This is all anti-consumerism. But again, I have just ONE model that makes Identitarianism what it is.
That is “one particular thing”, A*D*O*R*A, that I will mention.
Or just plain state what it is.
Indeed, this thread could well serve as a blog of comments to myself. I don't have a MySpace page. My therapist told me to get a profile on N.C. State’s Facebook, so that's there. But I've only had one person to write on my wall since August 2005.
You know the average page like that gets wall-writing every other day, so how would I fare on MySpace then?
I know this is not the "target audience" for the Identitarian Show, but Popfusion is where it all began for these thoughts. It is the only message board I've ever joined, so for now, it is the only place for me to go public.
So that's that.

Maybe more people would be willing to talk to you if you spoke a little clearer. Break it down like you are talking to a bunch of 2 year olds.

Here’s another form . ..

World War V: Who Can Do Capitalism Better?


United States
and
Western
Europe


VS


Everybody else (esp. China and India)


You act as a participant for the U.S. and Western Europe (the blue team) with your job and education. 570 million European and American workers are on the same team.
You fight the war at work and school. Your labor makes the American economy stronger, and the blue team will gain ground.
The blue team is fully rich (developed). The red team used to be poor and is getting rich (developing).

*** LISTEN TO THIS: The blue team has had the most power for 700 years, and they've mastered capitalism. But globalization introduced capitalism to the red team, and they started World War V to take the power back from the blue team. ***
__ Like China was ^the world's most POWERFUL nation^ in 1388, but is using capitalism to become a world power again.
If you slack off, the Chinese and Indians will keep building more skyscrapers, opening more Starbucks, graduating more engineering students, and gain more power. They will attaract more foreign investment and intellectual influence. They will cut into the lead that the U.S. has over all nations.

Fight World War V for your grandchildren, because they will live in America that is less powerful than it is today.
You won't go into the poverty, obviously. But the U.S. will lose some of its superpower status like Rome and England once did. You and I are pretty darn *lucky* to live in this country at this time in history.
How powerful the blue team will be depends on your labor NOW.

High gas prices, budget deficits, no Social Security, expensive health care, crowded universities, suburban sprawl-- these are problems of U.S/W.E. that can be blamed on blamed on Everybody else, the red team.
No one politican on either team can control the global economy. Neither can the WTO, World Bank, IMF, G8, can do enough.
Only millions of people acting together can direct the economy in the best direction.
It's going to be workforce vs. workforce.

__________________________________________________ _______________

If you know what global competition is, then you've been through this before.
And World War V is just encouragement and motivation to work harder, peoples.
It's not something you can touch or feel.
Or download.

That made more sense.

Another perspective . . .

On the Blue Team:

Chef-Lover (Canada)
Charmbraclet (U.S.)
LoveSounds (Great Britain)
And, yours truly (U.S.)

Rebelling against Blue Team's 700-year hold of power, these are members of the Red Team:

SexyBack (Poland)
XTIANLOVESBRITNEY (Peru)
luisedo (Venezuela)
Trevor Cold (Mexico)

__________________________________________________ _______________________

"I'm a graduate of high school but a college drop out
That don't mean s*** because there's no turning back
I got my bong, my buds, and my baseball bat"
- D-Loc of the Kottonmouth Kings, Full Throttle

Ah, now I see.

I believe I went over my views on this in your last thread so I wont repeat myself but I'll just say that I don't see the need for unnecessary conflict/competition - competition of people within capitalism to suceed is one thing but when it gets to the level of feeling countries need to compete to outdo others by a large amount, stay on top, keep others down etc it's gone too far. I don't see the problem with countries having more equal footing with each other and having that kind of international balance where we're all doing well at least to a standard minimum of quality of life for everyone and not just the rich. I think we should catch up with our feats in technology and realise that we don't need super powers with their hands in everyone's pockets controlling their trade laws and blackmailing each other anymore and it's about time the countries that have been poor and been made poor for ages were given a look in. We have enough problems and always have with competition over things like culture and religion (most wars have huge financial reasons as well though which comes under capitalism) without now thinking 'crap, we have to work even harder then we are already to make sure no one is ever better off then we are'. I think we need to concentrate the 'working harder' bit on making sure the people within our own countries aren't suffering needlessly, helping everything that's abused and prevent our downfall with the environment and none of that needs to be done at the cost of those elements in other countries, which is has up to date. Other countries have suffered by countries who wanted to make sure they were better off, much better off, at the expense of others. There's enough wealth and knowledge, which isn't being distributed properly yet, to try and sort out our problems without making more and encouraging competition on the scale that creates more international conflict and tenuous relations.

