[Starkboy]

Originally posted by Scherzy

Bitch please !


Everyone here is just so delusional , this flop was so predictable ... I mean, i've never seen a sellout this big since ... NEVER. Even Nicki Minaj manage to do a 200k with being a big ass sellout.

R&B artist who want to sell albums don't do dance song. Final point. When people will understand this ? The rule major to sell to its fanbase is to remain honorable and remain an artist in his work.

You make no sense.

Why last era he sold much more with bigger pop hits?

Why Chris sold more last year with pop hits?

[KoreanDream]

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by castrobabytiger

you're doing too much

Scream didn't kill anything

Well, it probably did.

A lot of people were on board when he dropped "Climax." It was different and fresh. Hipsters even praised it. Then he releases "Scream," something so typical and safe.

Scherzy is right to an extent. These urban artists need to stop with the desperate urge for a hit. Their sales tend to suffer.

[Cz!]

Originally posted by Scherzy

Bitch please !


Everyone here is just so delusional , this flop was so predictable ... I mean, i've never seen a sellout this big since ... NEVER. Even Nicki Minaj manage to do a 200k with being a big ass sellout.

R&B artist who want to sell albums don't do dance song. Final point. When people will understand this ? The rule major to sell to its fanbase is to remain honorable and remain an artist in his work.

I agree with you for the most part, but what has your replay to do with my post? He could have recovered his stanbase (partially) with a good R&B album just like Beyoncé did, it wasn't too late in my opinion.

And with regards to Nicki... looks like these dancepop albums just work for females. We don't even have a properly succesful dancepop male artist, and Usher wasn't going to be an exception.

EDIT: Not saying that Beyoncé recovered her stanbase, she just had a strong first week with a great R&B album. Just clearing it up.

[Eóghan Scherzy]

Originally posted by I'mRihannaFan

You make no sense.

Why last era he sold much more with bigger pop hits?

Why Chris sold more last year with pop hits?

You make no sense ...
I'm talking dance song = trash song, i'm not talking about pop hits ! + the pop hits you're talking about are r&b appeal pop song just like the mythic YEAH! ....

OMG is not a dance song, it was a r&b/pop appeal song which became a multiformat hit, that's what barely save Raymond sales ...
Dj Got Us Falling In Love ruined Versus - EP sales which is irritating ...
... since it's a excellent EP (Hot Tottie, Lingerie ect ...)

Chris Brown and Usher don't have the same public, the same roots !

It's a shame you're comparing the two, i mean seriously ?!!
Usher is a pioneer of modern r&b, Chris Brown is nothing. So him doing dance song goes without saying, Usher not really.

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by Scherzy

You make no sense ...
I'm talking dance song = trash song, i'm not talking about pop hits ! + the pop hits you're talking about are r&b appeal pop song just like the mythic YEAH! ....

OMG is not a dance song, it was a r&b/pop appeal song which became a multiformat hit, that's what barely save Raymond sales ...
Dj Got Us Falling In Love ruined Versus - EP sales which is irritating ...
... since it's a excellent EP (Hot Tottie, Lingerie ect ...)

Chris Brown and Usher don't have the same public, the same roots !

It's a shame you're comparing the two, i mean seriously ?!!
Usher is a pioneer of modern r&b, Chris Brown is nothing. So him doing dance song goes without saying, Usher not really.

[UnusualBoy]

Originally posted by Flanders

You're dumb.

And you're ignorant but I didn't come here to praise you

[Tsuko]

Why are people complaining about Chris's pop hits anyway? He had Look At Me Now, which was an urban crossover hit, and MUCH bigger than Yeah 3x.

And with Usher's last era, OMG wasn't THAT sell-out-ish. Listen to just the instrumental, it's very urban-friendly for a dance-pop song. It's nothing on the levels of Starships or More, so not going to make his fanbase completely lose hope in him. It was DJ Got Us Fallin' in Love, Dirty Dancer, etc. that did it.



EDIT: Just read Scherzy's post. He agrees with me. OMG has urban elements in, as well as dance. There's no way you can quite compare it to Scream, Starships, etc.

[Jabril]

That's disappointing

[Cap10Planet]

"OMG" did reach #3 on the R&B/Hip Hop charts, so it was appealing to the urban crowd.

[Rico Shameless v2]

Originally posted by Britneyfan09

Talk That Talk was during Black Friday......

[Cz!]

I'm loving all these sell-out backlashes this year, not gonna lie.

[ILoveUsher]

Originally posted by Cz!

I'm loving all these sell-out backlashes this year, not gonna lie.

I thought you listened to the album and liked it

[BeamMeUp]

Welp. Another #1 album.

[Sinister]

but why is everyone calling each other dumb and stupid???

Usher should release another R&B single and probably save Euphoria for the end of year

[Allthatisholy]

Horrible

[DILF $]

Originally posted by Peep Show

No way, this album deserves so much more

IKR?

[jeeriz]

Originally posted by castrobabytiger

Usher should release another R&B single and probably save Euphoria for the end of year

The end of year?
That's a Bad Bad Bad Idea

[Cz!]

Originally posted by ILoveUsher

I thought you listened to the album and liked it

Yeah, I liked most of the songs and I loved some too. It's just that I don't like him trying to cross over so poorly and I have to criticize him for that. He deserves to flop to an extent.

You will see me supporting "Dive" when it's released to Urban radio.

[RihMark]

Originally posted by Britneyfan09

Talk That Talk was during Black Friday......

And it sold 80k more a year after Loud with no Urban single.