Originally posted by Mat.91

Barbaric

Where are them all?!

This is emberassing. Basic militar forces just follow orders. Moreover those soldier were just young boys. The officials should be be processed. But killing simple soldiers who just followed orders and refused to open fire against people... it's just barbaric.

Originally posted by Iris

Originally posted by J a y

Turkish PM says coup plotters not soldiers but terrorists who targeted parliament - Reuters.

Finally. Thank you for telling the truth, keep it coming..

You have people outside looking in thinking acts of violence were carried out by Turks. Clear their names.

Originally posted by Bangerzzz

What does that mean ?

Originally posted by Qudron

there's no way turkey is going to be in the EU. when the refugee crisis / isis is over we should throw them out of nato too

Originally posted by KylieistBoi

These are some photos after the soldiers surrendered, supporters of the ruling group were on streets. They are seriously disturbing so you might want to think twice before opening the links.

In the first one, they are trying to throw a soldier over Bosphorus. Bear in mind the soldier has surrendered and claims he doesn't know anything at all.



This second one is even more tragic, people apparently beheaded a soldier after shouting "allahu akbar" a few times. To think that they'll walk free without a punishment is even more saddening.


And in this one, I don't know what they are doing but it seems very familiar from ISIL photos that have been around forever.


These are the kinds of people (at least the majority of it) that is supporting them. We are at a very low point in our country and seems like there is no turning back

Originally posted by WiddLe

So lemme break it down whats goin on as a person who lived everything first hand last night. and basically livin for the last decade. There are only 2 possible scenarios for this.

1 This was all planned and staged. Officials knew about this and they did it to save the day and grow more power. (Since erdogan rulling the country for 14 years and he wants to continue till he dies basically.)
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Originally posted by WiddLe

So lemme break it down whats goin on as a person who lived everything first hand last night. and basically livin for the last decade. There are only 2 possible scenarios for this.

1 This was all planned and staged. Officials knew about this and they did it to save the day and grow more power. (Since erdogan rulling the country for 14 years and he wants to continue till he dies basically.)

2 The last remaining deep members of fetullah gulen cult decided to do this even tho they were not organized enough.

Because a lot things doesn't add up. We had internet / tv connection all the way. No communication lost. Party leaders were all safe and sound and was making statements on TV. If they had control over air traffic -all those jets flying and bombing- why they didn't just interfere the erdogan's plane and make him land somewhere else to get control of him. Why did they do this on a friday night ? Usually this kinda stuff goes down at dawn 5-6 am. People wake up to learn **** went down. Not witness. Why just block the bridge ? What's the importance of blockin that traffic ? Why were all the officials so calm ? Ofc they don't want to raise panic but even after the parliament was bombed still they were remained calm. Etc. this list goes on and on.

Results of this failure coup or so called coups are;

The country were already divided into two. People who are willing to do anything in the name of islam. even tho they are absolutely doin everything islam tells them not to. Just because erdoğan commands them to and since sometime now voters of him are seeing him as some sort of prophet. believing every word he says without even questioning. since lots of them are uneducated and raised like that.

and the other side who are still believin in secular system and wants to protect it. hell even the elections on this country usually ends up with %51-49.

and now islamist people are believin that they just prevent the coup from happening. that all the soldiers who did this are terrorists and threat to country. they were already hatin on people who doesn't share the same believe they had but couldn't do anything about it. (except for ramadan. every ramadan they are beating up people who eats/drinks/smokes on streets just because they can. they are "fasting" and acting against the rules of it at the same time. their ignorance level off the charts.) anyway but now they have more reason. if you are a minority; lgbt person, someone who is not actively participating in religous rituals such as prayers, fasting etc, or even have a different mindset from them they are willing to hurt you for it. and i'm not saying they are represent what islam is. on the contrary they are the furthest human beings that islam tells you to be. they are hatin on you in the name of islam but islam don't want you to hate one another.

this doesn't look like end up with a civil war but basically secular system basically just got destroyed last night. and today all the officials are on tv saying we just saved the democracy. they are not and were not following the rules of secular system since years now and they are now saying that they saved it and will try to protect it no matter what.

for the first time in forever in this country people who are extreme islamists (those who has long beard, has white weird hats, dressin long dresses) were on streets walking and praying out loud. because erdogan use the mosque's to make announcements all over the country to go out and protect the "democracy". they used religion as a tool for this to happen. there were call to prayer every 10 mins for 2-3 hours non stop. and the most ironic thing with that is those extremists are the ones who wants to destory the democray the most. they see females below them, they want to have multiple wifes etc all those stuff.

and now some hatin on soldiers and wants to kill them (some already have been killed, beated to death. there are some terrible footage out there.) . there were so many clueless soldiers participating in this. they were told they were just goin out to training. they are just 19-20 years old. not even ranked members of the military.

and some hatin on police and the goverment more. cause as i said this all leading up against secular system.

everyone blames one another and dividing more. and this is exactly what they want. to divide. they are gaining more power from these chaotic situations. like just an hour ago around 1500+ judge and public prosecutors are unseated.

no one can know if this was an organized houx or really attempted to do with an outnumbered military group. all for sure is that a group of powerful people want to make this country unsecular and be an islamic state. they are working towards this for years now. and now they are makin people bash each other while they just sit and watch. basic politics.

sorry for gramer mistakes. haven't slept in 20 hours.

