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Celeb News: Mariah's fail explained
Member Since: 3/13/2012
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She can't win in this situation.
If she tried, you'd all drag her vocals instead. Mariah being Mariah, she chose to be dragged for not being professional.
This could have been handled better (by just leaving the stage) but she is who she is and we can't change that. She herself refuses so...

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Member Since: 4/23/2012
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If she could still sing this wouldn't be an issues
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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Originally posted by private radio
This could have been handled better (by just leaving the stage) but she is who she is and we can't change that. She herself refuses so...

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Pretty much.
I love her, but she didn't do much to take control of the situation. All she did was try to get them to hear her from on stage where hundreds of thousands of people were screaming.
She should've cut the performance short
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Member Since: 5/27/2016
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She managed to lip sync We Belong Together perfectly at the beginning of the song and then just... gave up?...
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Those posts were deff by her stans posing as "professionals".
Point is she was going to lip synch to a prerceorded track but instead they played instrumentals and so she kept tryibg to find excuses to not sing , then they put up WBT with the exact studio vocals which is also not what she wanted of course and so yes she was deffinetlt screwed by the sound guys but let us not act like mimi was about to actually sing live renditions of her tracks for the audience.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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A MESS.
This is going down as the worst performance in history.
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Member Since: 11/5/2010
Posts: 2,449
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Originally posted by nathanspears
She managed to lip sync We Belong Together perfectly at the beginning of the song and then just... gave up?...
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Yeah that's what made this disaster more messy
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Member Since: 11/5/2010
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Originally posted by retromaury
A MESS.
This is going down as the worst performance in history.
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Well maybe not but it's the worst ever at Times Square
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
Posts: 4,138
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Originally posted by Golo*****
For a music forum, it's quite astounding how little people here know about the topic they argue about all day.
The Adele issue was just (iirc) one problem with the piano. For Mariah, her in-ear monitors were not working, which is about the worst thing that can happen. If you can't hear yourself or the track, then you're singing deaf and you'll probably sound like a seal. It would have been even more embarrassing had she tried to sing. And even if you manage to stay vaguely on key, the speakers are obviously delayed. There's a reason why the couple of notes she did try to sing live were all half a second late.
Unlike with the Adele issue or most other situations, no amount of pereseverance or ~effort~ can make up for that. What should have happened is that the TV crew should have gone for a commercial, or else someone should have been on stage. Mariah was clearly waiting for it to be resolved.
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Actually, what's astounding is you trying to come for me for drawing a comparison when you remember/know so little about the Adele situation
Yes, it originated from a piano mic, but when the mic was on, it was confirmed Adele was hearing that clanging sound in her ear multiple times louder than anyone else. Not hearing vocals while you're supppsed to lipsync and hearing the wrong thing, specifically something that sounds wayyyy out of tune, when you're suppposed to sing live to are pretty equally fatal technical issues. For Adele, when crew tried to fix it the first time, they ended up turning off her mic altogether. Eventually, they got it fixed in the room but not on TV, though by that point she'd already been thrown off. She finished the song and later got dragged, but the difference was it was only for being out tune (the thing you're seemingly claiming would be so much worse). It was an easy PR recovery, within a week was back within everyone's good graces with an on-key redo performance on Ellen.
Had Mariah just gone for it and and sang poorly, she could apologise and say the monitors was at fault, perhaps scheduled/shared a similar 'hey don't worry haters, I can still sing' performance to stop the talk. Had she even just tried to lip what there was, she could've similarly owned up to it later. But instead, the true issue was the attitude/behavior I already described, she proceeded to wander around the stage, make faces and awkward, indirect commentary, give up on the prerecorded vocals of WBT that did play, and so on. As others have said, if going on was impossible, had just stopped dead in her tracks, stood there and maturely said "I'm sorry, I'm experiencing technical difficulties, I can't hear myself" it not only would have been a better reflection of her status, but people would be much more understanding.
Maybe you're right, though, no amount of effort can make up for a botched lip-synced performance. I'm already giving her too much, as there is inherently no commendable effort involved.