Also, your last post/example just shows the unnecessary level of patriotism this theory holds and the potential risks it has. Even if it was 'friendly competition', we all know where that can lead and on the scale you're talking about, I don't think it's worth it. Why is there the need to hoard? Greed and fear and sometimes irrational fear. It's time we moved away from that type of thinking.

I didn’t mean Identitarianism to be really for the government, President Bush, or any country to carry out.
It was just intended for me to try ^harder^ to write essays or get a part-time job. My talents and efforts contribute to the blue team, or U.S. and the rest of Western Civilization.
How can one person studying harder come at the expense of others? World War V intended to be for student by student, worker by worker.
It USED to be that the blue team governments colonized parts of the red team, used the CIA to monitor their governments, exploited their crops and resources, things like that.
Globalization does not necessarily have people working at the expense of others. Somewhat. You may disagree.
Instead, globalization is like there are natural resources, capital, investment, power, influence out there, and it’s just matter of who can get what. It used for be all for the blue team, but China and India are starting to get their piece of the pie.
It’s like a scoreboard, which team can score the most points? No one’s going to get KILLED by global economic competition, right?

You mentioned A*D*O*R*A about the poor getting and benefits and such . . . that’s for the governments and the international donor organizations to decide. World War V is about SOCIEITES, not states (or governments). Some policies that intend to help Africa or Latin America could be economically less efficient or not. Some well, may not.
Whatever happens, EVERY person in red team is going be affected by the global economy. So globalization, the last frontier of history, CANNOT be reversed. Using tariffs, quotas, is not going to be enough. Every person is going to compete!

I don’t *hate* the red team- everyone else in the world. Neither do I hate the students at school I compete with. Just became my parents are competing with their co-workers for a raise, doesn’t mean chaos for them. The war is not fear for me.
The blue and red team members can work against each other and sing Kumbaya at the end of the day, for all I care.

World War V could be refuted, rejected, or undiscussed (like it has been on Popfusion so far). But I'll use it and Identitarianism for myself.
I'll try WW5, it could well fail on me in the future. It may not motivate me ^at all^ to work and study. But it's official as of September 2K6.
And the Identitarian idea addresses the two parts of capitalism (some people call this the INVISIBLE HAND):
1) self-interest [[ I will reveal this model some time ]]
2) incentive << this is your salary, this why you work of course >>
And I tried to give new definitions for those two things. That’s all

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If you’re still reading, then there’s good stuff yet to come.
And this was touched in April.
Now, I don’t want to ignore what everyone here is into. I am posting on Popfusion, “the convergence of music and pop culture”.
I’ve mentioned the war being fought with *jobs*.
How about those ^working^ in the entertianment business?
Industry members making the red team stronger:

Shakira (Colombia)
Chinua Achebe (Nigeria)
Rain (South Korea) << The world's second most influential entertainer, as named by Time mag. >>
Utada Hikaru (Japan)
T.a.T.u. (Russia)
Zhang Ziyi (China)
Aishwarya Rai (India)

What industry do you work for?
Who will be the next Tom Cruise or Marilyn Monroe for the blue team? The next Coldplay or 50 Cent decades from now?
How can the blue team (esp. the U.S. of course) keep their dominance over world’s culture share?
This supremecy goes allllllllll the way back to Shakespeare, y’know.