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Poll: Beyonce vs Britney: Stronger singles discography?
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Britney Spears
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Beyonce
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Originally posted by Goten21
Why did this turn into a "Which artist had better success overall" thread?
Britney has a better singles catalogue. Next
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Albums too she sold the most! She is never going to match her!
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Originally posted by Trent W
Ok Beyonce is gonna sell 200 copies per year more than Britney I'm ok with that lmfao!
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A few millions more actually!
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Originally posted by Haribo
A few millions more actually!
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Originally posted by lonnie
So you think Bey winning that billboard award was solely for her achievements on the charts 
Doesn't she like have just 5 no.1s?
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Yes. That's how it works. Check the criteria for how they make the decision. I'm not being naive. Especially when the leading publication in music made the decision. She was named it based off of her albums as well.
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Originally posted by QueenBLadyG
Sure. Those "excuses"...  |
Those are REAL EXCUSES. You are sooooo damn dump when it comes to charts. Radio was the biggest part of chart formula in early 2000's. Britney didn't had radio support or physically releases in most of it cases.
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Originally posted by lonnie
Let's not pretend that people don't remember BOMT, it was an event, a symbolic one in fact changing the then music direction from more urban songs dominating, reintroducing bubblegum pop into the industry.
And it's truly laughable that you would compare a song released in 2011 when songs were doing 10M plus worldwide to an era where single sales were nothing less than pathetic.
One more night sold loads more than Crazy in Love and it doesn't make it the stronger hit.
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That would be the Spice Girls.
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Originally posted by lonnie
Bey's solo album was released in 2003, not 2013 and DiL and Bday sold 9M and 6.5M together to bring a total of 15.5M which is half of Bey's total album sales, just like Brit and considering Bey is more active now then I don't know why you make it seem like people just buy her music for nostalgia, like she doesn't perfom them every chance she gets.
Brit sold more albums because people prefer her discography generally to Bey's.
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DIL sold more and B'Day a bit less actually. These album sales are great. Why? If they ain't great, that means ITZ's and Blackout's are very bad.
No, Britney sold more albums more than a decade ago because it was the the market's peak and because teens bought them.
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Originally posted by Haribo
Beyoncé's been outselling Britney since 2003. And at the Blackout part which was a flop (3 million for a 2007 album is bad). |
Then why didn't 4 outsell Circus?
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The critical acclaim, grammy award winning, airplay, better streaming, still selling discography.
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Originally posted by lonnie
Then why didn't 4 outsell Circus?
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Sorry, I didn't know Circus and 4 were released on the same year.
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Originally posted by Robinladen
Can ColdFire bring out receipts about the Greatest Hits catalogue album sales? Because if people are buying Baby One More time, for example on GH:MP, why would they still buy the single?  Beyonce has no greatest hits album that will affect the sales of her hit singles. We'll also have to take into consideration if those two greatest hits albums are selling well or not.
I already said this. Pop has evolved since 1999, but can you say Beyonce's genre has evolved as significantly since her debut? Call Baby One More Time dated, for example, and unlistenable today, but would that change how memorable it is? How it defined an era? Call it nostalgia or something else shady, but do not come for how iconic it is. |
You can't make a such a blanket statement about a genre of music. Do you even listen to all R&B? Things have changed a lot since the debut of DC and Beyoncé went solo. If you did you wouldn't even say something like that. Brit and Bey have had quite the impact.
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Originally posted by lonnie
Then why didn't 4 outsell Circus?
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Circus 2008
2008's IASF did.
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Originally posted by lonnie
Perfoming in one city isn't the same as perfoming in tens of them in each continent  |
How is people flying from across the world to see you any different than the artist flying across the world to see the fans?
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Originally posted by lonnie
And how is IASF bigger than any Brit era when it hasn't sold a third of what Brit's debut did?
The delusion Is REAL |
The debut album that I specifically excluded as Bey wasn't even a solo artist yet that was released in the album-buying decade? Do you really need to use that album, and the other that was released before Bey's debut to make a point? Why not use Britney albums released after 2003 as that is when Bey debuted?
Dangerously in Love (2003) - 12M worldwide
In The Zone (2003) - 10M worldwide
B'Day (2006) - 8M worldwide
Blackout (2007) - 3.1M worldwide
I Am... Sasha Fierce (2008) - 8M worldwide
Circus (2008) - 4.5M worldwide
4 (2011) - 3.3M worldwide
Femme Fatale (2011) - 3M worldwide (and that's being generous)
BEYONCE (2013) - 3.7M worldwide
Britney Jean (2013) -
Because you'd have no argument. 
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Originally posted by Robinladen
Can ColdFire bring out receipts about the Greatest Hits catalogue album sales? Because if people are buying Baby One More time, for example on GH:MP, why would they still buy the single? Beyonce has no greatest hits album that will affect the sales of her hit singles. We'll also have to take into consideration if those two greatest hits albums are selling well or not.
I already said this. Pop has evolved since 1999, but can you say Beyonce's genre has evolved as significantly since her debut? Call Baby One More Time dated, for example, and unlistenable today, but would that change how memorable it is? How it defined an era? Call it nostalgia or something else shady, but do not come for how iconic it is. |
GH:MP is Britney's best catalog seller in general and if we exclude compilations from it, ...Baby One More Time is her best catalog studio album seller. Also The Singles Collection is good catalog seller. 1k (single) + 400 copies (...BOMT album) + 1,100 (compilations) = 2,5k for artist that didn't tour through the US since 2011, did any promo performances since 2011 etc...
She isn't clearly that bad catalog seller as Haribo trying to say.
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Originally posted by Haribo
DIL sold more and B'Day a bit less actually. These album sales are great. Why? If they ain't great, that means ITZ's and Blackout's are very bad.
No, Britney sold more albums more than a decade ago because it was the the market's peak and because teens bought them.
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Like everyone was selling as well as Britney back in the day.
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Originally posted by Robinladen
Can ColdFire bring out receipts about the Greatest Hits catalogue album sales? Because if people are buying Baby One More time, for example on GH:MP, why would they still buy the single? Beyonce has no greatest hits album that will affect the sales of her hit singles. We'll also have to take into consideration if those two greatest hits albums are selling well or not.
I already said this. Pop has evolved since 1999, but can you say Beyonce's genre has evolved as significantly since her debut? Call Baby One More Time dated, for example, and unlistenable today, but would that change how memorable it is? How it defined an era? Call it nostalgia or something else shady, but do not come for how iconic it is. |
It's not selling 1K per week. 
But if the song is that memorable, then why aren't people buying it more than Crazy in Love (and than many Beyoncé's singles, tbh)?
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Originally posted by PULSE.
That would the Spice Girls.
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The spice girls came before Brit and bubblegum pop did dominate but was later knocked off by urban and hence I used REINTRODUCED.
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Britney by far.
"Baby One More Time," "Oops I Did It Again," "Don't Let Me Be The Last To Know," "Slave 4 U," "Boys," "Toxic," "Everytime," "Gimme More," "Radar." "Circus," "Hold It Against Me," "Work Bitch," and "Perfume" are all 10/10 tracks.
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Originally posted by lonnie
Then why didn't 4 outsell Circus?
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why didnt In The Zone outsell Dangerously In Love?
why didnt Blackout outsell B'Day?
why didnt Circus outsell IASF?
why didnt Femme Fatale outsell 4?
why didnt Britney Jean outsell The Visual Album?
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Originally posted by Robinladen
Like everyone was selling as well as Britney back in the day. |
But she isn't selling much now so... 
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