Originally posted by WiddLe

So lemme break it down whats goin on as a person who lived everything first hand last night. and basically livin for the last decade. There are only 2 possible scenarios for this.

1 This was all planned and staged. Officials knew about this and they did it to save the day and grow more power. (Since erdogan rulling the country for 14 years and he wants to continue till he dies basically.)

2 The last remaining deep members of fetullah gulen cult decided to do this even tho they were not organized enough.

Because a lot things doesn't add up. We had internet / tv connection all the way. No communication lost. Party leaders were all safe and sound and was making statements on TV. If they had control over air traffic -all those jets flying and bombing- why they didn't just interfere the erdogan's plane and make him land somewhere else to get control of him. Why did they do this on a friday night ? Usually this kinda stuff goes down at dawn 5-6 am. People wake up to learn **** went down. Not witness. Why just block the bridge ? What's the importance of blockin that traffic ? Why were all the officials so calm ? Ofc they don't want to raise panic but even after the parliament was bombed still they were remained calm. Etc. this list goes on and on.

Results of this failure coup or so called coups are;

The country were already divided into two. People who are willing to do anything in the name of islam. even tho they are absolutely doin everything islam tells them not to. Just because erdoğan commands them to and since sometime now voters of him are seeing him as some sort of prophet. believing every word he says without even questioning. since lots of them are uneducated and raised like that.

and the other side who are still believin in secular system and wants to protect it. hell even the elections on this country usually ends up with %51-49.

and now islamist people are believin that they just prevent the coup from happening. that all the soldiers who did this are terrorists and threat to country. they were already hatin on people who doesn't share the same believe they had but couldn't do anything about it. (except for ramadan. every ramadan they are beating up people who eats/drinks/smokes on streets just because they can. they are "fasting" and acting against the rules of it at the same time. their ignorance level off the charts.) anyway but now they have more reason. if you are a minority; lgbt person, someone who is not actively participating in religous rituals such as prayers, fasting etc, or even have a different mindset from them they are willing to hurt you for it. and i'm not saying they are represent what islam is. on the contrary they are the furthest human beings that islam tells you to be. they are hatin on you in the name of islam but islam don't want you to hate one another.

this doesn't look like end up with a civil war but basically secular system basically just got destroyed last night. and today all the officials are on tv saying we just saved the democracy. they are not and were not following the rules of secular system since years now and they are now saying that they saved it and will try to protect it no matter what.

for the first time in forever in this country people who are extreme islamists (those who has long beard, has white weird hats, dressin long dresses) were on streets walking and praying out loud. because erdogan use the mosque's to make announcements all over the country to go out and protect the "democracy". they used religion as a tool for this to happen. there were call to prayer every 10 mins for 2-3 hours non stop. and the most ironic thing with that is those extremists are the ones who wants to destory the democray the most. they see females below them, they want to have multiple wifes etc all those stuff.

and now some hatin on soldiers and wants to kill them (some already have been killed, beated to death. there are some terrible footage out there.) . there were so many clueless soldiers participating in this. they were told they were just goin out to training. they are just 19-20 years old. not even ranked members of the military.

and some hatin on police and the goverment more. cause as i said this all leading up against secular system.

everyone blames one another and dividing more. and this is exactly what they want. to divide. they are gaining more power from these chaotic situations. like just an hour ago around 1500+ judge and public prosecutors are unseated.

no one can know if this was an organized houx or really attempted to do with an outnumbered military group. all for sure is that a group of powerful people want to make this country unsecular and be an islamic state. they are working towards this for years now. and now they are makin people bash each other while they just sit and watch. basic politics.

sorry for gramer mistakes. haven't slept in 20 hours.

Originally posted by Iris

Originally posted by AvrilLaQueen

the goverment want to bring back death penalty so that they would kill those soldiers... how democratic

Originally posted by GenieBaby

After seeing all these videos I'm really starting to grow hatred towards the Islam as a whole. I know it's wrong but it's enough already.

I know there are good muslims, not talking about them, I know plenty of amazing muslims. But let's be real the majority of Sunni Muslims have all similar beliefs.

Originally posted by Idontcareaboutyou

Many probably hate you far more for being gay than the hatred you might be feeling so don't feel too bad about it.

Originally posted by GenieBaby

I know what you mean sis. But I was always the first guy who would defend them because I felt sorry when I had to hear/read that every muslim is bad, a terrorist etc, which is obviously not true but I just can't see it anymore. I'm so getting tired of this.

Nobody deserves to die in the name of a book, of a god, or whatever else religion "offers". Believe in your god, say your prayers and respect every different belief. Is that really too much to ask for?