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Celeb News: Mariah's fail explained
Member Since: 11/5/2010
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Originally posted by KillingYourCareer
As if  she wrote those songs and she's performed them hundreds of times, she remembers all the lyrics. But apparently, she's forgetful

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Maybe she was drinking then like everyone at the bar thought cause she said alot of wierd random stuff.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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this was too tragic to save or to make excuses for dddd
but mess at "professionals" 
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Member Since: 6/22/2011
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I haven't posted in years but seems like as good a time as any.
Why are people so pressed about this? Is everyone seriously going to pretend that no one else in the industry lips? As Mariah said, **** happens. She handled it terribly but she really was in a lose-lose situation. Had she sung without being able to hear herself, she would have been horribly out of tune. If she walked off stage, she would look like a huge diva.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Okay, but why does this only ever happen to her?

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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by Ascension
These make a lot of sense, but the **** ups with Mariah's performances in recent years happen so often that it's really hard to say what does and doesn't fall on the production team and/or Mariah herself.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Shaner69
Maybe she was drinking then like everyone at the bar thought cause she said alot of wierd random stuff.
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Well, you shouldn't get drunk before going on stage. That's unprofessional 
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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i've done much more embarrassing things on new year's eve before tbh
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Member Since: 6/22/2011
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Originally posted by A Little Unruly
Okay, but why does this only ever happen to her?

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I think her team is a mess too. And if you lipsync 95% of the time you're bound to get "caught" eventually. She's not the only singer to get caught lipsyncing at a major event, it happened to Beyonce just a few years ago. I just think people calling for her head and saying her career needs to end are being extra.
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Y'all, this was nothing but a MAJOR technical malfunction. Even though she was planning on lip syncing some of the songs, she was still unable to hear herself which means she can't sing.
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Member Since: 11/5/2010
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Originally posted by Paul McCutie
i've done much more embarrassing things on new year's eve before tbh
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Hopefully not Infront of millions of people
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Member Since: 2/6/2014
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Originally posted by Penny.
you keep using the word "oppressed" incorrectly 
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Member Since: 1/4/2012
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Originally posted by Shaner69
The problem with these explanations is they are basically saying she was not able to lip sync because she couldn't see the words or hear them.
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this. this kind of thing is the risk that an act takes when they opt to lip sync (portions of) their performances.
if the technical problems were unavoidable, the situation could have at least been saved if she hadn't decided to lip portions. she could have declared that she couldn't hear, and have stood there in silence or w/e, and the general public would have laughed at her, but would have understood.
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Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Originally posted by PromKing
Yes she would, the sound is CLEARLY fine on stage or else the dancers wouldn't have known what to dance to when. She could have also stopped the track, figured it out or just dont it acapella... she's a vocalist, isn't she?
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Clearly you've never sung onstage before. Everyone knows if you can't hear the music properly or your voice you will sound terrible. OMG!!!
This is actually way worse than I thought.
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Member Since: 11/27/2010
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Originally posted by exfactor003
this. this kind of thing is the risk that an act takes when they opt to lip sync (portions of) their performances.
if the technical problems were unavoidable, the situation could have at least been saved if she hadn't decided to lip portions. she could have declared that she couldn't hear, and have stood there in silence or w/e, and the general public would have laughed at her, but would have understood.
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You have to lip it some of the time if you don't want to damage your voice. Mariah has already proved she can actually sing.
Arm chair musicians need to have a seat.
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Member Since: 1/4/2012
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Originally posted by Adonis
You have to lip it some of the time if you don't want to damage your voice. Mariah has already proved she can actually sing.
Arm chair musicians need to have a seat.
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this was a pointless reply to my post, seeing as how I have never chastised an act for lipping, including now.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Originally posted by Aurora
I have no doubt that there's some truth to this, but this has happened to ALL of our faves at some point or other and nothing has ever been this bad, and no artist has shown so little attempt to try and make it work.
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For me, it wasn't even her inability to do her planned lip-syncing, it was her attitude and complete lack of perseverance that were the most cringeworthy. Adele also gave a "**** happens" response after her own technical issues at this past Grammys, but the difference was that Adele still sang (live) every word of "All I Ask"... it was truly a "**** happens" situation, not simply a lack of effort. Same goes for Madonna at the Brits and any other name that's getting thrown around here. You make an effort to keep going, or (a too-rare opportunity in live television) you stop and fix the problem before starting over the right way.
I kind of feel bad, it must've been humiliating for her. At the same time, though, I would've expected more from an industry veteran who thinks so highly of herself.
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Member Since: 2/16/2012
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Even if this were true, isn't she a pro with over twenty-five years experience in the industry?
She could have stopped the performance - yes, even on live television - apologised to the audience, worked to fix the issue or done something else with her time (like, as someone else said, laughing it off and doing a couple of tunes a capella). There were multiple ways she could have made this a far less painful experience for herself and her audience...
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Member Since: 11/18/2011
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Originally posted by beans
There are pictures of her rehearsing, and even if she knows the lyrics - she wouldn't have known WHEN to sing it because her earpiece is not working.
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I feel really sorry for her if that's the case, she deserves a better team.
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Member Since: 8/24/2010
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Originally posted by daydreams
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For me, it wasn't even her inability to do her planned lip-syncing, it was her attitude and complete lack of perseverance that were the most cringeworthy. Adele also gave a "**** happens" response after her own technical issues at this past Grammys, but the difference was that Adele still sang (live) every word of "All I Ask"... it was truly a "**** happens" situation, not simply a lack of effort. Same goes for Madonna at the Brits and any other name that's getting thrown around here. You make an effort to keep going, or (a too-rare opportunity in live television) you stop and fix the problem before starting over the right way.
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For a music forum, it's quite astounding how little people here know about the topic they argue about all day.
The Adele issue was just (iirc) one problem with the piano. For Mariah, her in-ear monitors were not working, which is about the worst thing that can happen. If you can't hear yourself or the track, then you're singing deaf and you'll probably sound like a seal. It would have been even more embarrassing had she tried to sing. And even if you manage to stay vaguely on key, the speakers are obviously delayed. There's a reason why the couple of notes she did try to sing live were all half a second late.
Unlike with the Adele issue or most other situations, no amount of pereseverance or ~effort~ can make up for that. What should have happened is that the TV crew should have gone for a commercial, or else someone should have been on stage. Mariah was clearly waiting for it to be resolved.
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Member Since: 8/24/2010
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Originally posted by Mr. Fahrenheit
Even if this were true, isn't she a pro with over twenty-five years experience in the industry?
She could have stopped the performance - yes, even on live television - apologised to the audience, worked to fix the issue or done something else with her time (like, as someone else said, laughing it off and doing a couple of tunes a capella). There were multiple ways she could have made this a far less painful experience for herself and her audience...
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Absolutely.
But I guess that, from the sounds of it, they didn't soundcheck Make It Happen (the first song) so she was probably expecting the issues would be sorted out by the next one. And then when they weren't, it was already 2:30 mins into the performance. I'm shocked that television didn't go to commercial or that no sound guy actually got on stage to try and fix it. Seems like a lot of experienced professionals ****ed up.
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