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Discussion: Share Your Racist Experiences
Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by rawwritsmikey
But no one tried to justify what they did. 
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The whole "black people owned slaves too" argument is something I've heard over and over again by people trying to Justifiy (or maybe that is too strong of a word. Lessen the impact would be a better phrase) of something that some of their older relatives did.
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Member Since: 5/28/2012
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I hate the mentality that only black people can experience racism and any white people in this thread need to get out because it's not racism. This is a thread about racist experiences, however big or small or close to your definition of racism. Please stop with the paragraphs, like why do these threads always turn into some political mess
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Member Since: 1/2/2014
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Originally posted by Latch
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Pretty much exactly what I expect from most of the people in this thread..
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Member Since: 8/24/2008
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Originally posted by downbywednesday
The point is that they were viewed as a subhuman race and that's what caused discrimination against them (which includes genocide, slavery, low wages, public humiliation, loss of their rightful lands, job and education discrimination, etc.) Many politicians in the 18th and 19th centuries even classified them with blacks, or at least on the same level. The Irish weren't classified as white until very recently, and, even to this day, many view them as another race.
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Baby I am not denying that the Irish went through a hell of alot of ****, but that's still not racism. It's discrimination and it's bad as hell and shouldn't have happened, but racism it is not.
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Lemme try to explain this in a way that makes sense to everyone.
Based on the dictionary definition of racism, yes, anyone can be racist.
But because of hundreds of years of genocide, colonialism, gentrification, and slavery, the world is set up to be a White person's oyster. PoC aren't paid as much as our White counterparts, are in prisoned at a MUCH higher rate than White people, our lives still aren't valued as much as White lives (at least in the country that I live in).
This goes far beyond any individual PoC saying "I don't like White people". It's like comparing getting into a fistfight with an angry kitten vs. getting into a fistfight with a pack of full grown mountain lions.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
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Originally posted by bey0nce
I hate the mentality that only black people can experience racism and any white people in this thread need to get out because it's not racism. This is a thread about racist experiences, however big or small or close to your definition of racism. Please stop with the paragraphs, like why do these threads always turn into some political mess
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I agree.
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Member Since: 8/24/2008
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Originally posted by Blatboy
That wasn't directed at you. I was just using what you said as an example of people going to a greater length of that. And since Irish isn't a race, it is not racism. There's only 5 things classified races, I believe. White, Black, Hispanic, Indian, and Asian. (I think that's it?)
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Scientifically there is only the human race.
However if they are using race there are only three races: White, Black & Asian.
However since race is a social construct and not done by nature race can vary in different cultures which is why the US identifies Hispanic and Indian as separate races.
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Member Since: 3/2/2014
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Why can't we just love everyone ? We need world peace. But that's never going to happen. But it's sad people act there different. We all look like this behind our skin:

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Member Since: 6/9/2012
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Originally posted by Black Pearl
Stop being so self-righteous when you clearly know nothing. 
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oh yeah, i forgot, I'm white. Let me bow down to you for forgiveness. I know nothing, I am so sorry for offending you with my lack of intelligence.
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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by Callisto.
Baby I am not denying that the Irish went through a hell of alot of ****, but that's still not racism. It's discrimination and it's bad as hell and shouldn't have happened, but racism it is not.
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Yes, but even in Race, there are sub-classifications of Race. I.E. White (German, Polish, etc.); Hispanic (White Hispanic, Black Hispanic) so on and so forth. So just because someone is white doesn't mean you can't be racist to another White person. Etc.....
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Member Since: 6/9/2012
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Originally posted by Callisto.
Scientifically there is only the human race.
However if they are using race there are only three races: White, Black & Asian.
However since race is a social construct and not done by nature race can vary in different cultures which is why the US identifies Hispanic and Indian as separate races.
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Where would hispanic and indian people fall under in other countries?
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Member Since: 7/9/2010
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Originally posted by PrinceMichaelFan
Why can't we just love everyone ? We need world peace. But that's never going to happen. But it's sad people act there different. We all look like this behind our skin:

