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Discussion: Social Issues - Abortion
Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by TroubleSwift
It's a fact that two weeks after conception, an embryo starts becoming a person. I don't agree with ending a baby's life. Instead of fighting abortion, we should focus our efforts on keeping women safe from rape.
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That's very noble, but not all pregnancies that end in abortion are from rape. 
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Member Since: 3/5/2011
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I fully support abortion under certain cirumstances.
Why bring in a child to the world that you're not ready, both mentally and physically, to take care of?
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Member Since: 3/4/2012
Posts: 16,176
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Originally posted by Abyss
Please calm down.
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I'm not angry. That is just a BLATANT lie.
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Member Since: 5/4/2012
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Pro life ftw.
Make your bed, lie in it.
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Member Since: 7/23/2012
Posts: 8,113
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Originally posted by Ainsworth
Where the **** did you come up with this blatant ass lie?
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Which part?
Yes, the fetus is ripped as it's being removed
Yes, it's federal law (in the US) that clinics and practices that perform a bottoms must recognize that the fetus can feel pain.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Nice heated discussion, but did you guys know that teen pregnancy is steadily declining and has been since 1991? 
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
Posts: 53,769
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Now I'm all for serious issue discussions on ATRL and I really want this place to have some intelligent discussions, but you guys can't keep getting heated over it. Submit a help request about the thread and the team can discuss the possibility of this becoming a legit thing, but you're already arguing and nobody else is online to help take care of this, so for now, wait a little while.
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ATRL Senior Member
Member Since: 3/22/2012
Posts: 53,769
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You know what, never mind - but keep it calm. I don't want this getting permanently shut down like every other attempt at a mature thread.
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Member Since: 9/4/2011
Posts: 29,960
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 Retro let me share this cookie and glass of wine with you.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 20,070
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
Pro life ftw.
Make your bed, lie in it.
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So one should never have sex... Ever? 
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
Posts: 1,297
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Originally posted by Big Smoke
Pro life ftw.
Make your bed, lie in it.
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I hope you take this approach with everything.
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Member Since: 10/2/2011
Posts: 4,285
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Originally posted by Retro
You know what, never mind - but keep it calm. I don't want this getting permanently shut down like every other attempt at a mature thread.
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You know you'll have to soon anyways. 
Maybe work with the other moderators to make an announcement stating new policy about "serious" threads.
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Member Since: 8/31/2012
Posts: 13,110
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abortions are horrible horrible things, but at the same time, ultimately up to the man and woman who conceived the child.
I don't believe that women have exclusive rights to decisions on abortion, especially during the early stages, and especially since the decision to get or not get an abortion can affect the person who helped conceive the child.
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
Posts: 1,297
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Originally posted by WayTooHonest13
Which part?
Yes, the fetus is ripped as it's being removed
Yes, it's federal law (in the US) that clinics and practices that perform a bottoms must recognize that the fetus can feel pain.
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its law that clinics must recognise a fetus feels pain? where did you read that?
Fetuses dont feel pain until at least after 20 weeks
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
Posts: 1,297
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Originally posted by TikiMiss
abortions are horrible horrible things, but at the same time, ultimately up to the man and woman who conceived the child.
I don't believe that women have exclusive rights to decisions on abortion, especially during the early stages, and especially since the decision to get or not get an abortion can affect the person who helped conceive the child.
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You think men should have the right to tell women what to do with their bodies just because they had an orgasm inside them?
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 19,066
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Quote:
Originally posted by TikiMiss
abortions are horrible horrible things, but at the same time, ultimately up to the man and woman who conceived the child.
I don't believe that women have exclusive rights to decisions on abortion, especially during the early stages, and especially since the decision to get or not get an abortion can affect the person who helped conceive the child.
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How could the man be affected in anyway other than emotionally?
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Member Since: 3/15/2013
Posts: 25,228
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For the pro-lifers, if a woman decides to have an abortion, why does it matter to you? It doesn't affect you.
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ATRL Contributor
Member Since: 1/3/2014
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I think that people who disrupt the flow of this thread should be banned. The mature people still want to discuss social issues. 
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 20,070
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Let's remember that a fetus can't survive outside the womb until it's at 20 weeks, at the very earliest, so if you wanna go down the "the fetus is a human/has a life too!!" road, then that's only legit after that point (and there are very, very few abortions that are made after 20 weeks - they're special cases).
As long as the fetus is dependent of the woman to survive, then it's not a human in it's own right, imo.
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Member Since: 6/6/2012
Posts: 25,442
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Originally posted by Vespertine
Oh and for all the "if you don't want a baby, don't have sex" stuff, that's so easy for men to say ESPECIALLY here where it's 90% gay men who have luxury of never worrying about accidental pregnancies. Totally not fair to women. |
I'm straight and a guy, and I can abstain from sex, so I think anyone can. But if you really give in to your urges try to take methods of prevention at least.
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If a condom breaks and you end up with an STD, should we just say, "oh well you shouldn't have ever been having sex if you didn't want an STD" ?
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You shouldn't be having sex with randoms that could have STD's.
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