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Discussion: Pop Stars are WAY overpaid
Member Since: 2/17/2010
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Originally posted by Doc
Stop talking about who is doing what for the betterment of society. That's 100% irrelevant to economics.  |
This. Take Capitalism for an example.
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Member Since: 3/4/2009
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Originally posted by FatShady
Anyone can be a doctor but there can only be one Britney Spears.
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There are so many things wrong with this statement...I don't even know where to start 
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by BlazingLovatic
The Kardashians aren't white, they're Armenian. They're most definitely not stupid either! What other group of non-famous people could build an empire based off of one sex tape? None. It has nothing to do with 'how white they are' because many other people who are 'just as white' as they are would not be able to do what they did with just one sex tape.
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Armenians are white though, i am armenian too 
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Originally posted by phreshprince
I agree!! Let's have an example: Britney Spears. She will probably complain in the next few months of wanting time off however Americans work 40 hours a week + to make ends meet while she will be working 2-4 hours a day every other day and complain while she's making MILLIONS. I'm not trying to throw Britney under the bus, but I'm just saying it's annoying. Start a funding for college students, do SOMETHING
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Well, it's a completely different discussion to say that pop stars should contribute to causes with their immense wealth - I'm sure that we can all agree that it would be a good thing if everyone with immense wealth gave a portion back to society somehow, though they're not really morally obligated.
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TLC says no. 
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Member Since: 5/18/2012
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Originally posted by Яeo.
Do you really think doctors or engineers are poor? If they find a job they're settled for life and they are far above average. Whether they get paid by the Government or privately, it all depends on the situation. If those doctors come up with an innovative cure or medicine discovery breakout, I assure you they will earn a huge amount of money for that. Yes, as much as Pop star earns in a year if not even more. (For example, Instagram was sold for 1 BILLION to Facebook. And yet, the Instagram creators are far from being Pop stars.)
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I know they are not poor. But our society seems to have a higher value for celebrities than other meaningful professions. That's where I'm getting at.
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Member Since: 3/4/2009
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Originally posted by Doc
Stop talking about who is doing what for the betterment of society. That's 100% irrelevant to economics. |
Why is economics a starting point in your discussion though?
You can turn this discussion into a Capitalism vs. Socialism discussion and keep telling me that from the Capitalistic standpoint my point is invalid, which could be true. But then again I never argued that my point was economically valid. I just identified the flaw in our society. You can justify it with economics all you want
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
There are so many things wrong with this statement...I don't even know where to start |
The 'anyone' is pushing it a bit as you need to be able to follow difficult studies and have certain capacites to be a doctor (hence why doctors are usually pretty well off) but there is a large amount of truth in that statement nonetheless...
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Member Since: 8/27/2012
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Originally posted by Retro
Most pop stars have done little or nothing for society but entertain us. But the thing is, that's what they're selling to you - like silver, gold, oil, and diamonds, entertainment is a commodity to be bought and sold. What have some company executives done to advance society? Some do nothing at all in that regard and it's the same concept here. Pop stars work hard for what they earn - there's a lot of business behind the seemingly simple Top 40 radio singles and television performances that we see. There's negotiations, there's a label to deal with, partnerships to make, and most importantly tours to go on, which are what makes them the most money and what makes them deserve that money. Lady Gaga, just for the sake of example, ground her pelvis up to the point where it cracked because of how hard she was going at those tours to provide a service to her paying customers. She and other stars deserve what they make because they're the ones willing to provide a service every night for which there is immense demand. Without Gaga, P!nk, Katy, or Rihanna themselves, the money wouldn't flow in as strongly - the ARE the thing that people are buying. If people bought just music then probably nobody actually would make hundreds of millions of dollars from making music, but consumers pay for the person, for that person's time, energy, and body. They pay to see what that star represents, to be provided with a role model or with something to respect, even revere. Yes, there are people with much better products and services to offer society, but society itself determines which products and services are worthy of major profit, so it's difficult to argue that any one person earns too much when in this case it's society itself that determines those very earnings.
IDK if that big ass paragraph makes sense or has been said already but I felt like contributing my thoughts.  |
Yes to all of this 
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Originally posted by CoolestPerson12
White is a race, Armenian is an ethnicity. White isn't exclusive to Europe. So they are white.
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No? When they bubble in the field for race - they have white, black, Indian, Mexican and other. They would circle other or Indian
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Member Since: 2/17/2010
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Originally posted by CoolestPerson12
I know they are not poor. But our society seems to have a higher value for celebrities than other meaningful professions. That's where I'm getting at.
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Because celebrities bring you joy. When you go out and watch movies with friends and have a good time, you watch them act. When you are in a club celebrating your birthday or just ordinary going out, their music plays in the background. Their craft accompanies you along your life and you will remember them at the end of the day, the month and the year. I'd rather have that than people being addicted to tragedy and dramas. But ofcourse, if a doctor saves your life one day, you will owe him forever and appreciate him more than any celebrity alive. Life doesn't work in black or white.
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Originally posted by Doc
You might be joking a bit, but this is so true.
There are thousands upon thousands of doctors, teachers, scientists in the country. There's only a handful of popstars making significant amounts of money. Thousands of doctors and teachers cannot possibly each get paid the same amount as a few celebrities do. Where do you think that money comes from, thin air?
Doctors provide their services to a couple of patients every week. Teachers provide their services through the government (hence the lowered salary) to about 150 kids a week. Popstars provide their services to millions. Do you not see the discrepancy?
Stop talking about who is doing what for the betterment of society. That's 100% irrelevant to economics.
Like I said, even if Bey charged 10 cents for her album, she still would have made $100,000 in a couple of days.  |
This is very true as well.
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Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou
The 'anyone' is pushing it a bit as you need to be able to follow difficult studies and have certain capacites to be a doctor (hence why doctors are usually pretty well off) but there is a large amount of truth in that statement nonetheless...
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There could only be one Britney Spears? You think that statement is valid. Being a Britney Spears required a lot of luck, some charisma and some singing voice. Pop stars are much more disposable than any other profession. And don't report me, cause I believe that the same is true for P!nk and any other pop star.
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Member Since: 8/30/2012
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Originally posted by CoolestPerson12
I know they are not poor. But our society seems to have a higher value for celebrities than other meaningful professions. That's where I'm getting at.
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So which objective critera do you use to determine how meaningful a profession is ?
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Member Since: 4/29/2012
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We value them because they entertain us until the day the there is a messy scientific that has sex tapes, rehab stints and all that stuff we love to read and debate about they will remain in the shadows but remain making money. I mean they get to make money and not have to deal with paparazzis.
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Member Since: 4/2/2010
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Originally posted by Doc
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ALL OF THIS!
Should a pop singer give half their check to a surgeon just cause they save lives?
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I agree, but Mariah deserves every penny she got because she invented music.
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Originally posted by fanoftalent
There are so many things wrong with this statement...I don't even know where to start |
There's actually nothing wrong with that statement. Doc already explained why.
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Member Since: 2/17/2010
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Besides, many celebrities (Including P!nk) feel that they should give back because they've made so much money, and that's why they invest in charitable work. Celebrities like Oprah, Madonna and the late Paul Walker used a big amount of their money to better society.
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Member Since: 1/7/2011
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Some of these other girls maybe, But Bey works hard for her coins! And Imma support!
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