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Discussion: Why did Bey & P!nk outlast Brit, Xtina & JLO?
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Christina is one of the most talented artists of the last few decades. Not as commercial as before, but with the right moves and songs I have all the faith in the world she can smash once again. That voice is a rare gift.
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Originally posted by Victon
Don't get the rush to just reply with a bunch of craps and receipts lol.
The reality play itself out there and we can see the truth. Some people just love to obsessed with their own little universe.
P!nk is doing what she loves.
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Career trajectories won't change because someone slams hard on his keyboard.
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Beyoncé and pink only debuted this century. (2003 and 2000 respectively)
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No.
Destiny's Child's first single was released in 1997 and peaked #3 on the BB hot 100 in 1998.
She also won her first award in 1998
Just thought you should know.
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Originally posted by Red Hot Moon
You're such a try-hard. So, a No Doubt album is a Gwen Stefani album because she's the lead vocalist on 100 % of the songs  ?!
P!nk last solo album was TTAL and that has outsold Britney's last 3 albums combined  . Britney was a Justin-Bieber-type of artist 99-02, a huge teen star, but that was about it. P!nk is in her own lane, she has been superior to Britney as a musician from the very beginning. No need to catch up when she's been above her for a decade now  .
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The irony
Yes, a No Doubt album is a Gwen Stefani album just like Destiny's Child counts for Beyonce (and Michelle and Kelly, etc.). We evaluate receipts because they're an objective reflection of the popularity of an artist. Lars Ulrich has never sold a single record under his own name yet he's one of the most legendary names in rock. See how many people claim Metallica "doesn't count" for him. Group work counts for solo artists and people only spread the myth that it doesn't on ATRL to discredit Beyonce.
And from 2003-2016, Britney sold more singles than P!nk did in her career, pulled in a higher touring gross, outearned Pink, outstreamed Pink, was the biggest internet phenomenon yet and sold over 27M albums. Sure P!nk pulled in more albums, but to act like Britney's career was over when she was still keeping pace with these acts that blew up much later is absurd.
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For that Britney fans
Rose Ave is a side project with that guy from City and Color.
You+Me is the name, it's not a P!nk album. She didn't even put so much effort for that album, just a few performance and 1 cute music video.
Stay mad tho, there's no room for autotune singers, robotic voice and can't sing live to stay relevant.
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And Britney Jean got 0 performances and two music videos yet still managed to sell 650k. Tough luck, sis. Just because an album sells poorly doesn't mean you can discount it from your fave's discography.
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Originally posted by katykater
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Career trajectories won't change because someone slams hard on his keyboard.
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I love you for this.
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Originally posted by Eternium
The irony
Yes, a No Doubt album is a Gwen Stefani album just like Destiny's Child counts for Beyonce (and Michelle and Kelly, etc.). We evaluate receipts because they're an objective reflection of the popularity of an artist. Lars Ulrich has never sold a single record under his own name yet he's one of the most legendary names in rock. See how many people claim Metallica "doesn't count" for him. Group work counts for solo artists and people only spread the myth that it doesn't on ATRL to discredit Beyonce.
And from 2003-2016, Britney sold more singles than P!nk did in her career, pulled in a higher touring gross, outearned Pink, outstreamed Pink, was the biggest internet phenomenon yet and sold over 27M albums. Sure P!nk pulled in more albums, but to act like Britney's career was over when she was still keeping pace with these acts that blew up much later is absurd.
And Britney Jean got 0 performances and two music videos yet still managed to sell 650k. Tough luck, sis. Just because an album sells poorly doesn't mean you can discount it from your fave's discography.
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Whatever makes you feel good, I love that album Rose Ave, every fans did.
We don't go crazy attacking other fan base about status and stuff.
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Originally posted by QueenB4
JLO is a bigger celebrity but she is nowhere near as musically relevant as P!nk WW.
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musically relevant? JLo is still massively relevant musically, Jennifer has just had a Huge European/South American smash thats still charting all over the world,her Vegas residency is doing amazing (getting praised and acclaim) and making history (first vegas show to gross over £1 million in a night and already grossed over $30 million already and its first year is not even done yet) and Now sales are in the decline its all about streaming as we all know Jennifer is massive Streaming artist, i mean her last single alone has over 400 million combined streams! and shes had around 700 million streams alone this year combined not bad for some who's only put out 1 single.
