While I agree that they should receive asylum in Europe, I do think at the same time that Europe is being too nice to them
Should they receive help from Europe and have the right to countries that will offer them accommodation and food? Yes
Should they have the right to choose what country they wanna go because it offers them better benifits? No
Should the European police use VIOLENCE for those DISGUSTING SUB HUMANS throwing stones at them? YES
A man is suiciding because it turned out that the train is not taking them to Germany? Let IT and IT's family DIE.
Men are protesting naked on the ice and won't stop until they receive accommodation in downtown Stokholm? LET THEM D.I.E.
They're giving such a HORRIBLE reputation for my country of extremely powerful, hardworking, clean hearted, and truly beautiful people, Syria.
You CANNOT run away from an ISIS ridden country where men like you are expected to join the national army, and expect to be living in a mansion in Geneva the next day.
How do the ordinary German people feel about all of these people coming into their country?
There are always a few who run riot but that's the minority. Most people are very supportive.
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But the trait was certainly on full display among the volunteers who had organised themselves on Facebook and were at the station handing out provisions and basic toiletries that had been donated by the citizens of Munich and local shop owners.
So many donations had been received by Tuesday afternoon, the police had to issue an appeal for people to stop. Johannes Stahl, 18, who took the train to Munich from his hometown of Aichach, about 50km away, on hearing on the news that thousands of refugees had arrived at Munich station and help was needed, says: “We’re learning as we go along, and trying to react as fast as we can to the needs people tell us they have, including things like nappies and cream for babies’ raw bottoms.”
Dressed in an orange safety jacket and shorts, the nursing student is now part of an impromptu network of volunteers working round the clock. He is at the start of a 6am to 8pm shift, and calls his mother to tell her he will not be back home before Thursday.
Elsewhere, the fire brigade has activated extra hydrants at the station to ensure there is a sufficient supply of water. Some firefighters are handing out bananas and chocolate to the refugees. Commuters and holidaymakers – some wearing traditional Bavarian dirndl dresses, others pushing mountain bikes – approach with gifts of fruit juice and bread rolls they have spontaneously bought at the station’s kiosks.
Umbrellas that Dieter Reiter, the mayor of Munich, organised on Tuesday to help shade the new arrivals from the baking heat as they waited to be registered, are on being used on Wednesday to shelter them from heavy rain showers. Lists of what is needed are pinned to the wall: the items include dictionaries, rucksacks, toothbrushes and bicycles.
Doctors assessing the medical needs of the newcomers, especially the children, say that while it is not immediately obvious when they clamber from the trains, and often beam on being greeted with gifts of cuddly toys from passersby, about one in five are suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder. Many have tooth decay and most are insufficiently inoculated
In the main hall, a group from the refugee charity Willkommen in München (Welcome to Munich) hold placards bearing the messages “welcome” and “we can show you where to register” in five languages. Outside the station, confused tourists ask the police where the regular buses are: those that normally take visitors to the Pinakothek art gallery or the airport. A volunteer replies: “You’ll have to go a bit further down the road. The bus stop is being used for the refugees for now.”
The shuttle service is taking the newcomers to reception centres in and around Munich. No one appears to complain. A night train manager who has witnessed first hand Europe’s migration crisis unfolding over the past three years on the routes he regularly travels between Italy, Hungary and Munich, says he has seen how the police in Germany have grown far more tolerant.
Asking not to be named, he says: “It seems the more they have contact with them, the more empathy they have. Time was the police used to throw Syrian families off the train. Now they’re handing out chocolate bars to them. I think that change in attitude goes for most Germans as a whole”.
When the 2.34pm Railjet arrives on platform 12 from Keleti, a grandmother eating carrot cake in a Starbucks overlooking the platform almost drops her fork. “Oh my goodness,” she exclaims to her two young grandsons. “They’re coming from Budapest after all.”
Sultan, from northern Iraq, who has lived in Germany for nine years, has come to the station to volunteer his services as a translator of Arabic, Kurdish and Persian into German. He says: “I’ve seen some horrible cases of people having been separated between here and Budapest, sometimes even parents from their young children.”
Increasingly, as it rises to the challenge of absorbing a far greater number of refugees than any other European nation, there is a feeling in Germany that the country has changed in a single summer. And with that, the status of someone like Sultan, who for years has had the task of cleaning Germany’s offices, or selling kebabs, and has suddenly become an unofficial diplomat or mediator thanks to his vital communication skills. The police noticeably hang on his every word. An elderly man comes to platform 13 as a train from Verona pulls in, carrying another large group, mainly consisting of young Afghan men. He says to Sultan: “I have brought two of my old shirts. Who can I give them to?
Carsten Neubert, a police spokesman, says: “The mood is relaxed. We can cope. The numbers coming in today are in fact nothing unusual – put in the context of the last three months.”