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Member Since: 8/24/2010
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Originally posted by daydreams
Actually, what's astounding is you trying to come for me for drawing a comparison when you remember/know so little about the Adele situation
Yes, it originated from a piano mic, but when the mic was on, it was confirmed Adele was hearing that clanging sound in her ear multiple times louder than anyone else. Not hearing vocals while you're supppsed to lipsync and hearing the wrong thing, specifically something that sounds wayyyy out of tune, when you're suppposed to sing live to are pretty equally fatal technical issues. For Adele, when crew tried to fix it the first time, they ended up turning off her mic altogether. Eventually, they got it fixed in the room but not on TV, though by that point she'd already been thrown off. She finished the song and later got dragged, but the difference was it was only for being out tune (the thing you're seemingly claiming would be so much worse). It was an easy PR recovery, within a week was back within everyone's good graces with an on-key redo performance on Ellen.
Had Mariah just gone for it and and sang poorly, she could apologise and say the monitors was at fault, perhaps scheduled/shared a similar 'hey don't worry haters, I can still sing' performance to stop the talk. Had she even just tried to lip what there was, she could've similarly owned up to it later. But instead, the true issue was the attitude/behavior I already described, she proceeded to wander around the stage, make faces and awkward, indirect commentary, give up on the prerecorded vocals of WBT that did play, and so on. As others have said, if going on was impossible, had just stopped dead in her tracks, stood there and maturely said "I'm sorry, I'm experiencing technical difficulties, I can't hear myself" it not only would have been a better reflection of her status, but people would be much more understanding.
Maybe you're right, though, no amount of effort can make up for a botched lip-synced performance. I'm already giving her too much, as there is inherently no commendable effort involved.
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I don't care.
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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So how does this explain how artists performed just fine before ear monitors were invented up until the 90s, sometimes in front of 100,000 screaming fans in a stadium?
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
Posts: 4,138
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Originally posted by Golo*****
I don't care.
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You cared enough to try it when you knew nothing in the first place, honey. Clearly don't have a rebuttal of your own now, so I'll just rest my case and save you from further embarrassment 
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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You can tell she felt so embarrassed that she didn't even bother to try to lipsync to WBT (even when the track was playing correctly)
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Originally posted by Golo*****
I don't care.
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Not you trying to act all nonchalant and badass when he DRAGGED your ass 
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Member Since: 11/11/2010
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I kind of feel bad because I know this could have happened to literally anyone, even (and especially) if they were singing 100% live. And there's nothing she could have done mid-song to fix this without making a bigger fool of herself.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
Posts: 5,368
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Originally posted by IBeMe
Those posts were deff by her stans posing as "professionals".
Point is she was going to lip synch to a prerceorded track but instead they played instrumentals and so she kept tryibg to find excuses to not sing , then they put up WBT with the exact studio vocals which is also not what she wanted of course and so yes she was deffinetlt screwed by the sound guys but let us not act like mimi was about to actually sing live renditions of her tracks for the audience.
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IA, like in the beginning of Emotions she said she couldn't hear and I think starting WBT she said 'this is the track' or s/t
What I also don't understand is why she couldn't pull through because she sounded like she would be able to get in the groove for Emotions when she sung a word but just gave up
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
Posts: 8,639
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The fact is that Mariah has pulled this regularly in recent years, always blaming the technical staff and crew while showing her complete lack of respect for the people who paid money and waited hours to see her perform. There's truly nothing lower than a multimillionaire entertainer purposely throwing away a live televised performance while disparaging and shaming the hard working, low paid laborers who spent their New Years Eve holiday putting together a performance for you.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
Posts: 4,333
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Originally posted by Migrate
ATRL being a bunch of excitable twinks once again showed that they have no thinking capability to get them anywhere in life whatsoever. If your monitors are off you don't sing, period. This could happen to anyone and there's nothing you can do except stopping the show dead in its track.
I don't hope something like this happens to you know who but if it does I hope it exposes all your tired, sagging, bleached asses.
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Explain the countless clips online of her lip syncing to me then. If she's done it once, she obviously has the capacity to do it again. The painful naivety 
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