[Silence.]

Some people here missing the obvious point they beat us in the head with in that obvious finale. But who am I kidding, of course the PC loving 'justice!' warriors would think a full hour of Rya making awful jokes about them means that he agrees with them.

[Retro]

Denise as the clueless face of justice

adfasd poor Denise Hemphill

[Shinning]

The fact that no matter where you put Chanel, whether it's jail, an asylum or a sorority, she always becomes the Queen Bee and gathers loyal minions around her

[Repo]

Originally posted by Brunette Ambition

i did also like chanel and chanel #3 but i know that they were bad people and that it's not someting to look up to. which some people seem not to understand

This, except swap #3 and #5. I don't think people understand I genuinely like O and #5 as characters despite hating them. It's GOOD hate. I can do both

[Brunette Ambition]

Originally posted by DripDrip

I don't see why people keep insisting people dislike it cause the Chanel's lost

You wanna know something awful. The final person to die. WAS THE ****ING PIZZA GUY.

for me chanel was the last death,
as long as a possible 2nd season proves me otherwise.

[private radio]

Originally posted by Shinning

And not them completely forgetting about Coney and why they killed him

I mean what are we expecting in a show where they had to kill the original RD just to get the costume when they could have just stolen it are they really thinking they're making a change for the better here, Gigi stabbing the RD should have ruined the costume too

[Filthy]

Nnnn not people comparing a fictional TV character to freaking NAZIS.

[Repo]

Originally posted by Silence.

Some people here missing the obvious point they beat us in the head with in that obvious finale. But who am I kidding, of course the PC loving 'justice!' warriors would think a full hour of Rya making awful jokes about them means that he agrees with them.

I straight up side Ryan was poking fun at both sides and it was very obvious. But it's only the Chanels who are got arrested for being vile scum.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Brunette Ambition

for me chanel was the last death,
as long as a possible 2nd season proves me otherwise.

Honestly, though, I doubt she died. Beyond the fact that she successfully evaded the Red Devil's attempts to kill her like, 5 or 6 times or something, I feel like the ending was just there to provide the Red Devil as the symbol of the show as the last visual, and to make it very clear that it's not over yet.

If there's a second season (prayer circle commence!) I expect her to have survived the attack and gotten out of the asylum through an appeal or through people realizing "oh ****, it's clearly not her because she almost got murdered by whoever it is."

The Chanels will come back but with a very different group dynamic, Hester and the two goody-two-shoes girls will be back, Dean and daddy will be an item, Chad will be there to sleep around, and Denise will play a role with the FBI.

[Repo]

Originally posted by Filthy

Nnnn not people comparing a fictional TV character to freaking NAZIS.

My point went over your head. I was comparing "Just following orders" defense, not the actual actions

[ALA]

Yeah, Dorkus was a blast but the finale was very meh... disappointed.

[private radio]

nnn @ someone commenting on a poll here saying the finale was Perfect and that, "People just hate it because they are used to happy endings with rainbows and glitter"

but it was indeed a flowery, peace-on-Earth crap ending that we got

and no one wanted that. We want HORROR CHASE SCENES MASK REVEAL BLOOD BATH. This made the PLL reveal look perfect honestly

[Repo]

Originally posted by Silence.

You really think they went with that moral message? It's too traditional and if anything goes against the millennial critique that he's been attempting throughout the season. Nor does it match up with any of the themes that run in any of his other work.

If anything the chanels were happy in the ending while the sorority was the one with the ominous conclusion. An 'open and overly politically correct that will welcome any view provided that it's left leaning.' The obvious conclusion you could make is that Hester/Gigi/Boone and grace/zayday's crusade is one giant Social Justice Warrior metaphor that in itself was hateful and selfish towards people because they were born privileged and the environment they ended up living in is as poisonous as the one they left. Denise as the clueless face of justice jumping to agree with them is the obvious evidence supporting this.

The issue is that while attempting to bring it home he fell face down with an easy conclusion that left us waiting for 30 minutes for something we hadn't heard in an episode before, awkward pacing and awful writing.

