[gloamingtheplain]

Originally posted by J a y

Anything for press.

Which is the point of Tidal.

[Afferty]

[Tropez]

Originally posted by Talented Tenth

Did people complain about Steve Jobs, Bill Gates, the Waltons (who own Walmart), the owners of McDonald's, etc., getting richer?

These are not the same situation.

Bill Gates was not like we software engineers are not making enough money from selling software. So here's a service that offers higher profits for us, with a higher price for you.

Which wouldn't make sense today because well windows can now be freely updated.

The owners of McDonald's were not like please subscribe to our chain for a monthly price since the value of a burger is being marginalized in today's world. Like no.

Those are people and company's that made a product that was innovative at the time. A popular software program, a fast food chain, and national discount store. They get riches because those were their intellectual property that appeared at the right time before anyone was doing it.

[*.Digambar.*]

Originally posted by Tropez

These are not the same situation.

Bill Gates was not like we software engineers are not making enough money from selling software. So here's a service that offers higher profits for us, with a higher price for you.

Which wouldn't make sense today because well windows can now be freely updated.

The owners of McDonald's were not like please subscribe to our chain for a monthly price since the value of a burger is being marginalized in today's world. Like no.

Those are people and company's that made a product that was innovative at the time. A popular software program, a fast food chain, and national discount store. They get riches because those were their intellectual property that appeared at the right time before anyone was doing it.

clocked!

[tell_me_a_lie]

[Frozen99]

That was my argument as well. Billionaires and multi-millionaires getting even richer.

Finally an opinion of hers, I can agree with.

[mandym]

I agree with her

[Ke$hamon]

Of course it's about the money, and the only ones who can't see that are the fanbases whose artists are participating in this project.
I don't blame them, if you have 20$ to spend on TIDAL every month it's your choice to throw your money out of the window when there are cheaper options... You do whatever you do. And I'll keep ignoring this gimmick.

Well said, Marina.

[Thomasuxx]

Tell them queen

[umich]

Originally posted by Lorelei

Marina Diamandis ‏@MarinasDiamonds 1m1 minute ago
Also, the hashtag #TidalforALL? As if everyone in the world will be getting Tidal for free on our new government music program. Lol

Oh yas, Marina, spill that scalding tea

[katykater]

Originally posted by rbautz

Do we anything know about their contracts with the labels?

Do we anything know about Tidal's supporting of alternative artists?

Do we know anything besides the price for the customers?

They want to sell it, it's up to them to prove that it's more than making the 1 percenters richer or feeding the artists having a label with other artists signed on it. I wasn't talking about labels as in the major labels.

The public, the press,... will always has an opinion, if necessary based on rumours or assumptions presented as the truth because there are no other reliable sources contesting it. Once the public takes a negative stance, it isn't easy to change that.

In politics badly handled PR can put off or insult the public into panick mode and cancelled or delayed construction projects for decades. Or made us Belgians literally setting concrete bridges on fire.

To use an argument of those campaigning against construction projects: We haven't seen 1 picture or textual reference to an alternative, indie, new,... artist (not 1 percenter). The rich were so busy grabbing money that they don't even have thought of packaging/disguising it. Greed can't be more blatant than this, there aren't much corporations out there this blatantly.

When they start showing that they do something for the 99% too. It will be seen as damage control. Putting lipstick on a pig won't change it's exposed true nature.

It won't change the payout rates between labels and artists.

[fanbrits]

i love how open she is about it
and she has some good points

[prézli]

[Roberto]

I see no lies here. This **** is completely unnecessary, but coming from Jay-Z, it's not really shocked.

[MikeFenty]

Arcade Fire aren't respected artist? They barely have any endorsement deals.. They aren't necessarily "money hungr" nor business people and same could be said about J.Cole.

[Drowned_World]

Queen Marina knows the tea.

[Mick]

No lies detected. She reminds me so much of my fave it's crazy.

[Lucas32]

Originally posted by King Maxx

At the end of the day, my faves will continue to become richer while she does whatever she does.

Originally posted by King Maxx

Everyone coming for me. The point is that she just seems jealous that they are going to be making more money. Why hate on people trying to make more money for themselves? I'm sure she wouldn't be talking if she got that 3% share.

Originally posted by satellites.™

Well she's struggling for a reason. Maybe if she focused on the BUSINESS aspect of her career more she could be apart of the "exclusive" group.

Originally posted by KangBey

Best post in this thread! Notice how no one of relevance or A list has hated on Tidal. Its all these Z listers looking for attention.

Literally so ashamed for these posts.

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She's so right. The press conference was such a shitshow. The one thing that they supposedly cared about was giving power and money to the artists yet they said not a single word how they are gonna pay more to the artists and support upcoming artists.
So far it seems like the only artists who will profit off off Tidal will be the owners.

[MikeFenty]

Originally posted by Lucas32

Literally so ashamed for these posts.

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She's so right. The press conference was such a shitshow. The one thing that they supposedly cared about was giving power and money to the artists yet they said not a single word how they are gonna pay more to the artists and support upcoming artists.
So far it seems like the only artists who will profit off off Tidal will be the owners.

Some artists have equity stakes in the company — is it possible for independent artists to get equity in the company? How is that determined? SCHLOGEL: Absolutely. We've set up a stock appreciation rights program already — it's nascent, but it's in place. And as we go along, we're working with the artist founders and figuring out how exactly to grow and evolve it going forward, and figuring out how we will set up this program and send out that messaging, especially to independent artists.

How difficult is it for an indie artist to put their music onto Tidal? Services like Spotify can be very difficult, if not on a label or going through a digital distributor. Does the same apply for Tidal? SCHLOGEL: There is that difficulty, I know, with other services. I'm not a musician, but some of my friends are and they tell me "I had to go through an aggregator, I had to wait six months for this and that and nobody paid attention to me." And these are all things that we hear and that are very personal to us, and that we are addressing. The truth of the matter is, we took control of this company a few weeks ago. We're still a very young, nascent company and we have a lot of initiatives that we're working on, especially when it comes to indie talent, emerging talent, giving people visibility, giving people a forum to put their music up and giving them control of their distribution and their creative content, how they want to communicate with their fans. Those are all initiatives, and that one specifically is something that we're working on addressing. JAY Z: As well as having a discovery program, where established artists can take things that they like and just showcase them. It's all about paying it forward and working very cyclically and discovering new music. Imagine if Win from Arcade Fire puts up an artist that he discovered in Haiti — and he had this idea, actually, I don't want to step on his idea — and through the curation process gets something really good and introduces it to the world. And then the world is inspired by that sound.

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[ReginaPhalange]

The poor are really coming out of the woods over a measly $20 if you don't like what Tidal is offering, don't sign up