Originally posted by Lasers

And we dont need these threads, hun. An Aaliyah stan didnt make it. Aaliyah is constantly talked about, referenced, and music is always sampled in the actual music world and industry. You think we need an atrl thread for some type of validation?

R I H A N N A

A R I A N A

A A L I Y A H

Originally posted by 6_INCH_HEELS

A "Once Upon a Time" tea. Like get over it. Everyone thriving now, would still be thriving even if Liyah was still alive.

Originally posted by Lasers

Brandy was only bigger for nsn era and by that point Aaliyah was already on musical hiatus gearing up for her acting career.

Brandy and Aaliyah had two seperate career paths and goals. What Brandy sold and did, doesnt negate Aaliyah's success. Thats like saying Prince is irrelevant because MJ was bigger.

Originally posted by Lasers

Unlike Brandy and Ashanti, Aaliyah didnt heavily focus on just r & b.

She had music coming with Trent Reznor

Originally posted by Djbrian

I love how people make it seem that being a great actress means your singing career will tank as if you can't be successful with both. Brandy was doing her best when she was able to juggle both, Will Smith had his biggest hits when he crossed over to film but non of that applies to Aaliyah? I don't subscribe to the Bey comparisons because they are completely different and Bey works very hard so I don't think anyone would have stopped her but that same logic applies to Aaliyah she died because she was overworked and her label wasnt prepared for her film career to take off the way it did.

With that said I also don't get how people group her with what Brandy and Monica are doing now because her musical style was different from theirs (self titled shows the direction she was headed in) and her style was what was winning in the 00s. Aaliyah could perform, she had a good versatile voice, was a flawless beauty, fashion forward and wasn't afraid to take risks which are attributes that Rihanna and Bey have and why they are successful.

The only thing that flopped before she died was WNAR which weirdly enough she never performed that song the video was all it had going for it. Her last album gave her the highest 1st week sales of her career ( flop single and all) and it was her fastest to obtain gold status (she was a multi platinum artist) and her global success got bigger with each era due to her label actually promoting her more overseas within her last few years of living.

Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King

LMAO This Kii. Brandy released a LOT of songs throughout her career. The same year Aaliyah had AANBAN, her singles started to bomb as soon as Brandy debuted with I Wanna Be Down. Then Brandy had Sittin Up in My Room in '96, which was bigger than every song from OIAM.

And you're absolutely right, but at that time, they were constantly pitting the women against each other. Brandy v Aaliyah v Monica was a HOT debate.



Brandy did not focus on R&B WTF are you smoking AALIYAH was the one with the debut album with 100% R&B Grooves. Brandy always did girly pop; not songs created by the pied piper of R&B Brandy's NSN had just as many pop joints as she did R&B joints. She was marketed as a GLOBAL artist, something Aaliyah and Monica never were.




You're absolutely right in the first statement. Bey would be where Bey is with or without Aaliyah.

People group her with Brandy & Monica because they were all young black teenage girls making R&B/Pop songs. It's interested that you bring up the direction Aaliyah was headed... Her "Futuristic" R&B album was based off of TLC's FanMail. ST was literally a mess with the experimental tracks. Plus Brandy went and perfected that sound in 2002 with Full Moon. You guys need to stop with the lies that Aaliyah was a good performer... sis was not Her vocals were weak and at the time of her death, her choreography was meh. She wasn't some Beyoncé the way you guys make her out to be. She didn't have the voice Brandy had; not even CLOSE and her moves didn't make up for it.

That's incorrect. Significant amount of Aaliyah singles flopped before her death lmao. Half of the singles from OIAM flopped, Whether it's the label's fault or not, a flop is a flop . Also first week sales were extremely irrelevant. Monica's After The Storm opened with her best sales at the time and it still ended up stalling and barely going Platinum.

Originally posted by Pikachoo

let me tell you something about the beautiful Queen Aaliyah.