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Yeah but our skins are different. We don't need to act "color blind" to have equality. Yes I am black, that shouldnt stop you from treating me the same as you would treat a white person.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Callisto.
Baby I am not denying that the Irish went through a hell of alot of ****, but that's still not racism. It's discrimination and it's bad as hell and shouldn't have happened, but racism it is not.
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In the South the prejudice against the Irish took on a different twist. They were often compared with the slaves and were even called “******s turned inside out” while the slaves were referred to as “smoked Irish.” An English traveller noted that both Irish and African Americans “were viewed as outcasts.” To be called an Irishman, noted the visitor, “is almost as great an insult as to be stigmatized as a ****** feller.” Some jobs were even thought to be too dangerous for the slave population whereas no job was too risky for the Irish. They were preferred to the slaves when it came to working on the docks because, as one official put it, “The ******s are worth too much to be risked here; if the Paddies are knocked overboard, or get their backs broke, nobody loses anything.”
In the 1850s anti-Irish prejudice took on a new dimension. Prior to this time the common belief was that despite their ignorance and brutishness, the Irish could become educated and civilized. In the 1850s the element of race entered the picture and it transformed the image of the Irish. The stereotype of the Irish as ignorant, brutal, and depraved was now said to be rooted in their very nature and no amount of education would cure this.
http://www3.nd.edu/~jdolan/IRISHCONFERENCE-CORK.html
(Take note of "the element of race" bit)
If that was happening to blacks or another race, it'd be called racism, but this ain't?

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Member Since: 1/4/2014
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Originally posted by bey0nce
I hate the mentality that only black people can experience racism and any white people in this thread need to get out because it's not racism. This is a thread about racist experiences, however big or small or close to your definition of racism. Please stop with the paragraphs, like why do these threads always turn into some political mess
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This, I came in here for laughs, and we have gone into full debate mode.
Anyways, apparently, Chinese people only buy cats to eat.
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Member Since: 5/28/2012
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Originally posted by JonnyϟLightning
Yeah but our skins are different. We don't need to act "color blind" to have equality. Yes I am black, that shouldnt stop you from treating me the same as you would treat a white person.
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I swear you're not even black

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Member Since: 1/25/2012
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Originally posted by bey0nce
I hate the mentality that only black people can experience racism and any white people in this thread need to get out because it's not racism. This is a thread about racist experiences, however big or small or close to your definition of racism. Please stop with the paragraphs, like why do these threads always turn into some political mess
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Black people experience racism FAR MORE than white people. No one said only black people can experience racism, that does not make any sense.
Just take a look at this forum. Beyonce,Rihanna and others black artists get more racist comments here than white artists(if any).
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Member Since: 1/25/2012
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Since when was Jonny black? The lies...
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Member Since: 8/24/2008
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Originally posted by Blatboy
Where would hispanic and indian people fall under in other countries?
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Indian/Native Americans are asian.
Hispanics are a a big melting pot they could be white, black or asian, but alot are a mix of the three.
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Anyways, to give a few examples, people in high school used to think I'd get into a better college then them simply because I'm Black (not because of my outstanding test scores and good grades). Like that's true.
When I worked retail, customers assumed that I couldn't do my job right because of my race.
I get followed around in malls constantly. As if I need to steal from JCPenney's.
My three favorite artists (Janet Jackson, Mariah Carey, and Beyoncé) are compared to animals because of their race on this very website.
I've been called the n-word and people looked at me as if I was out of line for standing up for myself.
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Member Since: 1/5/2012
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Originally posted by karron0624
The whole "black people owned slaves too" argument is something I've heard over and over again by people trying to Justifiy (or maybe that is too strong of a word. Lessen the impact would be a better phrase) of something that some of their older relatives did.
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Yeah, that is a better way of wording that. I think it's that some people come across as saying only White people owned slaves, so they want to clarify that everyone has had slaves but also lessening the impact of what happened without realizing. I guess it's just miscommunications. 
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