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^ Fight World War V (˝ year anniversary since debut thread)
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^ Fight World War V (˝ year anniversary since debut thread)
(6 months since “You Read It First” on Mar 4)
That’s all I’m saying . . .
“Identitarianism For Dummies” is available to read, too.
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What spamming?
Where communism left off,
Identitarianism picks up.
21st century
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Lol, what does this mean?
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Originally posted by WARRIOR_WITHIN
Lol, what does this mean?
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Back in the day, in March and April, I posted here about society-- a crude, amateur idea regarding work and leisure.
Over the summer, I've thought Identarianism to be two parts, self-interest and incentive. "World War V" is the incentive. There's one step to get to that, but at the end capitalism will be the final frontier of all of humanity. al-Qaeda will eventually be next to die after Nazism and communism. Globalization is all that's left.
World War V will be 6.5 billion people, indivdual vs. indivdual for the last-fronter of global capitalism. It's simple, elementary thinking, but what the hey? It'll work.
Self-interest is another story.
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And the naming of World War V:
World War III - the Cold War
World War IV - War on Islamic Terrorism
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Why do you make these types of threads, Wire Speak? None of these threads make sense. Only to Pandora 
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Why do you make these types of threads, Wire Speak? None of these threads make sense. Only to Pandora 
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I joined the Website Formally Known As Absolute TRL on the 2005 VMAs just to discuss popular culture as a current event. That purpose is gone, so I just use my existing prescence to publicize the thoughts I have.
I have no one else to talk to. No one in person (that could change).
It would look more unusual if I just went to some other website and all of sudden start talking all this information.
More "relevant" places on the WWW like those dealing with society and politics, are either liberal or conservative, and what I'm talking about doesn't fit in with that.
To me, Idenitarianism makes sense, and it the best ^explainer^ of me to things b/c the two Identitarian components-indivdual self-interest and incentive- makes up the economy we live in, and how the economy goes has an effect on the rest of human behavior.
But I don't really use a manifesto anymore, and I've found points of Identitiaranism that *should* make sense, I think?
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I always find your posts interesting Wire Speak but at times hard to decipher because you put together a lot of different subjects into factual statements rather than opinion and without explaining them. It's like strong sentence after strong sentence without knowing exactly how they connect.
Why don't you try a philosohpy forum rather forums that have a particular political/social slant? I know all three subjects can go together but maybe a place where they are separate on the forums. A google search brought this one up first and it seems to separate it's areas:
http://forums.philosophyforums.com/
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Not the place for this. I agree ^
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Originally posted by ~A*D*O*R*A~
I always find your posts interesting Wire Speak but at times hard to decipher because you put together a lot of different subjects into factual statements rather than opinion and without explaining them. It's like strong sentence after strong sentence without knowing exactly how they connect.
Why don't you try a philosohpy forum rather forums that have a particular political/social slant? I know all three subjects can go together but maybe a place where they are separate on the forums. A google search brought this one up first and it seems to separate it's areas:
http://forums.philosophyforums.com/
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I did not try to explain the first statements on this thread. I'll have to explain this message a little bit later.
I'm busy right now.
If anyone's paying attention, I'll be back.
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I don’t think this can be “hard to decipher.” Identitiarianism is made for each and every single person to use. Like a First Aid kit. This is all crude and improvised, no academic credentials attached.
It all comes down to two things: the things you like and work.
I think a place like Popfusion, at least The Lounge section of it, is relevant to this discussion. About culture and materialism. It’s talking some people liking Beyonce Knowles, some people going to see “Snakes On a Plane” some people going out to eat, some people living with a two-car garage. This is what self-interest is all about, spending money on what fulfills your own condition.
And that is the main driver on economic activity.
See this article in Time magazine regarding the intellectual founder of capitalism, Adam Smith:
“In (Adam) Smith's view, the great motivator of economic activity is "the uniform, constant, and uninterrupted effort of every man to better his condition"—or, bluntly, self-interest. Only this drive moves men to produce the goods that society needs.”
The introduction of capitalism was the biggest change in human society since the Agricultural Revolution 10,000 years ago. Almost every person on the planet was a farmer, now they worked busy days in factories and lived in crowded areas. Great inequality was created between the wealthy and the poor. For the first time, stress and alienation on the job, this continues to this day.
Communism was the ^answer^ to the problem of capitalism, but it failed trying have the government impose and dictate self-interest on you. They told you want to ~like~, and that was not enough.
From an economics textbook, referring to the founder of communism, Karl Marx:
"(Karl) Marx’s idea was not easy to put into practice. What does a person need? A chicken in every pot? Rice and beans? A glass of wine and a loaf of bread? We have different ideas when it comes to fulfilling our personal needs. People want more, and yet make do with little. How is a government to know what people want?"
I have a specific plan for self-interest, and how it consequences could be. Has not been revealed yet.
I mentioned the incentive step. There’s one part missing, but World War V is basically upon us now. Just think about that while studying at school or at work.