She was destined for stardom. YES she was. She was a godly woman and good things were going to happen to her. She was already queen of crossing over to movies and making amazing soundtracks yes she was. Try Again? Are you that somebody? My angel was very talented and smart, yes she was. But then something happened; Dame Dash happened. He sacrificied Aaliyah. Why? Because his career was completely flopping. no one wanted anything to do with him. so he thought sacrificing Aaliyah would bring him back into good circles. and guess what? The entire industry knew. Jay-Z knew. Miss Boo Rachel Roy knew. Beyonce knew. MJB knew. They all damn knew. Timbaland knew. Missy Elliot knew. Yeah, they pretended to be Aaliyahs friends but they knew. Well I take that back the good sis Mary J Blige was a good friend to Aaliyah. but she was too scared to Dame and Jay to say anything. You see, Dame was desperatley trynna save his record company and his relationship with Jay Z. Beyonce knew damn well with Aaliyah gone she could become the new queen because her relationship with Jay would bring her to that level. yes Bey Bey is THAT dirty. she stole everything from Aaliyah. her costumes, her music videos, her crossing over into acting. everything. very dirty. yet she sat up there and acted nice with miss queen Aaliyah cause she knew she would soon be taking the crown. And miss Rachel Roy was promised a career in fashion with Aaliyah out the way. cause Aaliyah was a fashion icon, yes she was. she made Tommy Hilfiger what it was today. she set trends. and miss thot roy got her fashion line. it did well for 2 years but then it completely flopped because the lord was NOT going to let anyone profit from aaliyah's death, no he wasnt. that is how good the lord is. amen. He made sure Aaliyah rested in peace and not a PENNY was made off her name. thats why that complete flop of a movie about Aaliyahs life made by miss wendy williams flopped. He was not having that. But back to Aaliyahs future. yes she was destined to be a star. The industry loved her, yes she did. And so did everyone else. I just wish Aaliyah listened to Miss Blige's warnings in her lyrics. and listened to her dreams. Aaliyah would dream about "flying high" and feeling very peaceful after flying. YES. she did. this is one month before she died she told a german magazine that. You see? the Lord was trying to protect her. but Aaliyah fought through it. cause of that low down dirty dog Dame Dash. And guess what? Bey aint safe now either. yeah she had her time but now the industry ready to make queen Rihanna the new it girl. Bey better be careful or they might do her in. they did Miss Keri Hilson in. they did miss fantasia barrino in. and miss jennifer hudson in cause they were not willign to be puppets. they already served the lord, yes they did. nope they had the integrity to not bow down. so the industry said "BYE" and destroyed their careers. cause thats what they do. its nasty. very very nasty. But enough about Beyonce back to Miss Aaliyah. her voice was amazing. her looks were amazing. her talent was there. she was destined for great things yes she was. and she is a legend. she had more impact on the music business than anyone out today. Look at all the new kids up on the block. Miss Ariana, miss tinashe, miss beyonce, miss rihanna. They all followed in Aaliyah footsteps. Aaliyah, Miss Brandy, Miss Monica, Miss Mariah , Miss Mary J, and Miss Jackson all paved the way for what the girls doing now. and y'all think whats happening now is new and exciting have a damn seat i seen this over and over again. there are no legends in this generation. everything just copied. copied from the true divas that paved the way. So yall keep listening to your new faves, thinking they changing the game but know that the rules were already made. yes they were. be blessed yall

Originally posted by KingOfUrbanPop

So I'm really confused so Aaliyah was a flop, weak vocals, couldn't dance, had no talent but Bey is a fan? Jay is a fan ? Sol is a fan ? Rih is a fan ? Drake is a fan ? Bran is a fan ? Mo is a fan ? Patti is a fan ? Whitney was a fan ? Janet was a fan ? But y'all claim she was the Tinashe of the 90s though why would all these people be checking for a talentless FLOP ? I mean give us that good Lipton since y'all hoes claim y'all know where her career would've went when it's negative but let someone say "I think she would've been successful" and y'all run talking about magical rewriting of history

Originally posted by Kool_Aid_King

LMAO This Kii. Brandy released a LOT of songs throughout her career. The same year Aaliyah had AANBAN, her singles started to bomb as soon as Brandy debuted with I Wanna Be Down. Then Brandy had Sittin Up in My Room in '96, which was bigger than every song from OIAM.

And you're absolutely right, but at that time, they were constantly pitting the women against each other. Brandy v Aaliyah v Monica was a HOT debate.



Brandy did not focus on R&B WTF are you smoking AALIYAH was the one with the debut album with 100% R&B Grooves. Brandy always did girly pop; not songs created by the pied piper of R&B Brandy's NSN had just as many pop joints as she did R&B joints. She was marketed as a GLOBAL artist, something Aaliyah and Monica never were.




You're absolutely right in the first statement. Bey would be where Bey is with or without Aaliyah.

People group her with Brandy & Monica because they were all young black teenage girls making R&B/Pop songs. It's interested that you bring up the direction Aaliyah was headed... Her "Futuristic" R&B album was based off of TLC's FanMail. ST was literally a mess with the experimental tracks. Plus Brandy went and perfected that sound in 2002 with Full Moon. You guys need to stop with the lies that Aaliyah was a good performer... sis was not Her vocals were weak and at the time of her death, her choreography was meh. She wasn't some Beyoncé the way you guys make her out to be. She didn't have the voice Brandy had; not even CLOSE and her moves didn't make up for it.

