[blaggot]

Originally posted by swissman

I don't think it's the ass itself but the way she's spreading her legs and the general tackiness of it which makes it seem so lowbrow.

again, it's nothing we haven't seen before. it's literally this photo but with better hair/makeup/wardrobe and from the back:

http://www.ihiphop.com/wp-content/up...2011/01/bg.jpg

the tackiness of it is subjective, what you see as tacky I see as a woman taking control of her sexuality

[Bang Up]

Originally posted by Justinintime

Was Bey's Partition video "Artistic"? Her stage performances when she's only clad in a thong??? What's the difference

Lord, let's not get started with Bey. That woman had every feminist blogger pissed the hell OFF when she released all those videos. There were dozens of "think pieces" about her not being a feminist.

[Reinvention]

Originally posted by BabyCantYouSee

I hate when celebs give such great attention to negativity. Accept the fact that not everyone is going to agree with you - they are celebrities after all. It just shrieks insecurity imo.

TBH. Gaga really needs to stop. Like I know these people are invested in their careers but you just need to zip it. Lashing out at the media has never helped anyone.

[Robbyyy]

Originally posted by Bang Up

http://www.capitalfm.com/artists/nic...ws/role-model/

Literally all that took was a five second Google search.

And like I said, it doesn't make her a bad role model, I'm just coming at this the way most people would.

Here she speaks on being a role model PERFECTLY @2:30:



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YTWV-3gWMpk

[Flare]

Originally posted by Bang Up

But the media says "trashy" to those girls as well? She's not a special snowflake, all girls face misogyny. And as was mentioned, there is a difference between model and artist.

Not really. Nobody makes a deal out of these swimsuit models unless it's praise. Freaking Kate Upton who was a big deal in 2013 is on that magazine. She went from regular model to movie role, no problem at all and people praise her still.

And the fact you're boxing in a female to one role only while male artist, models, and others are allowed to do it all, unquestioned.

Misogyny all through this thread.

[Topherfy]

Swimsuit models wearing swimsuits in standard positions you would normally see at the beach versus a rapper in a g string in a very provocative position for a single cover...

Yeah, this isn't a double standard. This is Nicki overdoing it and lashing out because people don't agree with her picture.

[cloudinthesky]

Originally posted by Dinosauer

TBH. Gaga really needs to stop. Like I know these people are invested in their careers but you just need to zip it. Lashing out at the media has never helped anyone.

Mess

[Justinintime]

Originally posted by swissman

Uh, they are about 1000x more artistic than Nicki's cover.

The lighting, the costume, the staging, the concept all are much more artistic. This is not even a question.

So because there's lighting and costumes with the nudity it's more acceptable to you? I see.

[swissman]

Originally posted by blaggot

again, it's nothing we haven't seen before. it's literally this photo but with better hair/makeup/wardrobe and from the back:

http://www.ihiphop.com/wp-content/up...2011/01/bg.jpg

the tackiness of it is subjective, what you see as tacky I see as a woman taking control of her sexuality

Well that image is just as tacky, and if it was on a single cover people would react similarly.

I agree tackiness is subjective, but that is really just a matter of your taste level. I also agree it can be seen as taking control of your sexuality, but I feel that there are MANY more ways to do this outcome. Most people would agree it looks tacky, unless you think Walmart is fashion.

[Boomer]

Not Kate Upton's tittay basically hanging out.

Nicki's right.

[Bang Up]

Originally posted by Robbyyy

Here she speaks on being a role model PERFECTLY @2:30:

The video doesn't work, but I'm assuming she's talking about not being a role model? Which means she flip-flopped to fit her current narrative?

Either way, she's still a role model. It's like when Rihanna said she didn't wanna be a role model... Well, does it matter? You're a role model to millions of young girls either way.

[PrettyHurts]

i'm so over women's bodies being controversial
it's an ass everyone who cares

[Gangsta4alife]

Originally posted by Flare

You've missed the point if you think it's about race. I've already seen 3+ people comment on "white models" or "race" when neither was mentioned or implied by Nicki. Not even in her twitter favorites (where she usually let's the barb add extras) did she imply anything about race.

I've never missed the point or drawn that conclusion about it being about race reread my posts. What i'm saying is due to Nicki making a post about hypocrisy it lead to a slight spin off in discussion where other somewhat relevant points where brought up. It's not that they didn't get the original meaning of the post nicki made

[swissman]

Originally posted by Justinintime

So because there's lighting and costumes with the nudity it's more acceptable to you? I see.

Exactly.

Is acceptable to see a completely nude statue? Yes. Why? Because it's art. It took work and thought and process.

Just getting in front of a white background, spreading your legs with a few strings over your crack is pretty base-level creativity.

Basically it's the difference between Burlesque and common strippers.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Robbyyy

Here she speaks on being a role model PERFECTLY @2:30:

Take the "s" off https

[Stevie]

Originally posted by Siya

Rihanna had way more good press than bad press.

Because she looked great and sheer dresses are nothing we haven't seen before. On the other hand, you don't see covers like Nicki's unless you're rummaging through cheap ****ography DVDs. Nicki deserves the backlash.

[Flare]

It's so crazy how people in this thread are directly stating females are confined to one position and one position only and they should never branch out.

Nicki can't be a model because she's a singer. Oh wait, she's a rapper. Guess she can't even be on her own single covers anymore. Should she even go on tour? That might change her position to entertainment act and we can't have her doing all that while staying in the kitchen making sandwiches.

[BeyonceHatesMe]

I get where Nicki is going, but the photos she used in comparison were wrongly chosen.
Given she had chosen photos of White women or black women (assuming this isn't about race) with more developed asses, maybe people would see her point.

You can't equate what she did, with women in swim suit adds wearing swin suits, and sports magazines that are meant to be sexy.

But then again, Nicki might be wearing what she's wearing because of the song.

It's complicated.

[Robbyyy]

Originally posted by Bang Up

The video doesn't work, but I'm assuming she's talking about not being a role model? Which means she flip-flopped to fit her current narrative?

Either way, she's still a role model. It's like when Rihanna said she didn't wanna be a role model... Well, does it matter? You're a role model to millions of young girls either way.

So because she has younger fans she's not allowed to show skin or be sexual? That goes for Rih & Bey as well. That's not fair at all, especially when male artists are looked upon as sex symbols ALL of the time & no one says anything about the younger fans.

[swissman]

Originally posted by Stevie

Because she looked great and sheer dresses are nothing we haven't seen before. On the other hand, you don't see covers like Nicki's unless you're rummaging through cheap ****ography DVDs. Nicki deserves the backlash.

Exactly. Rihanna in that dress is the perfect example. HYPER sexualized. Almost too much. But it's elevated by creativity and execution.