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Celeb News: Taylor & Nicki feud on Twitter.
Member Since: 1/5/2014
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Is funny see taylor saying not to put one against each other when she did exactly the same thing with Bad Blood 
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Originally posted by Mezter
That's no excuse though. It's not hard to be grateful for being nominated multiple times. A few deserving people didn't get nominated at all.
Literally, who else is even bitching about not getting a nom in a category they wanted? It's ridiculous
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Also white people dont have to worry about being snubbed for their race since their privileged so that wouldn't be a topic Megan or any other snubbed white ppl would even be able to discuss
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This whole thing will blow over In a week like that Ariana donut thing
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Originally posted by Mezter
I am just appalled that people can't see what Nicki was doing. She completely changed what the whole situation was about when Taylor clocked  |
Those stan glasses be THICK sis 
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Originally posted by Mast
Because it wasn't rivaling beauty standards. The song/video wasn't about curvy girls, it was about big butts. Not a coincidence, it was released around the same time twerking and big butts peaked. Also not a coincidence, it sampled a song that objectified women to begin with. Nicki wasn't making a statement, she was just milking a situation. Hell, even the lyrics themselves have no message. They're all about wanting big dicks, sex, and drugs. AKA everything she and everyone in the music industry has written about. The song changed nothing and the video was just a soft **** fest. Sorry about it.
Please do not come at me and try to tell me she's a feminist and defies beauty standards, because her verses in Hey Mama are the complete opposite of that and only justify my point about Anaconda hypersexualizing women. Heck, if anything, she's putting women back into a box. "Yes I'll do the cooking, yes I'll do the cleaning, yes I keep the ***** real sweet for your eating". Tell me where the sex-and-body-positiveness and gender-norm-defiance is in those lyrics.
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Nicki has previously stated that the song was meant to celebrate bigger girls so I don't think the meaning of the original song applies as she created her own meaning and interpretation also her singing lyrics about wanting to please her man doesn't mean she's demanding that other women do the same so idk what ur implying
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Member Since: 8/17/2011
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Originally posted by alestevens
I see you're failing to see the point. Im not even talking about racial issues or the Taylor thing, but Nicki has been saying that the VMAs have a bias against her and that if she was different (either in weight, nationality, race, gender or genre) she would be nominated, even when that's not the case because people who share her same conditions are in fact, nominated.
Is racism a thing? Yes, it is
Is it good that Nicki talks about it? Of course it is
Are the VMAs racist / xenophobic / sexist / etc? No, they are definitely not, and her actually attempting to say they are is nothing short of embarrassing
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Nominating only 2 black females in major categories is not true inclusion and does not absolve something from being racist.
Anaconda made a huge impact and the fact that it was ignored when another video that made the same type of impact was nominated AND won last year is pretty fishy and should not be dismissed.
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Originally posted by EthaneFenty
She was nominated with a collab alongside 2 white women instead of along side a black women, the latter clearly should have been a contender but wasn't, that's the issue she's referring to.
But black males aren't struggling to get nominations so how would it help. What's so wrong with saying black females instead of black people? Black women deserve an equal amount of praise and appreciate and that can only happen when we start to acknowledge the underlying struggle of black females in the already struggling black community
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"Clearly should have been nominated" according to who? You and Nicki? That's an opinion you and few others share because I didn't even know the song had a video. 
And once again, you're missing the point. She didn't even make it about race until Taylor said something and try to turn it on the white media and how she wasn't even referring to her when clearly all the tweets prior to that were directed at a female in the categories she wasn't nominated in. If it's not Taylor, she's shading her collaborators Ariana and Jessie but that's obviously unlikely since she falls in that nomination.
Were this coming from Azealia, I would absolutely agree with you, being the woman (albeit bat **** crazy) sticks to how she feels. Nicki on the other hand is hardly vocal about racial topics and kept silent through recent racial problems. Like, oh yeah, now you want to talk about the white media and racism when you weren't nominated for something for a stupid VMA but when black people are being shot, you stay silent as ****? FOH.
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Originally posted by Wonda
Wow, can't believe she brought race into it. Lol.
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Sorry you weren't aware that racism still exists in 2015.