That's incorrect. Significant amount of Aaliyah singles flopped before her death lmao. Half of the singles from OIAM flopped, Whether it's the label's fault or not, a flop is a flop . Also first week sales were extremely irrelevant. Monica's After The Storm opened with her best sales at the time and it still ended up stalling and barely going Platinum.

Originally posted by 6_INCH_HEELS

Y'all can't handle facts. Period. And if we didn't discuss the Once upon a Times with your tired asses, you would have NOTHING to discuss, besides **** that happened 15 years ago.

Either way, stop bringing up Bey as some sort of highlight in Liyah's career.

And most importantly, stop trying to shade others by saying where they would/wouldn't be if your fave was still alive, just to turn around and get mad when you get corrected. Just because she's dead doesn't give you a free pass to say whatever the **** you want about someone else's fave.

Originally posted by Miley Ray Cyrus

She wasn't a illuminati member like Beyonce nor a hit-machine like Rihanna so she would end up as an obscure flop like Ashanti, Ciara, Brandy or Keri Hilson or need to team up with relevant artists to stay around (like Nicki Minaj)

Originally posted by Miley Ray Cyrus

She wasn't a illuminati member like Beyonce nor a hit-machine like Rihanna so she would end up as an obscure flop like Ashanti, Ciara, Brandy or Keri Hilson or need to team up with relevant artists to stay around (like Nicki Minaj)

Originally posted by Nippy'sReceipts

I think like Brandy and Mo, Aaliyah's career would be marred by a personal scandal. The R. Kelly scandal of the following year would have done damage to her music/movie career, and she probably would be the butt of endless pee jokes. Aaliyah was so low key-this would have been a horror for her. In a way, her death saved her from this. I am glad she was never forced to testify or put in the middle of the controversy.

During the trial, everyone knew he married Aaliyah at 15 but nobody (including the media) brought it up because they respected the dead

Originally posted by Djbrian

If that scandal would have ended her career it would have happened right after AANBAN not years later. She was able to overcome mainstream producers not wanting to work with her on OIAM, radio not playing her records due to that scandal and being constantly asked about that marriage throughout the OIAM era. Nobody was thinking about her and R.kelly being together during the 00s she successfully moved past that.

Originally posted by Miley Ray Cyrus

She wasn't a illuminati member like Beyonce nor a hit-machine like Rihanna so she would end up as an obscure flop like Ashanti, Ciara, Brandy or Keri Hilson or need to team up with relevant artists to stay around (like Nicki Minaj)

Originally posted by Djbrian

And the hive have the nerve to talk about fan fiction lmao. There are plenty of vocalist and choreographers that have praised Aaliyahs talents as a vocalist and dancer so there is no need for me to go back and forth with you about the nonsense you typed up. YouTube is your friend and no one had a problem with her voice when she slayed the national anthem w/out a band nor did they have a problem with her voice when she slayed the Oscar's becoming the youngest AA female performer to ever grace that stage at that time nor did they have a problem with her voice when she performed for Bill and Hilary for Xmas in Washington and sounded amazing and there were plenty of other performances that showcased her versatility as a vocalist. Bey wasn't the performer back then that she is today so no one has to make her seem like she was on Beys "level" when teenage Bey wasn't even on that level your speaking of.

What world did you live in to think Brandys 1st album had pop tracks on it lmao. It was just as urban, jazzy, and filled with hip hop undertones like Aaliyahs 1st album and nothing you said negates the fact that they pulled similar figures. I already acknowledged Brandy having a better selling sophomore album but you pointing out OIA flop singles just makes it more impressive that she was able to obtain multi platinum status with only 3 hit singles from that era.

Lastly Full Moon sounds NOTHING like the red album nor does us saying it was ahead of its time mean we think it had a futuristic aesthetic like FanMail. That album showcased that she had the ability to incorporate other genres into her work and based off the collaborations she had lined up it is easy to see she was moving towards a harder edge sound. The difference between Monica and Aaliyah was that Aaliyah actually was selling at a faster pace then she normally did in the past and she had films and more performances lined up to help promote her album Monica sold what she did solely off of So Gone Aaliyah sold what she sold based on her name alone since WNAR was a flop

Your whole post just screams hater and I have actually seen you hating and spreading the same lies time and time again even after your lies are debunked with credible receipts so I won't be entertaining you from this point forward.

BTW the same criticisms that you guys have for Aaliyah are the same ones other Stan bases have for Bey. Not being global(telephone allegedly being her biggest WW hit), not having as many hits as her peers(rihanna etc) and not having one mega selling album(britney, Adele hell even Alicia's 1st album or Mariahs comeback sold more than DIL) but despite that Beyonce is still on top so don't see how it could work for her but not Aaliyah