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Poll: Beyonce vs Janet: Who will have the larger legacy?
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View Poll Results: Who will have the larger legacy?
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Beyonce
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47.66% |
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Janet
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48.05% |
They're both flops.
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Originally posted by tcweh
LOL!
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Come for me cuz you know Janet can't come for Bey?
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Originally posted by Timber
Come for me cuz you know Janet can't come for Bey? |
Getting angry now because the poll results aren't what your dreams want them to be? It's okay.
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Originally posted by KangBey
T Bey, can easily out do Janet's album sells,.
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Oh really now let's compare sis:
Janet Jackson - 250,000 or under
Dream Street - like extremely low
Control - 14 million
RN - 14 million
Janet. -20 million
Over 48 million albums sold
And mind you these are just her first five albums and they are all under certified. Bey's highest seller is between 9 - 11 million and if we added it all up Bey's total is this:
11 million for DIL (i'm being nice)
6.3 million for B'Day
7.5 million for IASF
3 million for 4
in total that is
27.8 million. So you mean to tell me that Beyonce in this climate especially when she hasn't even seen 15 million albums sold. Is gonna somehow sell over 20 - 25 million albums alone off that one CD next era??? Come on now
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Originally posted by tcweh
Is that why Tina was ranked above even Whitney on the RS greatest singers of all
time? So your telling me it's possible for Beyonce to sell over 10 million multiple times? That's what it's going to require for her to pass Janet. Touring is a big market nowadays, Janet was a big touring artist, having the most successful debut tout by a solo artist ever, and her total gross still is ahead of Beyonce.
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By saying that Tina is better than Whitney at singing is enough to lose all of its credibility.
Beyonce has written, created and produced in 4 of her albums that have sold 10 million+
I doubt Janet had a better debut tour than Gaga, and the fact that she had such a successful first tour makes it sound like Michael's legacy had something to do with.
I can't wait till Beyonce finishes her tour that had no album supporting it. Usually only legends can gross 200m+ with no new music. 
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Originally posted by tcweh
Getting angry now because the poll results aren't what your dreams want them to be? It's okay.
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Hey I'm not the one saying that my family hates me.
Tbh, the poll results would have Bey winning if it weren't for all the enemies the BeyHive has.
The discussion has caused Bey's percentage to go from 20% to nearly 50%
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Originally posted by Timber
By saying that Tina is better than Whitney at singing is enough to lose all of its credibility.
Beyonce has written, created and produced in 4 of her albums that have sold 10 million+
I doubt Janet had a better debut tour than Gaga, and the fact that she had such a successful first tour makes it sound like Michael's legacy had something to do with.
I can't wait till Beyonce finishes her tour that had no album supporting it. Usually only legends can gross 200m+ with no new music. |
And by claiming that Beyonce writes you also lose credibility lolol. I don't necessarily think Tina is better than Whitney, I just said that to refute that she isn't known as a vocalist. Janet's debut tour was because of the Rhythm Nation album, not Michael.
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Janet's legacy is supposedly so big but not many seem to know that. it's a little contradictory.
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Originally posted by tcweh
And by claiming that Beyonce writes you also lose credibility lolol. I don't necessarily think Tina is better than Whitney, I just said that to refute that she isn't known as a vocalist. Janet's debut tour was because of the Rhythm Nation album, not Michael.
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Chile let's collect our bags and go we already clocked everyone several times in this thread. Let timber argue in circles he know's deep down inside bey doesn't have a bigger legacy than janet. And that is a fact that can't be disputed
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Originally posted by GeezusHaberdash
Janet's legacy is supposedly so big but not many seem to know that. it's a little contradictory. |
Yup well blame the fact that many are very much uneducated on the history of music and many artist'scontributions
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Originally posted by Timber
Hey I'm not the one saying that my family hates me.
Tbh, the poll results would have Bey winning if it weren't for all the enemies the BeyHive has.
The discussion has caused Bey's percentage to go from 20% to nearly 50% |
Neither did I, go back and read properly. Janet has plenty of haters on here too FYI.
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Originally posted by tcweh
And by claiming that Beyonce writes you also lose credibility lolol. I don't necessarily think Tina is better than Whitney, I just said that to refute that she isn't known as a vocalist. Janet's debut tour was because of the Rhythm Nation album, not Michael.
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There's plenty of video proof of Beyonce not only writing but creating music as well.
And trust me, there would be no Janet, and there would be no Rhythm Nation without Michael.
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Originally posted by Gangsta4alife
Chile let's collect our bags and go we already clocked everyone several times in this thread. Let timber argue in circles he know's deep down inside bey doesn't have a bigger legacy than janet. And that is a fact that can't be disputed
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Haha your right. What's the bet he puts her in another thread today.
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Originally posted by Gangsta4alife
Chile let's collect our bags and go we already clocked everyone several times in this thread. Let timber argue in circles he know's deep down inside bey doesn't have a bigger legacy than janet. And that is a fact that can't be disputed
Yup well blame the fact that many are very much uneducated on the history of music and many artist'scontributions
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Goodbye.
