[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by Dark_Lorde

Performance is part of music especially considering the fact she is a performance artist.

Actually no, that's not how that works, sorry.

[Gangsta4alife]

Duhhh I stan for Queen Janet, MJ etc.....

[♚ PRiNCE HiGH ♚]

Originally posted by 4seldemari

Yes. Stars Dance

[Dark_Lorde]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

Actually no, that's not how that works, sorry.

Actually yes, that is how it works. Why? Because I made the thread and I can say what I meant when I used "musical risk"

This is my thread, and in my thread I can define whatever I want as "musical risk" because I started the discussion, not you.

If you want to create a discussion that focuses around what YOU want to talk about. You're free to do so but while we are on my thread, i'll clear it up one more time.

I believe performance is part of music especially when the artist labels themselves as a performance artist. Feel free (as the creator of this thread) to talk about risk taking of your faves under ANY aspect of their career, even tho it might not specifically be, listed in the title.

[Regina George]

Originally posted by 4seldemari

Yes. Stars Dance

Girl

[Ashrock]

Originally posted by Ari Auris

I mean Taylor's taken some risks but they're really so miniscule they're not worth mentioning

she came from this



to this



but yea you re right, the style, the lyrics & the sounds of both songs are really similar, they re not worth mentionning

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by Dark_Lorde

Actually yes, that is how it works. Why? Because I made the thread and I can say what I meant when I used "musical risk"

This is my thread, and in my thread I can define whatever I want as "musical risk" because I started the discussion, not you.

If you want to create a discussion that focuses around what YOU want to talk about. You're free to do so but while we are on my thread, i'll clear it up one more time.

I believe performance is part of music especially when the artist labels themselves as a performance artist. Feel free (as the creator of this thread) to talk about risk taking of tour faves under ANY aspect of their career, even tho it might not specifically be, listed in the title.

Dictionaries exist, sorry. A tomato isn't an apple b/c you made a thread about it.

[$AVE DAT MONEY]

Originally posted by Ashrock

she came from this



to this



but yea you re right, the style, the lyrics & the sounds of both songs are really similar, they re not worth mentionning

but it wasn't very "risky" to go from country pop to top 40 pop. i mean taylor's sales may go either way this era by changing to pop but her music is not risky. its still more risky than stars dance tho.

[Dark_Lorde]

Originally posted by Ashrock

she came from this



to this



but yea you re right, the style, the lyrics & the sounds of both songs are really similar, they re not worth mentionning

I think it's worth mentioning.

Everyone should be able to share what they think is risky about their faves.

If you have some unknown taylor risk, share it. There's nothing more important than knowledge and I'd personally love to know about it - chances are i'll use it in later discussions.

[Vespertine]

Yes of course my faves take huge risks. Little Things in particular is a landmark statement (probably the biggest event in art music since the Exploding Plastic Inevitable) in badness. No other artist would ever dare.

[Dark_Lorde]

Originally posted by Vespertine

Yes of course my faves take huge risks. Little Things in particular is a landmark statement (probably the biggest event in art music since the Exploding Plastic Inevitable) in badness. No other artist would ever dare.

If that's how you feel, you certainly have the right to share it.

[kylespearsfenty]

"Sell-out" albums are risky because you're changing your audience.

[alestevens]

There are 2 different types of risk:

-Real risks, like the ones Madonna took that could potentially end her career
-Risks that are only risks for that certain artist but wouldnt be a risk if anyone else did it: For example, Nicki & Taylor going the pop route. They are risking losing their core fanbase. In fact, Nicki is still fixing the damage that the PF:RR era caused between her and her core fanbase, as much as i enjoyed that era

[ezra]

Yes Lady Gaga is a huge risk taker. The biggest of them all proved by science tbh.

Also totally disagree with the OP saying Erotica or American Life are "risky" or "edgy". Neither of which is true. Sex is really banal and overdone and exploiting tragedy is ... well, you can finish that sentence. But "risky" is not something I'd attribute to either of those eras in my opinion.

[Forevermore]

Originally posted by Waffles O'Brien

*In this thread people list their generic favs and pretend they took risks*

!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thank you for speaking the ****ing truth.