And Thomas Freidman puts makes this as the *main* message in “The World Is Flat” (no 2 right now on the Amazon.com best seller’s list)
"I argue in this book that around the year 2000 we entered a whole new era: Globalization 3.0 . . . The dynamic force in Globalization 3.0- the thing that gives it its unique character—is the newfound power for individuals to collaborate and compete globally."
I spend some time this summer comparing Identitarianism to concepts of philosophy; so far, I saw somewhat of a parallel to the well-known existentialism. About how it deals with individualism. I also found out about Nietzsche, but through a musician, who is not a part of my identity but is important to Identitarian thinking. He is unnamed for now.
If I talk to philosophers on the Net A*D*O*R*A, then I should talk to people in person for once. See how that ends up. I know no one to talk to other than my parents.
For the critics, I know what a person does in his/her work or free time may have no visible impact on society.
But if everyone got together, millions of people, then certain industries could be benefited, and others, well, could have it different.
The world in the future is not going be dependent on presidents, executives, celebrities, and terrorists. It’s going to be dependent on the labor and buying habits of average people around the world in the U.S. and China, as I said in the spring.
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Lol, your writing skills remind me of a professional....Maybe you should check out Christina Milian's writing skills then maybe we can talk...hehe. Not to be mean, but I don't understand a word your saying. I don't feel like spending a couple more minutes just trying to figure out what you're saying.
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Originally posted by WARRIOR_WITHIN
Lol, your writing skills remind me of a professional....Maybe you should check out Christina Milian's writing skills then maybe we can talk...hehe. Not to be mean, but I don't understand a word your saying. I don't feel like spending a couple more minutes just trying to figure out what you're saying.
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At least I wasn't callled a spammer.
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I respect your viewpoint (or I should say standpoint); but this isn't the best place to express it. ~ Especially considering the nature of some of the members here and their lack of ideas connected with contemporary society and their own personal educational backgrounds. (Including myself in tiny ways, which at the end of the day is my fault.  )
But I guess its cool to see you here and the fact your not another psychotic Britney Spears fan. 
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Originally posted by Travis05
I respect your viewpoint (or I should say standpoint); but this isn't the best place to express it. ~ Especially considering the nature of some of the members here and their lack of ideas connected with contemporary society and their own personal educational backgrounds. (Including myself in tiny ways, which at the end of the day is my fault.  )
But I guess its cool to see you here and the fact your not another psychotic Britney Spears fan. 
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I know that. And I've said over and over again that I'm a loner and I have no one to talk to.
My writings are about as simple and mainstream as I can go. So I've think I've been doing my job.
Your job as a reader, well I can’t speak for you.
The excuse for being here was that yesterday was the 1/2 year anniversary of the 1st thread. Similar to the 2nd thread being the 1 month anniversary of the 1st thread. No new threads after April.
I once posted at the “Main Music Forum” and “TRL and Countdown Shows” areas, but popular culture is pretty easy to figure out. Like I wrote in my profile “why should I like movies? (I can read about them if I have to)”. How is knowing about music, TV, and movies going to help me for my education?
The real TRL was in 1999. As for Britney Spears, Travis05, I know this woman would be waiting tables in Mississippi now if it wasn't for Lou Pearlman signing the Backstreet Boys and beginning the now deceased teen-pop boom.
But Wire Speak is keeping the genre alive and well when it has been seemingly buried by the rest of society.
Same for rap-rock/rapcore.
WCW and ECW died at the same time as the careers of 98 Degrees and Papa Roach, but they are damn well remembered today.
These are all just public announcements.
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omg, I understand that Wire Speak.  . I don't have anything agaisnt you it's just confusing because all the threads in the lounge are nothing like this one and it confuses people. That's the only reason why people get frusted with you. It's like the past 6 months we've had the normal typical threads in here then now you come and post something that makes no sense (at least to me and some others) and we all get confused because were not used to this kind of threads. I have nothing against you, but maybe you should just clairfy what your trying to say so people don't get mad. I still don't get what you're trying to get across. Eh, well I tried....Adora and Travis understands your posts, but most people here probably won't and they'll get mad and tell you to leave. I don't mind you posting here, so I wish you luck. I'll try to understand your topics more.
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You sorta made sense in your last post. Because it was about Music and Movies etc. The other stuff just seems like rambles.
Really, click that link that was provided to you in this thread. We're here for different reasons to you.
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Originally posted by Wire Speak
I don’t think this can be “hard to decipher.” Identitiarianism is made for each and every single person to use. Like a First Aid kit. This is all crude and improvised, no academic credentials attached.
It all comes down to two things: the things you like and work.
I think a place like Popfusion, at least The Lounge section of it, is relevant to this discussion. About culture and materialism. It’s talking some people liking Beyonce Knowles, some people going to see “Snakes On a Plane” some people going out to eat, some people living with a two-car garage. This is what self-interest is all about, spending money on what fulfills your own condition.
And that is the main driver on economic activity...
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Alright, I see what you mean. I'm just not sure how to respond when I read your threads because I'm not sure whether you want a response or a discussion at all? Your threads seem to be statements, like you said yourself 'your thoughts' hence they are kind of like a blog. Is there any paritcular thing(s) you want to discuss about the theories you are writing about?
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