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Discussion: Why isn't P!nk considered the Queen of Pop?
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Originally posted by Liafen
Reading comprehension is a first.  She has all the things ATRL thinks is enough to be worthy of the Queen of Pop title, but yet she isn't called that. That's why was the thread made.  |
Because she lacks something?
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Originally posted by jackieshann
Um isn't it obvious? Something that makes the song memorable.
'I kissed a girl and I liked it' - this lyric is ICONIC like the 'here comes the thrilllerrr' line. Katy helped popularize lesbianism in popular culture.
Fireworks is an immortal hit just like Mariah's christmas song; every 4th of July the song will be played.
The nerve of P!nk stans in here calling me delusional. Ironic how P!nk came into the game trying to play off the stereotype of a popstar yet she is the definition of a generic popstar.
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Britney is the standard of what a popstar should be like (according to society, and in my honest opinion. I'm not a stan btw).
P!nk has short hair and has plenty of curves, and sings pop-rock music, which can be considered sombre. Generic? 
Look at her.
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Originally posted by jackieshann
No it isn't
Nothing wrong being a generic popstar. You're implying Katy is generic and I accept that but Katy's first album has proven she's capable of making good pop music that isn't generic. Katy has a great tone and she sings with conviction so stop coming for Katy, the topic is about Pink  |
And P!nk can't?
Again don't come for one of your faves biggest inspirations - Katy has been doing a lighter and a more pop version of P!nk since she has come into the scene.
You're acting like Katy is superior in ANY way
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
No, most of this board doesn't even know P!nk exists...
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They are just jealous of her strong arms and legs that are bigger than the twinks' everybody stays drooling over on Celebria.
Ofc they won't stan Pink. 
M!ss and I'm Not Dead are great pop albums poor everybody...
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Originally posted by Grenn-O
reread. She was saying that if we applied the same things of what makes somebody the queen of pop in ATRL standards, then pink would easily be the queen of pop... but pink isn't much of a media celebrity hoe to have ATRL's attention. she's recognized by the GP, not by ATRL (which is a very good thing).
nobody says that pink should be the queen of pop. madonna is.
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Originally posted by Liafen
Reading comprehension is a first. She has all the things ATRL thinks is enough to be worthy of the Queen of Pop title, but yet she isn't called that. That's why was the thread made. |
I mean, the fact that several of us have to break this down for some is...
But thanks guys for explaining it Barney style. 
Once again, simple stated, based off of ATRL logic, P!nk should be the QoP.
Agreed? Yes. Great!
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Originally posted by J a y
Britney is the standard of what a popstar should be like (according to society, and in my honest opinion. I'm not a stan btw).
P!nk has short hair and has plenty of curves, sings pop-rock music, which can be considered sombre. Generic?
Look at her. |
Obviously, just another popstar with short hair, angry look  , muscled and curvy body with a raspy voice who can sing live while doing CRAZY acrobatics and dancing.
EVERYONE can do that, duhh
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Originally posted by Braz
They are just jealous of her strong arms and legs that are bigger than the twinks' everybody stays drooling over on Celebria.
Ofc they won't stan Pink.
M!ss and I'm Not Dead are great pop albums poor everybody...
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I'm ****!ng done. 
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Originally posted by P!nkism
Obviously, just another popstar with short hair, angry look , muscled and curvy body with a raspy voice who can sing live while doing CRAZY acrobatics and dancing.
EVERYONE can do that, duhh |
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Originally posted by AHemsworth
I mean, the fact that several of us have to break this down for some is...
But thanks guys for explaining it Barney style.
Once again, simple stated, based off of ATRL logic, P!nk should be the QoP.
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I know you're trolling. But.
Madonna. Bigger albums, bigger songs, bigger tours, more iconic moments, all respected publications call her that way. For starters. And there are many more girls before Pink to even be considered. 
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Originally posted by alrightsir
You brought Katy into the coversation saying she's experimantal while P!nk is basic. |
I was giving an example of a generic popstar experimenting a little.
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Originally posted by J a y
Britney is the standard of what a popstar should be like (according to society, and in my honest opinion. I'm not a stan btw).
P!nk has short hair and has plenty of curves, sings pop-rock music, which can be considered sombre. Generic?
Look at her. |
Yeah in a superficial level she did try to play off the stereotype but I'm talking about sound not image. I thought you would've comprehended that.
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Braz
Last year Billboard did refer to her as the QoP. Or at least they called her the biggest popstar in the world.
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Originally posted by P!nkism
Search for P!nk's impact and legacy thread with receipts from critiques and music professionals, instead of being a follower of ATRL'S cringeworthy measures for impact
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Originally posted by jackieshann
I was giving an example of a generic popstar experimenting a little.
Yeah in a superficial level she did try to play off the stereotype but I'm talking about sound not image. I thought you would've comprehended that.
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When she started doing pop rock - no one else was doing it
Not her fault Kelly, Avril, Katy and many others jumped on the ship
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Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi
I know you're trolling. But.
Madonna. Bigger albums, bigger songs, bigger tours, more iconic moments, all respected publications call her that way. For starters. And there are many more girls before Pink to even be considered. |
I'm not trolling. I'm asking a serious question and I don't know why it bothers you. We can agree to disagree you know. I don't know if you feel like I'm subliminally trying to shade you or your fave, but if you think that's the case then I'm shading my own fave and some of the Hive as well. It's really NOT that deep.
So now, you're saying, void all other pop girls, Madonna is the QoP? Ok. You can have that.
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Originally posted by EloiseheartsRiRi
I know you're trolling. But.
Madonna. Bigger albums, bigger songs, bigger tours, more iconic moments, all respected publications call her that way. For starters. And there are many more girls before Pink to even be considered. |
Yet they call Katy the Queen of Pop. AGain, that's what the discussion is about. Why do other, less successful pop stars being called the Queen of Pop but not Pink.
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How does Pink fits these:
an aim of appealing to a general audience, rather than to a particular sub-culture or ideology
an emphasis on craftsmanship rather than formal "artistic" qualities
an emphasis on recording, production, and technology, over live performance
a tendency to reflect existing trends rather than progressive developments
much pop music is intended to encourage dancing, or it uses dance-oriented beats or rhythms
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And I will just state for the record, as a person who isn't even a fan of P!nk, that if the girls had to line up to see who should where that title, sans Madonna, P!nk should be toward the front of the line and not the back.
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Originally posted by jackieshann
Yeah in a superficial level she did try to play off the stereotype but I'm talking about sound not image. I thought you would've comprehended that.
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Pop-rock isn't generic. If it was, Katy Perry wouldn't have been forcing this pop image down our throats. Remember Katheryn Hudson back in the day? She was a lot like P!nk, listened to rock and wore dark eye-liner. What happened?
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Member Since: 8/10/2012
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Originally posted by jackieshann
I was giving an example of a generic popstar experimenting a little.
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Then I can list you tons of songs from P!nk which are at least as much "experimental as Dark Horse".
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