Jennifer is on another level career wise, her career is sizzling hot shes just about to Launch a Dance show competition on NBC, shes filming shades of Blue season 2, a Movie for HBO (about a female drug lord) thats been written and directed by academy award winnig directors etc, shes got Vegas for the next 2 years, a new spanish album, a new english album on the way, The Fosters, another movie in the works, her fashion lines her fragrance lines, her endorsements (loeral,coppel,body lab etc) and all the other stuff shes working on! Shes not a struggling artist and shes got the steering wheel to her career she can basically do what she wants on a huge scale to not many get the opportunitys she does.
people forget jennifer started in 1995/6 when she became a household name (21 years ago) and been in the industry for nearly 30 years and is still at the Very top of the industry/celebrity ladder!
shes got the biggest career in hollywood shes not even on any of your faves level in the Industry shes a Massive brand that cannot be fcked with
plus jennifer is doing alot more producing now with films and tv shows she expanding her brand and getting bigger and bigger
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Didn't xtina score the latest big hit out of all the girls ?
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Originally posted by Pop Trash
Britney may not be "relevant" in terms of touring/album sales at the moment but she has legend status in the same vein of Cher/Kylie Minogue/Diana Ross in terms of being a pop culture icon so she doesn't really need things like album/tour sales to be remembered or talked about.
Anyway, Beyonce is still relevant because she is a perfectionist, is obliviously multi-talented, and is incredibly smart and strategic about her career and surrounds herself with a really amazing team of collaborators. I also think the lack of press and the mystery about her helps and reminds me of the way old school celebs used to handle the press (I think MJ is a lot of her inspiration in terms of how she runs her career.)
Pink makes unmemorable non-controversial middle of the road music that appeals to middle-aged people who still purchase music, and is known for being a very dynamic live performer. While she has album and tour success she does not have the "star power" of Britney or even J Lo in the sense that no one in the mainstream media writes or checks for her on a regular basis.
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Cher and Diana Ross transcend generations. Britney is only a niche to those who grew up in the early 2000's. No one is checking for her from previous generations nor newer ones.
Pink makes unmemorable music.? Then explain why her music is streamed more, has higher recurrent airplay, etc.
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^Not to mention one has been on an extensive promotional campaign, the other hasn't released a studio album in 4 years.
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This thread is still alive. 
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Originally posted by mdnazn
Cher and Diana Ross transcend generations. Britney is only a niche to those who grew up in the early 2000's. No one is checking for her from previous generations nor newer ones.
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......? Britney transcends two generations. Babies from the 1980s and 1990s. Lol @ the Early 2000s bit considering this entire board (before we became pop fans) knew her and most of us didn't grow up in Early 2000s, and no being born in say 1996 is not growing up in the Early 2000s before you serve December 1999 Babies calling them themselves 90s Kids tea.
In fact, Britney has better Social Media stats than Pink does she's more relevant to the new generation than she is. Pink just sells a lot thanks to HAC and AC Radio. Pink also flopped hard with You+Me so she clearly has little power in that regard.
Queen Bey though >>>>>>>
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Originally posted by mdnazn
Madonna has has more success regarding albums and singles than Britney since like 2005.
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No she hasn't, her TEAS and AirPlay are both lower.
You clearly don't know ANY facts at this point.
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Originally posted by Red Hot Moon
P!nk last solo album was TTAL and that has outsold Britney's last 3 albums combined  . Britney was a Justin-Bieber-type of artist 99-02, a huge teen star, but that was about it.
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LMAO. Britney was MUCH more official than that. Just compare their CHR/Top 40 impact and overall Treatment. Britney was a main girl like Taylor Swift / Katy Perry. Pink will always be a nonfactor imo. Like after all the success with TTAL, she couldn't fuel that in with You+Me. If Beyoncé did that, it would be big but when Pink does it it bombs. She clearly has little star power outside HAC and AC Radio.
OT: Beyoncé = Starpower and Impact. Pink thanks to being HAC and AC radio filler.