[Dark_Lorde]

Originally posted by ezra.jones

Yes Lady Gaga is a huge risk taker. The biggest of them all proved by science tbh.

Also totally disagree with the OP saying Erotica or American Life are "risky" or "edgy". Neither of which is true. Sex is really banal and overdone and exploiting tragedy is ... well, you can finish that sentence. But "risky" is not something I'd attribute to either of those eras in my opinion.

I would love to see the science. I would love to read about how Lady gaga scientifically takes risk and how science proved that, by all means please go ahead and post the evidence of that claim. It would be a good read for me.

Sex wasn't banal or overdone when Erotica was released. I'm not sure if you actually read the OP to disagree with it but i suggest going back and reading it, It clearly explains to social context under which erotica was released. I feel like a proper reading of the OP may help you gain an understanding of music history that I feel like you're missing, given the fact you're applying to same social climate as today to an album released in the 90's.

Exploiting a tragedy? By the stage erotica was released Madonna had lost her best friend (and roommate) to aids as well as another friend and music collaborator. She had also since the 80's taken part in, organised and donated to several aids related charities and at one stage even started a rumour that she herself was HIV positive so the worlds spotlight would focus on it.

It's the epitome of ignorance for anyone to suggest that Madonna was "exploiting" anything given the fact she was directly affected by it and often selflessly campaigned for the cause.

Anyways, if that's the opinion you hold you're certainly entitled to it, even if it is historically incorrect and even if evidence points towards the exact opposite.

[DonnieDarko]

Although I can agree that Madonna takes risks sometimes (not with albums mentioned in the op though - for me at least), I think that Lady Gaga is also a big risk takes and Aaliyah was one too.

[Homebrand]

Originally posted by DonnieDarko

Although I can agree that Madonna takes risks sometimes (not with albums mentioned in the op though - for me at least), I think that Lady Gaga is also a big risk takes and Aaliyah was one too.

This is true, Nothing sounded like One in a Million when it was released, timbo and Aaliyah really pushed RnB boundaries (i think everyone already knows this tho)

I think ''Aaliyah'' the album was more of a risk tho.

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Rihanna really only took her biggest risk with RR tbh, going from being the it girl of pop in 2007/2008 to releasing something like RR the following year was a huge risk. Espcecially releasing songs like Hard, R101, Russian roulette and Te Amo.

Even tho she went to pop the following year after with Loud but still

[EnigmaPopstar]

Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf

Rihanna has done everything but take a risk almost her entire career.

This. The delusion is real.

[ezra]

Originally posted by Dark_Lorde

I would love to see the science. I would love to read about how Lady gaga scientifically takes risk and how science proved that, by all means please go ahead and post the evidence of that claim. It would be a good read for me.

Sex wasn't banal or overdone when Erotica was released. I'm not sure if you actually read the OP to disagree with it but i suggest going back and reading it, It clearly explains to social context under which erotica was released. I feel like a proper reading of the OP may help you gain an understanding of music history that I feel like you're missing, given the fact you're applying to same social climate as today to an album released in the 90's.

Exploiting a tragedy? By the stage erotica was released Madonna had lost her best friend (and roommate) to aids as well as another friend and music collaborator. She had also since the 80's taken part in, organised and donated to several aids related charities and at one stage even started a rumour that she herself was HIV positive so the worlds spotlight would focus on it.

It's the epitome of ignorance for anyone to suggest that Madonna was "exploiting" anything given the fact she was directly affected by it and often selflessly campaigned for the cause.

Anyways, if that's the opinion you hold you're certainly entitled to it, even if it is historically incorrect and even if evidence points towards the exact opposite.

Everything in the OP was something I already had read before and knew. Nothing to really comprehend. And none of it changed my opinion and view that neither Erotica or American Life are really that risky at all.

Maybe the Sex book was risky for Madonna. But even that's debatable. I mean, is it really risky for a woman who marketed herself based on her sex appeal and looks to make a book...about sex? It's certainly something but risky is not what I'd call that. American Life was certainly not risky and most people would agree on that.

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Anyway, I'd say the main pop girl risk takers are Rihanna, Lady Gaga, Janet Jackson and I agree as well with Aaliyah being mentioned. Not Madonna, though.