But some of the arrivals go unnoticed. Samad, a 17-year-old from Kunduz in Afghanistan – one of a group of six Afghan men and boys who have arrived without fanfare on a train from Passau on platform 25 – slips past a group of police officers into the crowds of travellers. He explains in broken English how he paid smugglers $7,000 to get him here. The final stretch was spent in a van, which ended when the driver let him out at the side of the road in Passau, from where he managed to find the train station and get to Munich. He says the entire journey took two months “swimming, walking; I am tired”. Dressed in a bedraggled green sweater and looking thin and tired, he adds: “But this is Almaniya. Now I have security.”
While I agree that they should receive asylum in Europe, I do think at the same time that Europe is being too nice to them
Should they receive help from Europe and have the right to countries that will offer them accommodation and food? Yes
Should they have the right to choose what country they wanna go because it offers them better benifits? No
Should the European police use VIOLENCE for those DISGUSTING SUB HUMANS throwing stones at them? YES
A man is suiciding because it turned out that the train is not taking them to Germany? Let IT and IT's family DIE.
Men are protesting naked on the ice and won't stop until they receive accommodation in downtown Stokholm? LET THEM D.I.E.
They're giving such a HORRIBLE reputation for my country of extremely powerful, hardworking, clean hearted, and truly beautiful people, Syria.
You CANNOT run away from an ISIS ridden country where men like you are expected to join the national army, and expect to be living in a mansion in Geneva the next day.
Well damn, let it out.
I agree though. If they demanding all this and getting their way, what will they be demanding once they get to their country of choice and what action will they take to get it. It also gives a bad message to others wanting to come, i think Europe is making it look very easy. Why wouldn't others want to come when they see others just go where they want?
I read Poland said they would accept only Christians. Is that true? And can they do that? Or can they be ordered to take in everyone?
Doubt any of these people would even think of going to Poland tho.
It's true
It's complicated tho, Poles protect their land jealously because of the history & stuff. All outsiders are p much unwelcome in the eyes of the gov.
The US should really take responsibility, though, they're the main cause of the region's destabilization. It's very shady that they do nothing.
A lot of it is still in in the air isn't it. Quite frankly 90% of Poland does not want help immigrants.
For them there is a clear distinction between regufees and immigrants. Refugees are not faced with such harsh critics, still not very welcome tho. There are a few reasons for that.
Bruto income is 800 euro, unemployment 10.5% for youth it's 22%.
There is no welfare in place for Polish people so people are annoyed that this would have to be created only for the immigrants/refugees while Polish people themselves get nothing.
They already took in tens of thousands Ukrainians (with open arms I may add) over the last 2-3 years that ran accross the border when **** hit the fan yet nobody has mentioned that in the media.
Polish people feel it's a problem of the west and the US since they wanted to stick their nose where it didn't belong or wanted to colonize parts of the world where they had no business and thus they should clean up that mess themselves.
Yeah, but we fail to recognize that we did our part in the Iraq war
Well, I do agree. Merkel messed it up. The child who drowned was safe in Turkey. if they were safe there , why did the father took the risk?
You are war refugees, you need safety. After you get that your refugee rights end, You CANNOT throw the water the other EU coutries are giving too you and scream GERMANY.
Then they are trying to enter EU for economic migration illegally. I am sorry but this thing Germany or we are ready to die is NONSENSE. I change my stance today after many discussions I had.
You need safety. When war is over, you are supposed to go back to your country.
If all people leave Syria, then should that country dimnish...
A lot of these men should be sent back into Syria to fight those ISIS terrorists! It is their country and their families they left behind. They should not abandon it like that! All this anger from these refugee/migrant men should be directed to ISIS not Europeans trying their best to control the situation.
Interesting posts in this thread. I just...hmm. I don't know.
Syria's such a powder keg waiting to be lit - if there was any sort of interference by the U.S. or a coalition in terms of ground troops right now, I feel like it'd do more damage than good for the entire Middle East.
In terms of jobs that can sustain something resembling a livelihood for the refugees, good luck.
Well, I do agree. Merkel messed it up. The child who drowned was safe in Turkey. if they were safe there , why did the father took the risk?
You are war refugees, you need safety. After you get that your refugee rights end, You CANNOT throw the water the other EU coutries are giving too you and scream GERMANY.
Then they are trying to enter EU for economic migration illegally. I am sorry but this thing Germany or we are ready to die is NONSENSE. I change my stance today after many discussions I had.
You need safety. When war is over, you are supposed to go back to your country.
If all people leave Syria, then should that country dimnish...
The thing what people seem to forget is that once you ask for asylum it has to be granted as well. People seem to think that once you made it, that's it, set for life. When in reality many will be asked to return later or have their permanent status rejected.
