United States already has military in Turkey. Obama isn't shook.

I don't know the protocol for this though, surely the US wouldn't just capture and send Gulen to Turkey without reasonable explanation, unless it's proven he was involved in the coup attempt (which he has already stated he wasn't.)

Could have just requested the immediate return of Gulen but no, a threat to the US came with it.

I'm really confused as to what's going on now.

Unfortunately, this could be a very likely case.

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So lemme break it down whats goin on as a person who lived everything first hand last night. and basically livin for the last decade. There are only 2 possible scenarios for this.

1 This was all planned and staged. Officials knew about this and they did it to save the day and grow more power. (Since erdogan rulling the country for 14 years and he wants to continue till he dies basically.)

2 The last remaining deep members of fetullah gulen cult decided to do this even tho they were not organized enough.

Because a lot things doesn't add up. We had internet / tv connection all the way. No communication lost. Party leaders were all safe and sound and was making statements on TV. If they had control over air traffic -all those jets flying and bombing- why they didn't just interfere the erdogan's plane and make him land somewhere else to get control of him. Why did they do this on a friday night ? Usually this kinda stuff goes down at dawn 5-6 am. People wake up to learn **** went down. Not witness. Why just block the bridge ? What's the importance of blockin that traffic ? Why were all the officials so calm ? Ofc they don't want to raise panic but even after the parliament was bombed still they were remained calm. Etc. this list goes on and on.

Results of this failure coup or so called coups are;

The country were already divided into two. People who are willing to do anything in the name of islam. even tho they are absolutely doin everything islam tells them not to. Just because erdoğan commands them to and since sometime now voters of him are seeing him as some sort of prophet. believing every word he says without even questioning. since lots of them are uneducated and raised like that.

and the other side who are still believin in secular system and wants to protect it. hell even the elections on this country usually ends up with %51-49.

and now islamist people are believin that they just prevent the coup from happening. that all the soldiers who did this are terrorists and threat to country. they were already hatin on people who doesn't share the same believe they had but couldn't do anything about it. (except for ramadan. every ramadan they are beating up people who eats/drinks/smokes on streets just because they can. they are "fasting" and acting against the rules of it at the same time. their ignorance level off the charts.) anyway but now they have more reason. if you are a minority; lgbt person, someone who is not actively participating in religous rituals such as prayers, fasting etc, or even have a different mindset from them they are willing to hurt you for it. and i'm not saying they are represent what islam is. on the contrary they are the furthest human beings that islam tells you to be. they are hatin on you in the name of islam but islam don't want you to hate one another.

this doesn't look like end up with a civil war but basically secular system basically just got destroyed last night. and today all the officials are on tv saying we just saved the democracy. they are not and were not following the rules of secular system since years now and they are now saying that they saved it and will try to protect it no matter what.

for the first time in forever in this country people who are extreme islamists (those who has long beard, has white weird hats, dressin long dresses) were on streets walking and praying out loud. because erdogan use the mosque's to make announcements all over the country to go out and protect the "democracy". they used religion as a tool for this to happen. there were call to prayer every 10 mins for 2-3 hours non stop. and the most ironic thing with that is those extremists are the ones who wants to destory the democray the most. they see females below them, they want to have multiple wifes etc all those stuff.

and now some hatin on soldiers and wants to kill them (some already have been killed, beated to death. there are some terrible footage out there.) . there were so many clueless soldiers participating in this. they were told they were just goin out to training. they are just 19-20 years old. not even ranked members of the military.

and some hatin on police and the goverment more. cause as i said this all leading up against secular system.

everyone blames one another and dividing more. and this is exactly what they want. to divide. they are gaining more power from these chaotic situations. like just an hour ago around 1500+ judge and public prosecutors are unseated.

no one can know if this was an organized houx or really attempted to do with an outnumbered military group. all for sure is that a group of powerful people want to make this country unsecular and be an islamic state. they are working towards this for years now. and now they are makin people bash each other while they just sit and watch. basic politics.

sorry for gramer mistakes. haven't slept in 20 hours.

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This is so tragic OMG

In my humble opinion, this is what Venezuela needs to do .. they're starving etc.

Pray for the soldiers

There is no way this could happen. Even tho all of this voters are willing to do anything for him, this is not acceptable even for them. There is no possible way turkey or goverment or their voters goes along with this. Even if a slightest idea of this happening heard, %80-90 of those voters would turn against him and this is actually only thing that can make him lose power. Sadly. Other than this if he keeps playin his cards right there is no way he'll be unseated. This country is doomed and i'm stuck in it.

Stripped of their dignity

there's no way turkey is going to be in the EU. when the refugee crisis / isis is over we should throw them out of nato too

**** this. This is PRECISELY why I hate religions and strongly religious people. Forcing other people to live by your own believing is the pits. Even if it means harming and killing others because they disagree with what your beloved pedo said 1440 years ago? That's the unbelievably selfish and absurd and it I can't even describe how it irritates me. Unfortunately, I know who this feels. People just don't know how to mind their own damn business and let others live their lives the way they want. It's why I burst out blasphemous slurs at religious/extremely devoted people.

Anyways, I'm glad you're safe, sis.

I want them removed from NATO too.

Barbaric

Where are them all?!

This is emberassing. Basic militar forces just follow orders. Moreover those soldier were just young boys. The officials should be be processed. But killing simple soldiers who just followed orders and refused to open fire against people... it's just barbaric.

With all the important figures in the US supporting Erdogan, that surely won't happen

ddd and likely terrorist groups will have no problem making the journey through Bulgaria-Romania-Hungary-Austria with Germany, France, Italy, Belgium on their doorsteps. Probably not a good idea after all. I retract the idea 🙄

At this time I feel blessed that my country is surrounded by water, whatever the outcome may be.

Oh my ****ing god

Edit: Wait I just read the last part. Not all hope is lost.

This actually sums everything up. Thank you for this post! I havent slept for a long time as well, reading & watching whats happening. Its very quiet and calm now which leads me to think its actually scenario 1 is true. And i hate that all innocent civilians has to go through this just for some monster to gain more power and control. I hate this country.

That too, which is also the reason why they're not in the EU and probably won't be in the near future