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Originally posted by DanceAgain
musically relevant? JLo is still massively relevant musically, Jennifer has just had a Huge European/South American smash thats still charting all over the world,her Vegas residency is doing amazing (getting praised and acclaim) and making history (first vegas show to gross over £1 million in a night and already grossed over $30 million already and its first year is not even done yet) and Now sales are in the decline its all about streaming as we all know Jennifer is massive Streaming artist, i mean her last single alone has over 400 million combined streams! and shes had around 700 million streams alone this year combined not bad for some who's only put out 1 single.
Jennifer is on another level career wise, her career is sizzling hot shes just about to Launch a Dance show competition on NBC, shes filming shades of Blue season 2, a Movie for HBO (about a female drug lord) thats been written and directed by academy award winnig directors etc, shes got Vegas for the next 2 years, a new spanish album, a new english album on the way, The Fosters, another movie in the works, her fashion lines her fragrance lines, her endorsements (loeral,coppel,body lab etc) and all the other stuff shes working on! Shes not a struggling artist and shes got the steering wheel to her career she can basically do what she wants on a huge scale to not many get the opportunitys she does.
people forget jennifer started in 1995/6 when she became a household name (21 years ago) and been in the industry for nearly 30 years and is still at the Very top of the industry/celebrity ladder!
shes got the biggest career in hollywood shes not even on any of your faves level in the Industry shes a Massive brand that cannot be fcked with
plus jennifer is doing alot more producing now with films and tv shows she expanding her brand and getting bigger and bigger
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Yes Jen did have a cute hit in Europe with Ain't Your Mama, it did pretty good in a lot of European countries but to be fair it flopped in the most important markets US/UK/AUS etc.
I'm not saying she is completely irrelevant in the entertainment world she is known more as a brand than P!nk, and is certainly the bigger celebrity but P!nk is the bigger musician this isn't even debatable. Yes, Jen is having some success with other ventures outside of music like Shades Of Blue and her Vegas residency, but musically speaking, her last album pulled abysmal numbers as opposed to P!nk's last album which was huge.
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Originally posted by mdnazn
Cher and Diana Ross transcend generations. Britney is only a niche to those who grew up in the early 2000's. No one is checking for her from previous generations nor newer ones.
Pink makes unmemorable music.? Then explain why her music is streamed more, has higher recurrent airplay, etc.
As well as
^Not to mention one has been on an extensive promotional campaign, the other hasn't released a studio album in 4 years.
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Britney has been around for nearly 20 years. That's more than one generation. As we all probably can tell from this board or stan twitter, she has fans in their mid-late 30s and has fans in their teens. That's two generations.
I also explained why Pink's unmemorable basic music is "streamed more" (too lazy to research this claim) and has more airplay in my post but since reading is hard I will say it again. Pink's middle of the road music appeals to middle-aged soccer moms who still buy music and listen to AC/Hot AC on the radio. Pink is unoffensive and appealing to a wide range of demographics so she's able to do smart collabs and get songs like Just Like Fire on big soundtracks that get a lot of play/press
Britney's recent music unfortunately does terrible with a wide range of demographics, as she has spent much of this decade making IMO poor single choices that don't resonate with the general public and she is much more polarizing.
I dug Pink's stuff in the 2000s tho, I'm not a hater or anything!
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Originally posted by QueenB4
Yes Jen did have a cute hit in Europe with Ain't Your Mama, it did pretty good in a lot of European countries but to be fair it flopped in the most important markets US/UK/AUS etc.
I'm not saying she is completely irrelevant in the entertainment world she is known more as a brand than P!nk, and is certainly the bigger celebrity but P!nk is the bigger musician this isn't even debatable. Yes, Jen is having some success with other ventures outside of music like Shades Of Blue and her Vegas residency, but musically speaking, her last album pulled abysmal numbers as opposed to P!nk's last album which was huge.
