx]

You have to work hard to get hired at McDonalds, and his supporters wanted someone who didn't care about the job. What the hell? This isn't some virtual reality online game. It's the most important job of them all.

[Lord Blackout]

I don't think Trump will truly be president. Pence will be making each and every decision as Trump looks for ways to expand the Trump Org. Like the clown can't even take his intel briefings.

[Sunshine.]

Originally posted by Bloo

I agree. Hillary's "ego" and "obsession with the presidency" (as her critics liked to refer to it) was a good thing in my eyes. She had an ego, she wanted to be a good president and that was painfully obvious (it made her loss that much more difficult). Trump literally could not give a ****. And that's what makes him such a dangerous president.

Trump AND his cabinet picks don't give a **** about their positions. dd

It looks to me as if they appealed for those positions in an attempt to undo any restrictions to their own personal goals.

[Bloo]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

I don't think Trump will truly be president. Pence will be making each and every decision as Trump looks for ways to expand the Trump Org. Like the clown can't even take his intel briefings.

Pence is still insane. He's the religious right wing of the Republican Party that needs to go extinct. I don't know how he would be on foreign policy, though.

[LuLuDrops]

Here's the full story on Michigan's audit:

Gary Miles ‏@GaryMiles_DN 5h5 hours ago
BREAKING: State launches audit after voting discrepancies leave 60 percent of Detroit precincts unrecountable.

Voting irregularities in Detroit have spurred plans for an audit by Michigan Secretary of State Ruth Johnson’s office, Elections Director Chris Thomas said Monday.

State officials are planning to examine about 20 Detroit precincts where ballot boxes opened during the recount had fewer ballots than poll workers had recorded on Election Day.

“We’re assuming there were (human) errors, and we will have discussions with Detroit election officials and staff in addition to reviewing the ballots,” Thomas said.

...Republican state senators last week called for an investigation in Wayne County, including one precinct where a Detroit ballot box contained only 50 of the 306 ballots listed in a poll book

...The state is not calling the audit an investigation, “but based on what we find, it could lead to more,” he said.

http://www.detroitnews.com/story/new...udit/95358702/

[Lord Blackout]

People have an irrational hate of Hillary now (as evident by some creeps in this thread itself). It first started with the Benghazi hearings which led to the "She's a criminal" thing starting then there were the emails then it was running against Trump and Bernie who've attacked her character first and foremost rather than her policies. As a result, many in the counties just voted against her. The #NeverHillary movement was strong and now they think they won when they got the biggest laughing stock of a president ever who's gonna drain the swamp that's whatever little money America spends on the poor and give it to the rich. All the while, Hillary left her last position with a 69% approval rating, can make millions from speeches, can now finally head her A+ foundation for the first time in a decade and pay little to no taxes as opposed to the 35% she had to pay under Obama. But Americans are too dumb to see that because they're just happy they stopped her from reaching her ultimate goal and stopped Crooked Hillary.
Some of you blaming her for not connecting with the WWC are underestimating the irrational hate that group has for her now (As evident by Bernie's town hall today)

[LuLuDrops]

The results are likely to remain the same, but at least the second glances at Wisconsin and Michigan are making states think they might want to upgrade their equipment and be more stringent with workers

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Bloo

Pence is still insane. He's the religious right wing of the Republican Party that needs to go extinct. I don't know how he would be on foreign policy, though.

I've come to think of Pence as a safety net. Wouldn't be surprised if his approval rating soars as Trump's rating remains horrible.

[Bloo]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

People have an irrational hate of Hillary now (as evident by some creeps in this thread itself). It first started with the Benghazi hearings which led to the "She's a criminal" thing starting then there were the emails then it was running against Trump and Bernie who've attacked her character first and foremost rather than her policies. As a result, many in the counties just voted against her. The #NeverHillary movement was strong and now they think they won when they got the biggest laughing stock of a president ever who's gonna drain the swamp that's whatever little money America spends on the poor and give it to the rich. All the while, Hillary left her last position with a 69% approval rating, can make millions from speeches, can now finally head her A+ foundation for the first time in a decade and pay little to no taxes as opposed to the 35% she had to pay under Obama. But Americans are too dumb to see that because they're just happy they stopped her from reaching her ultimate goal and stopped Crooked Hillary.
Some of you blaming her for not connecting with the WWC are underestimating the irrational hate that group has for her now (As evident by Bernie's town hall today)

THIS.