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Originally posted by EthaneFenty
She was nominated with a collab alongside 2 white women instead of along side a black women, the latter clearly should have been a contender but wasn't, that's the issue she's referring to.
But black males aren't struggling to get nominations so how would it help. What's so wrong with saying black females instead of black people? Black women deserve an equal amount of praise and appreciate and that can only happen when we start to acknowledge the underlying struggle of black females in the already struggling black community
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Black females arent struggling, not with nominations nor wins
Females with the most wins in VMA history:
1. Madonna: 20
2. Beyoncé: 18
3. Lady GaGa: 13
4. Janet Jackson: 9
5. P!nk: 6
5. Britney Spears: 6
7. Katy Perry: 5
7. Missy Elliot: 5
Out of the only eight female winners in VMA history to win at least 5, 3 have been black, that's nearly half of the list
Out of them, the most nominated are:
• Madonna: 68
• Beyoncé: 49
• Janet Jackson: 39
• Missy Elliot: 39
• Britney Spears: 27
• Lady GaGa: 26
• Katy Perry: 24
• P!nk: 15
So the Top 4 is basically the biggest female artist of all time followed by 3 black females. So they definitely do not struggle with nominations 
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Originally posted by rcksluke
Is funny see taylor saying not to put one against each other when she did exactly the same thing with Bad Blood |
Karma is a bitch 
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Originally posted by Vin
You know what you're failing to realize, kid?
Here, ask yourself this: When did this stop being about a VMA?
The answer: When Taylor Swift called Nicki Minaj out for her comments. As soon as Swift directly replied to Minaj, and verbally hit her in the face with a suitcase, that was when Minaj was immediately taken aback -- she was scared, panicked, and then, and only then, was when Minaj turned to her last resort: talking about race, and media, and Tidal. She didn't mention these topics until after Taylor Swift knocked her out. Just look at the tweets; I'm not making this stuff up, kids.
And that's what you need to realize, son. That Nicki Minaj doesn't really care about these racial issues, s he was just backed into a corner by Taylor Swift's comments and needed a way out, and her only saving grace was falling back on the race card.
...Vin |
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Originally posted by katycat737
I can't believe that Taylor tweeted "It's unlike you to pit women against each other" Calculated suchopath trash strikes again |
"Suchopath," though?
I think you mean "sociopath," katycat737. Stay in school, kids.
...Vin
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Originally posted by JClarkSTAN
Nominating only 2 black females in major categories is not true inclusion and does not absolve something from being racist.
Anaconda made a huge impact and the fact that it was ignored when another video that made the same type of impact was nominated AND won last year is pretty fishy and should not be dismissed.
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You legitimately think there is racism at play? Then why are Beyonce, Kendrick Lamar (twice), and Bruno Mars nominated for VOTY? And why are Bruno Mars, Kendrick Lamar, and The Weeknd nominated for Male Video? And why are Beyonce and Nicki Minaj nominated for Female Video?
Anaconda didn't have a lasting effect like Wrecking Ball had, and there was simply more competition for VOTY this year, which is why Anaconda was snubbed. 
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What is this damn mess??! 
I get it Anaconda was everywhere. But Nicki sis you sound immature this time. It's just a damn moonman. You don't have to go all out meltdown. And did you really have to let it all out on social media? Not a single feud or rage can be fixed on social media. Roar was even snubbed last year and Katy handled it a lot better. Stop with it 'cause you are making yourself look more of a loser.
And Taylor sis I see your point why you replied. You may nit be the direct aim of some Nicki tweets but it definitely hit the notes right into pointing towards you. But Taylor sis my queen you don't have to reply to every tweet about you. Like, just let it pass. Or at least reply privately to nicki sis if you think she's hating on you. Not on twitter.