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maybe she may not be a album seller these days when having 100's of million of streams is just as important and it does not matter if she it flopped in the US (which is still did over 300,000 SPS) And the UK were is did (75,000) it was not promoted but its certified in alot of countries and was huge in Europe and was far from a cute hit its at nearly 500,000 just in certified Europe sales alone thats bigger then what Gaga,Beyonce,Pink,britney,katy perry all did with there last singles its sold well over 1 million WW and is at nearly 400,000 in pure sales alone in germany (which is huge) alot of popgirls are barley doing 400,000 in the US alone in pure sales these day let alone germany.
jennifer is at a different faze with her career shes literally the only one who can release a album and it flops and it wont effect her or end of her caeer! shes well balanced and is still capable of putting out pretty big hits and clearly shes making the labels alot of money shes constantly in forbes top10 highest earning female popstars her careers just at a different stage, beyonce has not surpassed her yeah her tours do amazing but its not like she selling 2 million albums outside of the US and she aint had a hit single in years outside the US literally the only thing beyonce has over JLO is touring and album sales in the UK and US, jennifer is still able to pull decent numbers from outside the US aside from AKA
Jennifer has sold nearly 30 million records in the last 6 years and has over 5 billion streams combined there more then respectable numbers especially for some one in there 40's and a singles shes released from each of her last 3 albums have gone platinum in the US and more.
beyonce and JLo are about equal, beyonce constantly raises the bar musically and does everything bigger and better then most popgirls and Jennifer is getting bigger and bigger and as a brand/entertainer and is having massive success in all her ventures
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maybe she may not be a album seller these days when having 100's of million of streams is just as important and it does not matter if she it flopped in the US (which is still did over 300,000 SPS) And the UK were is did (75,000) it was not promoted but its certified in alot of countries and was huge in Europe and was far from a cute hit its at nearly 500,000 just in certified Europe sales alone thats bigger then what Gaga,Beyonce,Pink,britney,katy perry all did with there last singles its sold well over 1 million WW and is at nearly 400,000 in pure sales alone in germany (which is huge) alot of popgirls are barley doing 400,000 in the US alone in pure sales these day let alone germany.
jennifer is at a different faze with her career shes literally the only one who can release a album and it flops and it wont effect her or end of her caeer! shes well balanced and is still capable of putting out pretty big hits and clearly shes making the labels alot of money shes constantly in forbes top10 highest earning female popstars her careers just at a different stage, beyonce has not surpassed her yeah her tours do amazing but its not like she selling 2 million albums outside of the US and she aint had a hit single in years outside the US literally the only thing beyonce has over JLO is touring and album sales in the UK and US, jennifer is still able to pull decent numbers from outside the US aside from AKA
Jennifer has sold nearly 30 million records in the last 6 years and has over 5 billion streams combined there more then respectable numbers especially for some one in there 40's and every single shes released from her last 3 albums have gone platinum in the US and more.
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Since when did having streams equate to being as important as pure sales? You just cant compare them, pure sales are paid for, streams are free, there is a massive difference.
Please just stop with your delusion, its seriously laughable if you think Jennifer is bigger than Beyoncé 
I mean, one is stadium tour and the other is performing in a hotel theatre. There is really no comparison.
The only thing Jen has over Bey is acting/tv/movies. Beyoncé has outsold her 3x over throughout her career and out toured her by an extremely large margin and out awarded her.
The point you seem to completely ignore when it comes to Bey and singles is that she really is not chasing hits that cater to the hot100 or radio anymore, you know this, I know this, everyone knows this, she's creating game changing universally acclaimed iconic albums that change the industry and culturally impact pop culture, not an album full of a collection of "hot singles". When she was in DC and her first 3 solo albums she had 9 career number one's so it's not like she cant get them because she's proved she can, number ones or hot chart hits are not her priority anymore. She even sabotages her single releases herself, which proves she really does not care anymore. I really couldn't care if she's not as "hot on the singles chart" anymore as opposed to how she was because, she's got the best selling album released in 2016 and is selling stadiums globally.
Selling 2m albums >>>>>> selling 2m singles
Selling 2m concert tickets >>>>>> selling 2m singles
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Since when did having streams equate to being as important as pure sales? You just cant compare them, pure sales are paid for, streams are free, there is a massive difference.
Please just stop with your delusion, its seriously laughable if you think Jennifer is bigger than Beyoncé 
The only thing Jen has over Bey is acting/tv/movies. Beyoncé has outsold her 3x over throughout her career and out toured her by an extremely large margin and out awarded her.
The point you seem to completely ignore when it comes to Bey and singles is that she really is not chasing hits that cater to the hot100 or radio anymore, you know this, I know this, everyone knows this, she's creating game changing universally acclaimed iconic albums that change the industry and culturally impact pop culture, not an album full of a collection of "hot singles". When she was in DC and her first 3 solo albums she had 9 career number one's so it's not like she cant get them because she's proved she can, number ones or hot chart hits are not her priority anymore. She even sabotages her single releases herself, which proves she really does not care anymore. I really couldn't care if she's not as "hot on the singles chart" anymore as opposed to how she was because, she's got the best selling album released in 2016 and is selling stadiums globally.