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Originally posted by GeezusHaberdash
Janet's legacy is supposedly so big but not many seem to know that. it's a little contradictory. |
So? Aretha's music is very local but her legacy is tremendous. She is the soul singer blueprint for almost every singer out there. Legacy does not depend on crossover success. Is Beyonce a bigger crossover act than Janet? Yes, probably. But legacies depend on impact and influence and that Janet has had.
Janet's influence on contemporary music is bigger than every popgirl. She's the architect behind the TRL generation singer/dancer mold. Her Control album created an entire genre. The definition of innovative. Beyonce has an incredible legacy in her own right. In fact, I think she's the last icon/legend we have. I just think Janet's contributions to pop music were much more important.
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Originally posted by tcweh
Haha your right. What's the bet he puts her in another thread today.
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Who cares the facts are right there and always will be, you can't twist them to your own benefit. It doesn't work that way. He should be thankful Janet actually decided to do music and not some other passion. Or the little creole girl imitating her moves to become the great dancer we know today wouldn't have been the same??? The empowerment anthems wouldn't have been the same?? Hell a huge portion of the music industry from the many artist's he jams to wouldn't be the same either.
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Originally posted by Timber
Goodbye. |
Don't be mad at the backfire you have been clocked & read down multiple times with pure and utter facts. Yo should get into Janet she is amazin
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Originally posted by GeezusHaberdash
Janet's legacy is supposedly so big but not many seem to know that. it's a little contradictory. |
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Watch your mouth, *****.
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Any way, Janet gets my vote. Janet really is a premier artist and basically created a blueprint that many artists still take inspiration from today, Beyonce being one of many.
However, I think it's safe to say that Beyonce has been added to the roster of the list of BLACK female entertainers who has made a significant impact on pop music, and there aren't many, as white female entertainers has always been more prevalent within the music industry.
We have, in no particular order; Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross, Tina Turner, Whitney, Janet, and now Bey. Personally, I don't think Rihanna is worthy enough to join them.
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Originally posted by Gangsta4alife
Who cares the facts are right there and always will be, you can't twist them to your own benefit. It doesn't work that way. He should be thankful Janet actually decided to do music and not some other passion. Or the little creole girl imitating her moves to become the great dancer we know today wouldn't have been the same??? The empowerment anthems wouldn't have been the same?? Hell a huge portion of the music industry from the many artist's he jams to wouldn't be the same either.
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True, it would be better. Ba Bye now. 
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Originally posted by Timber
There's plenty of video proof of Beyonce not only writing but creating music as well.
And trust me, there would be no Janet, and there would be no Rhythm Nation without Michael.
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Trust you? Based on your humiliating performance in your own thread ill do anything but trust you. The Rhythm Nation album influenced Michaels career more than he ever influenced hers. Anyways Have fun living in your fantasy world where Beyonce is the 2nd coming of Jesus Christ and no one can touch her "receipts"..Sorry I meant legacy, lol.
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Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts
So? Aretha's music is very local but her legacy is tremendous. She is the soul singer blueprint for almost every singer out there. Legacy does not depend on crossover success. Is Beyonce a bigger crossover act than Janet? Yes, probably. But legacies depend on impact and influence and that Janet has had.
Janet's influence on contemporary music is bigger than every popgirl. She's the architect behind the TRL generation singer/dancer mold. Her Control album created an entire genre. The definition of innovative. Beyonce has an incredible legacy in her own right. In fact, I think she's the last icon/legend we have. I just think Janet's contributions to pop music were much more important.
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fair enough. but if that's the case i would say Janet has bigger contributions, not legacy. Legacy imo implies that her contributions continue to the perpetuation of her name throughout history/time, but her name has been effectively erased. Aretha might be "local" but whenever a critic list is made she's at the top. Janet has been starting to trail behind Beyonce in quite a few lists lately...
and the whole idea of coming first meaning that u have a bigger legacy is asinine to me. I think someone else said before, James Brown came before Michael and is Michael's blueprint but I'd say MJ has the bigger legacy by far. it's a little too soon to tell how far Beyonce's contributions to music will extend throughout the industry over time but it's already definitely showing and the "Beyonce blueprint" has pretty much been a main staple of the R&B music scene since her debut.
Also, New Jack Swing only lasted for like a couple of years, so it's kinda a moot point to make that a part of Janet's long standing legacy.
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Originally posted by i spit on haters
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Watch your mouth, *****.
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Any way, Janet gets my vote. Janet really is a premier artist and basically created a blueprint that many artists still take inspiration from today, Beyonce being one of many.
However, I think it's safe to say that Beyonce has been added to the roster of the list of BLACK female entertainers who has made a significant impact on pop music, and there aren't many, as white female entertainers has always been more prevalent within the music industry.
We have, in no particular order; Aretha Franklin, Diana Ross, Tina Turner, Whitney, Janet, and now Bey. Personally, I don't think Rihanna is worthy enough to join them.
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i won't stand for these Beyonce attacks I'm seeing.
i agree with your paragraph.
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Queen B. I would hardly know who Janet was if it wasn't for her surname.
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