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Originally posted by alestevens
Black females arent struggling, not with nominations nor wins
Females with the most wins in VMA history:
1. Madonna: 20
2. Beyoncé: 18
3. Lady GaGa: 13
4. Janet Jackson: 9
5. P!nk: 6
5. Britney Spears: 6
7. Katy Perry: 5
7. Missy Elliot: 5
Out of the only eight female winners in VMA history to win at least 5, 3 have been black, that's nearly half of the list
Out of them, the most nominated are:
• Madonna: 68
• Beyoncé: 49
• Janet Jackson: 39
• Missy Elliot: 39
• Britney Spears: 27
• Lady GaGa: 26
• Katy Perry: 24
• P!nk: 15
So the Top 4 is basically the biggest female artist of all time followed by 3 black females. So they definitely do not struggle with nominations |
Looking at the last few VMA's, they clearly have had a major set back since Missy and Janet dominated the VMA as Beyonce (and Nicki? Even thought she isn't on the list) are the only black women dominating the VMA's opposed to Katy, Lady G, Pink, Taylor etc.
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Originally posted by JClarkSTAN
Nominating only 2 black females in major categories is not true inclusion and does not absolve something from being racist.
Anaconda made a huge impact and the fact that it was ignored when another video that made the same type of impact was nominated AND won last year is pretty fishy and should not be dismissed.
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Anaconda was snubbed. Yeah, i agree that it deserved to be nominated, but the snub has nothing to do with race, it was just snubbed period, like some of our faves have been multiple times except that they weren't complaining
And lol at "Nominating only 2 black females in major categories is not true inclusion". There are 5 nominees in each category, are you proposing they leave out other nominees (even if they have huge and eventful music videos) just for the sake of including black females?
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Originally posted by chilicheese01
You legitimately think there is racism at play? Then why are Beyonce, Kendrick Lamar (twice), and Bruno Mars nominated for VOTY? And why are Bruno Mars, Kendrick Lamar, and The Weeknd nominated for Male Video? And why are Beyonce and Nicki Minaj nominated for Female Video?
Anaconda didn't have a lasting effect like Wrecking Ball had, and there was simply more competition for VOTY this year, which is why Anaconda was snubbed. |
Yes I legitimately think that if Nicki was white then she would have a slot in that VOTY category right now.
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Originally posted by YSL
"Clearly should have been nominated" according to who? You and Nicki? That's an opinion you and few others share because I didn't even know the song had a video.
And once again, you're missing the point. She didn't even make it about race until Taylor said something and try to turn it on the white media and how she wasn't even referring to her when clearly all the tweets prior to that were directed at a female in the categories she wasn't nominated in. If it's not Taylor, she's shading her collaborators Ariana and Jessie but that's obviously unlikely since she falls in that nomination.
Were this coming from Azealia, I would absolutely agree with you, being the woman (albeit bat **** crazy) sticks to how she feels. Nicki on the other hand is hardly vocal about racial topics and kept silent through recent racial problems. Like, oh yeah, now you want to talk about the white media and racism when you weren't nominated for something for a stupid VMA but when black people are being shot, you stay silent as ****? FOH. |
If you can't see that it was about race as soon as FM was mentioned in that manner then what I'm saying is useless. Nicki made about race to begin with and only elaborated on it when Taylor made her commnets
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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Anyone y'all know WHAT is the FUNNIEST thing?
Nicki's lack of logic + knowledge about this entire situation. She can't make up her damn mind.
First she argues about body image.
Then Taylor she does a 180 and talks about racism in the media. It makes no sense.
Also when Taylor defended herself Nicki replied really nicely with a "I love you too!" and all was well.
Then she got all pissed off at the racist Ryan Seacrest tweet (which Taylor had no part in).
Okay whatever. But then she started publicly retweeted stuff dragging Taylor as if SHE was the one who wrote the Seacrest tweet when she had absolutely NOTHING to do with it.
Taylor said ZILCH and Nicki went from "I love you too but you should speak up on this" to "Taylor owes me an apology and needs to stop exploiting white media and putting down black female artists" while Taylor said NOTHING.
And she even brought ****ing Spotify vs Tidal into it out of NOWHERE while Taylor stayed completely mum.
It's mind blowing now that I think about it. She wasn't thinking straight today.
The analysis that Nicki had no other choice after Taylor called her out, pulled the race card, and threw Taylor into a pit of eager, blinded SJW's is ENTIRELY 100% accurate.
And I hate Taylor.
edit: the typos + grammar in this post. I was trying to get my point across before losing my train of thought
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