Selling 2m albums >>>>>> selling 2m singles
Selling 2m concert tickets >>>>>> selling 2m singles
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i never said Jennifer was bigger then beyonce WHAT SO EVER I said there about equal they are BOTH very powerful women in the industry and are equally as famous infact jennifer is even more famous then beyonce in South america and parts of Europe and beyonce has not outsold jennifer as a solo artist there around neck and neck in albums sales and jennifer has had alot more Global hit singles then beyonce
just stop only a hive would think beyonce is the biggest female in the game Rihanna,taylor,adele,drake,justin beiber abosulety monster beyonce in Single success and adele and taylor make beyonce album sales look pittyful
beyonce is only selling like 1.5 million albums outside the US which is not even remotely massive for some one who tours as big as she does and thats the only argument the hive can throw around is touring success like its the only thing that matters well its not the public dont care about tour numbers only the fans
jennifers got nearly 2.8 billion box office gross, 85 million records , 120 million combined tour gross, 5 billion streams, and her succesful tv shows and even her empire trumps all your faves
and shes still on top her game and will be for years to come
lets see were beyonce stands when her music career and touring days dwindle
and u add streaming aint important take away beyonces streams of lemonade and her numbers drop drastically it works boths way and dont try and turn it around and make out i said JLo is bigger musically because i didnt say that but jennifer has MASSIVE commercial music success under her name that cant be wiped away and for what it is jennifer is doing great musically and with her shows she may flop with her albums but she has many other things she can fall back on thats her advantage were if beyonce starts to flop she as basically done thats not the case for jennifer!
beyonce even said her self how much respect she has for JLo and loves her story from her bronx days to how she got her massive empire and she even STATED she would love a career like JLo! its proof of how massively successful is and how her peers look at her all her peers have spoken on JLo and her massive success and how her career is! Fans argue with stats but the industry see's jennifer as the Women who has done it all on a massive level just look at every single interview she does or when her peers speak about her they all praise her career she's known as the women who has conquered it all who is seen as a global music megastar a global hollywood actress and one of the best female performers alive that can turn it
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i never said Jennifer was bigger then beyonce WHAT SO EVER I said there about equal they are BOTH very powerful women in the industry and are equally as famous infact jennifer is even more famous then beyonce in South america and parts of Europe and beyonce has not outsold jennifer as a solo artist there around neck and neck in albums sales and jennifer has had alot more Global hit singles then beyonce
just stop only a hive would think beyonce is the biggest female in the game Rihanna,taylor,adele,drake,justin beiber abosulety monster beyonce in Single success and adele and taylor make beyonce album sales look pittyful
beyonce is only selling like 1.5 million albums outside the US which is not even remotely massive for some one who tours as big as she does and thats the only argument the hive can throw around is touring success like its the only thing that matters well its not the public dont care about tour numbers only the fans
jennifers got nearly 2.8 billion box office gross, 85 million records , 120 million combined tour gross, 5 billion streams, and her succesful tv shows and even her empire trumps all your faves
and shes still on top her game and will be for years to come
lets see were beyonce stands when her music career and touring days dwindle
and u add streaming aint important take away beyonces streams of lemonade and her numbers drop drastically it works boths way
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But Beyoncé (solo) has sold more albums than JLO, Jens sold 33m with 10 albums Beyoncé has sold 35m with 6 albums, and despite selling more with less releases Jen had an advantage since she released 3 studio albums and a remix album in a healthier sales climate, before Beyoncé even released her debut solo album. If we take into account her sales with DC then Beyoncé leaves Jen in the dust, and don't even go there with single sales because Beyoncé has sold over twice as many singles as JLO.
And it's funny that you can only use Adele (who is literally a rarity of a phenomenon) and Taylor Swift as a defence mechanism against Bey to try and put her down when they are the only two women in the world who are selling more albums than Bey. And you said that their album sales make Bey's look "pitiful" then my god I would absolutely hate to think what it makes Jen's look like
Why are you bringing streams into this when Lemonade isn't even on streaming services lol? It's pure sales stand at 2.4m which is amazing in this sales climate so I don't know what your trying to get at?