A lot of these men should be sent back into Syria to fight those ISIS terrorists! It is their country and their families they left behind. They should not abandon it like that! All this anger from these refugee/migrant men should be directed to ISIS not Europeans trying their best to control the situation.
I understand your frustration, but no one should be forcibly drafted. That's cruel.
While I agree that they should receive asylum in Europe, I do think at the same time that Europe is being too nice to them
Should they receive help from Europe and have the right to countries that will offer them accommodation and food? Yes
Should they have the right to choose what country they wanna go because it offers them better benifits? No
Should the European police use VIOLENCE for those DISGUSTING SUB HUMANS throwing stones at them? YES
A man is suiciding because it turned out that the train is not taking them to Germany? Let IT and IT's family DIE.
Men are protesting naked on the ice and won't stop until they receive accommodation in downtown Stokholm? LET THEM D.I.E.
They're giving such a HORRIBLE reputation for my country of extremely powerful, hardworking, clean hearted, and truly beautiful people, Syria.
You CANNOT run away from an ISIS ridden country where men like you are expected to join the national army, and expect to be living in a mansion in Geneva the next day.
This. Those people with tattoo and fancy haircuts don't look so in danger. They even left their wives and kids in Syria. It's shocking what they are asking for. Running in highways toward Austria. Do they know that other people have problems too but respect the law and stuff. They are basically brainwashed and want to become RICH. Which I applaud Cameron's reaction today. All the people in Syrian camps need help. Others should stay away. And U.S should have taken action and not let Europe fall apart and destroy the most historic continent,
You don't want to be registred to camps in Hungary, then get out of Europe. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A WAR VICTIM, you cannot refuse the slightest help. And what if with all this people coming, there may be ISIS fighters who may kill us on suicide bombs while we take the metro etc... And Gulf states taking none Qatar, world's richest state
Is there an estimate for the number of people migrating into Europe currently?
I cant say any accurate numbers buut Sweden and Germany are getting the most migrants lately most people are choosing there.
Finland is also accepting but not AS MUCH as other countries.
Austria as a fair amount of migrants too, but they are SO much in Sweden!
And people saying Germany has jobs without limits. I have many friends who went to Germany from Czech and they returned after six month of job hunting. And the fact that Sweden who was a heaven in this world has one of the highest rape rates as a country is shocking. Most of them will have 0 chance of integration.
This. Those people with tattoo and fancy haircuts don't look so in danger. They even left their wives and kids in Syria. It's shocking what they are asking for. Running in highways toward Austria. Do they know that other people have problems too but respect the law and stuff. They are basically brainwashed and want to become RICH. Which I applaud Cameron's reaction today. All the people in Syrian camps need help. Others should stay away. And U.S should have taken action and not let Europe fall apart and destroy the most historic continent,
You don't want to be registred to camps in Hungary, then get out of Europe. YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO BE A WAR VICTIM, you cannot refuse the slightest help. And what if with all this people coming, there may be ISIS fighters who may kill us on suicide bombs while we take the metro etc... And Gulf states taking none Qatar, world's richest state
This is a sad example.
They expect a snake coming to bite them
Mosquito bites are killing them
While I agree that they should receive asylum in Europe, I do think at the same time that Europe is being too nice to them
Should they receive help from Europe and have the right to countries that will offer them accommodation and food? Yes
Should they have the right to choose what country they wanna go because it offers them better benifits? No
Should the European police use VIOLENCE for those DISGUSTING SUB HUMANS throwing stones at them? YES
A man is suiciding because it turned out that the train is not taking them to Germany? Let IT and IT's family DIE.
Men are protesting naked on the ice and won't stop until they receive accommodation in downtown Stokholm? LET THEM D.I.E.
They're giving such a HORRIBLE reputation for my country of extremely powerful, hardworking, clean hearted, and truly beautiful people, Syria.
You CANNOT run away from an ISIS ridden country where men like you are expected to join the national army, and expect to be living in a mansion in Geneva the next day.
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Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi
Well, I do agree. Merkel messed it up. The child who drowned was safe in Turkey. if they were safe there , why did the father took the risk?
You are war refugees, you need safety. After you get that your refugee rights end, You CANNOT throw the water the other EU coutries are giving too you and scream GERMANY.
Then they are trying to enter EU for economic migration illegally. I am sorry but this thing Germany or we are ready to die is NONSENSE. I change my stance today after many discussions I had.
You need safety. When war is over, you are supposed to go back to your country.
If all people leave Syria, then should that country dimnish...
I think 'subhumans' and 'let them die' is a bit much, but this. Am I wrong in thinking that once they are accepted in Hungary they can then move freely throughout the EU? The audacity to refuse the help of countries they see as 'less desirable'. Beggars can't be choosers.
This is why a quota won't work, they'll all just immediately move to Germany, or here, or Sweden.
Qatar, world's richest state 