It frustrates me to no end when people act like it was blatantly Hillary's fault for her loss and she did a poor job of "exciting the voters". What the HELL was she supposed to do to excite the voters? Hillary Clinton provided the most expansive, detailed policy proposals of any candidate on either side. If you went to her actual briefing website and read them in full detail you would be astounded by how thorough they were. She also spoke of jobs more than any candidate in the general election; she spoke about debt-free college with a tuition-free plan similar to Bernie's; she spoke of raising the minimum wage; she spoke of investing in infrastructure and the private sector to encourage innovation; etc. She literally spoke about SO many progressive values that the progressives saying "she wasn't progressive enough and that's why she lost" just look ****ing stupid. She was running on the most progressive platform from a major party candidate in history. Despite all that and actually showing preparedness and clobbering Trump in all three debates (regardless of how you voted, you should not be able to deny that Trump was absolutely eviscerated in the debates), people just got triggered by the mention of "emails".

Seriously, grow the hell up. It is not Hillary's responsibility to make sure that you vote in your best interest. If you voted for Trump and the economy was your top concern, or corruption was what you wanted to vote against, or national security was your primary issue, etc. You didn't do YOUR homework and make an educated decision and that's on YOU.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by Bloo

Seriously, grow the hell up. It is not Hillary's responsibility to make sure that you vote in your best interest. If you voted for Trump and the economy was your top concern, or corruption was what you wanted to vote against, or national security was your primary issue, etc. You didn't do YOUR homework and make an educated decision and that's on YOU.

The funny thing is they knew she was better for the economy. They however thought Trump was better for national security (Keeping terrorists and brown people out).






They basically chose to shoot themselves in the foot to get back at Crooked Hillary and Muslims and Mexicans.

[King Maxx]

Hillary lost the election because of terrorism but being far qualified on foreign policy? But I thought she was a war hawk? Isn't that what you need to defeat threats? Hillary winning on the economy? But I thought that was the top issue that white working class voters were concerned about? I thought race had nothing to do with the results?

[Bloo]

Originally posted by King Maxx

Hillary lost the election because of terrorism but being far qualified on foreign policy? But I thought she was a war hawk? Isn't that what you need to defeat threats? Hillary winning on the economy? But I thought that was the top issue that white working class voters were concerned about? I thought race had nothing to do with the results?

The MSM likes the economy answer because it's neutral and seems plausible although no data backs it up.

[Lord Blackout]

Originally posted by King Maxx

Hillary lost the election because of terrorism but being far qualified on foreign policy? But I thought she was a war hawk? Isn't that what you need to defeat threats? Hillary winning on the economy? But I thought that was the top issue that white working class voters were concerned about? I thought race had nothing to do with the results?

Hush don't use identity politics.

[Sunshine.]

Originally posted by Lord Blackout

Hush don't use identity politics.

[HBK-79]

Originally posted by LuLuDrops

Let's just hope this Trump/Pence or whatever cautionary tale only lasts 4 years and doesn't pull a Dubya with 8

I don't want to sound negative. But I have a deep feeling that we could see 8 years of the Trump/Pence regime.

I don't think 4 years will be enough time for the DNC to pull themselves out of the hole that they're in, and mold a candidate that's charismatic and flawless enough to take down the Trump machine.

Think about it. In 2004, Bush had the Iraq War looming over his administration, and he still crushed John Kerry as a result of the RNC's "moral values" platform.

[LuLuDrops]

Originally posted by HBK-79

I don't want to sound negative. But I have a deep feeling that we could see 8 years of the Trump/Pence regime.

I don't think 4 years will be enough time for the DNC to pull themselves out of the hole that they're in, and mold a candidate that's charismatic and flawless enough to take down the Trump machine.

Think about it. In 2004, Bush had the Iraq War looming over his administration, and he still crushed John Kerry as a result of the RNC's "moral values" platform.

Almost a decade of either one ...

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