Beyoncé career is still going very strong after being in the industry for 19 years and it does not seem to be slowing down, having the best selling album of 2016 and a record breaking STADIUM tour proves this, so she good
Jlo on the other hand? Album sales are non existent, and as a result of this is now left with only one option, a Vegas residency in a hotel THEATRE performing to a handful of people. Lol embarrassing.
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But Beyoncé (solo) has sold more albums than JLO, Jens sold 33m with 10 albums Beyoncé has sold 35m with 6 albums, and despite selling more with less releases Jen had an advantage since she released 3 studio albums and a remix album in a healthier sales climate, before Beyoncé even released her debut solo album. If we take into account her sales with DC then Beyoncé leaves Jen in the dust, and don't even go there with single sales because Beyoncé has sold over twice as many singles as JLO.
And it's funny that you can only use Adele (who is literally a rarity of a phenomenon) and Taylor Swift as a defence mechanism against Bey to try and put her down when they are the only two women in the world who are selling more albums than Bey. And you said that their album sales make Bey's look "pitiful" then my god I would absolutely hate to think what it makes Jen's look like
Why are you bringing streams into this when Lemonade isn't even on streaming services lol? It's pure sales stand at 2.4m which is amazing in this sales climate so I don't know what your trying to get at?
Beyoncé career is still going very strong after being in the industry for 19 years and it does not seem to be slowing down, having the best selling album of 2016 and a record breaking STADIUM tour proves this, so she good
Jlo on the other hand? Album sales are non existent, and as a result of this is now left with only one option, a Vegas residency in a hotel THEATRE performing to a handful of people. Lol embarrassing.
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jennifer has sold more then 35 million ALBUMS as Sony as stated from there own mouth would SONY lie? and beyonce has sold twice as much in singles sales because shes released twice as many singles
and jennifer has only put out 7 studio enlgish albums (the other 3 were a remix, a Greatest hits and a spanish album)
so beyonce only has 1 less english studio album then jennifer, didnt beyonce also release a spanish version of bday or something to making beyonce 7 releases and only at 36 million albums sold? she beyonce who does huge tours releases way more singles and has 1 less english studio album then jennier are around neck and neck in album sales.......
and how many times has beyonce re-released her albums?
your making one rule for beyonce i see!
beyonce has done x3 more stuff then JLo musically and only seen similar global success (minus digital singles but then again she has released god knows how many more) then jennifer!
beyonces album do not selll millions worldwide and she cant get hit singles either you should be thankful she can still tour like she does not every one has a career Like Jlo that doesn't have to rely on one venture!
back to the original topic why has beyonce passed JLo? she hasn't.
jennifer has 2 albums that underperformed that didnt pass the the 1 million mark worldwide..... just 2 out of 9 and beyonce has a bigger scroll of singles that have flopped globally then jennifer!
jennifer can rival beyonce outside the US with ease!
and like I said jennifer mmusic career clearly making money she still on a major label and gets to release her music on global platform with major label support
lets see were beyonce is at 9-10 albums commerical wise if she gets to that
oh and xtina, britney and Pink have all sold more albums then beyonce so how has she passed any of them she needs to out sell them first and she has not not shes left behind in album sales 
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Whatever makes you feel good, I love that album Rose Ave, every fans did.
We don't go crazy attacking other fan base about status and stuff.
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Did you miss your last post?
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Originally posted by mdnazn
Cher and Diana Ross transcend generations. Britney is only a niche to those who grew up in the early 2000's. No one is checking for her from previous generations nor newer ones.
Pink makes unmemorable music.? Then explain why her music is streamed more, has higher recurrent airplay, etc.
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It isn't. Britney has higher total Spotify plays and about 700M higher VEVO views (not counting the 550M+ from Scream & Shout).
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Originally posted by QueenB4
Since when did having streams equate to being as important as pure sales? You just cant compare them, pure sales are paid for, streams are free, there is a massive difference.
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Now that streams are the dominant force of music consumption, they are important and can not be discarded.
That being said, 400M streams is equivalent to about 267,000 album equivalents. Beyonce is clearly bigger than all of her peers right now.
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