You dislike those characters. Okay whatever, but your stretching your interpretation in an attempt to fit what you think Ryan's views of the characters were. The same characters he frequently said are his favourite to write and the funniest to watch. This isn't about bringing down the 'privileged bitches', they got the happily ever after, it's a failed allegory about the people who blame them for everything. Those guys ended up with several sequences trying to make the audience laugh at their simplistic ideological views and a murderer in their midst.

I've never denied Ryan was mocking Grace and Co. either. That line made me laugh as well and is the great representative of the OTHER extreme as well. This show was ripping everyone to shreds in that finale to the point that DENISE AND CHAD comes off as the one with the least amount of shots taken at them (beyond their obviously in the negative IQs) There is no doubt he was mocking extreme SJW types as well, but it's bordering on fallacious to argue that 40 minutes of how bad the Chanels are, the judge's speech, and the Chanels going to jail just for being catty bitches ISN'T arguing that they're bad too. And yes, they're happy in prison.... because they've stopped acting like vapid bitches. That's a pretty critical element. In fact, Oberlin openly says the reason she likes it there is because she doesn't feel pressured to act like a bitch. Ryan was going for about eighty weaves in that finale and snatched all of them. I'm still impressed.

And I like Chanel O and Chanel #5

[Repo]

Originally posted by private radio

nnn @ someone commenting on a poll here saying the finale was Perfect and that, "People just hate it because they are used to happy endings with rainbows and glitter"

but it was indeed a flowery, peace-on-Earth crap ending that we got

Well, the killer did get away. As did Munsch.

[Filthy]

Originally posted by Repo

My point went over your head. I was comparing "Just following orders" defense, not the actual actions

I think most of us got that clear in the Pilot when Chanel addressed them as their minions. Unless they rebelled against her (which didn't happen), the Chanels would always stick with #1.

Hell, we could compare Hester to the nazis too, since she was trained to be a murderer from early age. But it's completely unnecessary because we've known since the beginning most of these characters are evil. We get it.

[Silence.]

Honestly, like all of our views with the Chanels, a lot can be forgiven if it's funny. The last hour just wasn't funny.

[TaylorNation]

Okay so, it was a bit all over the place but I liked it.

It could have been waaay more Ryan Murphy messy, so let's all be thankful for that lmao. Overall, I was kind of pleased with they way it all turned out. Like, at first I was SO PISSED it was Hester because I thought she was going to die and I LOVE her, but she didn't, so it's okay. I also loved how the ones who were truly punished were the Chanels, and not Hester who was kind of doing a good thing? I guess Grace would have been a more inspired choice for the killer but whatever.

It was a great show. I really hope they turn it around and kind of reboot it so more people tune in. They need to make it more gory and violent (but not HBO/FX gory and violent) so it evens out the comedy and has something for everybody. Like, if season two actually happens and it is for real at a summer camp, the possibilities for death scenes and chases are amazing. They can't let that go to waste

But who was Pete calling? Was it Hester??

[TaylorNation]

Originally posted by Chanel.

The only reason Chanel's email wasn't particularly impressive to me was because the real-life one was way more brutal - this one felt neutered.

Originally posted by Repo

I thought that was pretty try-hard. The real life email was more absurd, ridiculous, and vicious than the exaggerated parody.



Agreed 100%. If there was something they should have gone balls out with, it's that email.

Originally posted by C/H/A/N/E/L

It's Fox. They couldn't have her do much more with that e-mail. But even though it paled in comparison to the actual e-mail, it was still ruthlessly funny, and it was executed in a brilliant way.

What real life email?

[private radio]

Originally posted by Repo

Well, the killer did get away. As did Munsch.

well ok true. They moved on happy still, for the sake of thinking they changed Kappa/WU/The system or whatever. Though a true SJW metaphor that they keep wanting to make it seem like they're doing it for the better with just a whole bunch of hypocrisy. Since the start of episode 13 it had this happy ending vibes towards the "good" people, til that moment they vacated Chanel's closet for Gracie's hotline movement. Obvi they had this sob story for Hester to grant her of a pass, so it's definitely a happy ending for her, people who want her character to survive and Lea's fans.

[RomaZzzRoma]

Originally posted by Jessie Mulay

Ok after sleeping it over I really liked the last part of the finale, like when we see Denise, them cleaning the memorial, the Chanel's in the Asylum. Basically everything minus the whole Hester revealing herself part