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Discussion: Social Issues - Abortion
Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by Kamil24
I also think that many abortions occur with young girls that don't want to get in trouble with their parents (and who shouldn't be having sex in the first place), and probably think they will get kicked out if their parents find out.
Yes, your parents will be angry (and rightfully so), but they will accept and help raise the child. This "unwanted child" becomes a child they could not imagine their life without.
But yes, every case is different, and sometimes the child really would have a terrible upbringing, which is why this topic is debatable.
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Not always.
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Originally posted by Kamil24
Is it that hard to abstain from sex if you don't want a baby? But yeah, condoms work, and so does birth control (although I would recommend not poisoning the body)
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A condom can easily prevent having a child, while you these girls quench their sexual urges. I personally just find it kind of wrong that some of these girls have sex unprotected, end up pregnant, and then go to get it aborted. I wouldn't be surprise if some girls make it a routine to do this. I also feel an abortion should be use in extreme circumstances. Woman who get pregnant and don't experience complications can easily carry the baby to term and leave the baby in the hospital so someone who unfortunately can't have a baby of their own, can raise a child.
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Member Since: 5/14/2007
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I don't like abortions but I support a woman's right to choose.
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
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Originally posted by ririfan21
Why punish the child for the actions of the father/rapist?[/Color][/center]
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Why punish the woman for the actions of the father/rapist? what is more important, an embryo/fetus or a woman?
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Member Since: 6/10/2011
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Originally posted by ClarksonSlays
For those who say its a "woman's choice" I just want to throw in the fact that the woman did not self spawn a fetus. So unless the father is not in the picture, the father gets a say. No "woman's choice" crap. Sorry not sorry.
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Except the father isn't the one that has to carry the baby. I understand where you're coming from, the father should have a say, but at the end of the day, it is HER body that has to go through the pain. Sorry not sorry.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Vespertine
Is the father carrying the baby for 9 months, though? 
I don't really think this is a valid argument unless maybe you were married/in a long-term relationship, agreed to have a child, and then the mother changed her mind... in which case they should talk it out and come to a decision they're both happy with. |
This is more of what I meant. I don't like the idea of one person forcing a decision that impacts someone else without consent on both sides because of gender.
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Member Since: 1/2/2012
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A woman can do what she wants with her body, I'll leave it at that.
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Member Since: 7/23/2012
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There's always adoption.
In the past year, for every one adoption in America, there were 72 abortions. That's crazy.
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Member Since: 4/15/2011
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Originally posted by Kamil24
I also think that many abortions occur with young girls that don't want to get in trouble with their parents (and who shouldn't be having sex in the first place), and probably think they will get kicked out if their parents find out.
Yes, your parents will be angry (and rightfully so), but they will accept and help raise the child. This "unwanted child" becomes a child they could not imagine their life without.
But yes, every case is different, and sometimes the child really would have a terrible upbringing, which is why this topic is debatable.
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I understand what you're saying but this may not be the case for everyone.
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
A condom can easily prevent having a child, while you these girls quench their sexual urges. I personally just find it kind of wrong that some of these girls have sex unprotected, end up pregnant, and then go to get it aborted. I wouldn't be surprise if some girls make it a routine to do this. I also feel an abortion should be use in extreme circumstances. Woman who get pregnant and don't experience complications can easily carry the baby to term and leave the baby in the hospital so someone who unfortunately can't have a baby of their own, can raise a child.
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Pregnancy is hard, its not a minor inconvenience. And no one owes a baby to people that cant have them, not my problem sorry.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
A condom can easily prevent having a child, while you these girls quench their sexual urges. I personally just find it kind of wrong that some of these girls have sex unprotected, end up pregnant, and then go to get it aborted. I wouldn't be surprise if some girls make it a routine to do this. I also feel an abortion should be use in extreme circumstances. Woman who get pregnant and don't experience complications can easily carry the baby to term and leave the baby in the hospital so someone who unfortunately can't have a baby of their own, can raise a child.
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There are plenty of children who are in orphanages and will not be adopted. With the extreme cost of adopting, its ridiculous to insinuate that all birthed babies could be adopted.
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Member Since: 11/24/2006
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Originally posted by St. Charles
Why do people hate abortion so much? It's WAY better than having a baby grow up with an unprepared teenage mother. Also, it's better than sticking the child in a foster home where it will probably be beat, raped, bullied, etc. If the mother wants to have the child and knows people who would gladly take care of it, then so be it. But there's no sense in having a baby if you can't afford one. Don't do that to yourself.
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And why we/goverment shouldn't invest in foster homes. It sounds better than aborting a baby 
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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a sad sad thing but sometimes the only option unfortunately
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
A condom can easily prevent having a child, while you these girls quench their sexual urges. I personally just find it kind of wrong that some of these girls have sex unprotected, end up pregnant, and then go to get it aborted. I wouldn't be surprise if some girls make it a routine to do this. I also feel an abortion should be use in extreme circumstances. Woman who get pregnant and don't experience complications can easily carry the baby to term and leave the baby in the hospital so someone who unfortunately can't have a baby of their own, can raise a child.
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No birth controls are 100% effective.
I'd be willing to bet that the amount of women who have abortions routinely are a very, very low percentage of the total amount of abortions.
Yes, they can easily carry the baby full term, but nobody else should tell them whether or not they should. Also, there's no way of knowing if they'll experience complications or not. The entire pregnancy, birth, and sometimes even the time post-partum is extremely demanding on a woman's body.
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
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Originally posted by ririfan21
Why punish the child for the actions of the father/rapist?[/Color][/center]
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Since when is a fetus a child?
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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I'm just against abortion. I think it's wrong because it's ending a viable life. Being a live is such an experience and to rob a potential human of that is just awful to me. You don't even know if that baby going to be a superstar or what.
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Member Since: 7/22/2012
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Honestly, I believe it is a woman's choice and her choice only. A man should not have a say in it whatsoever because we don't anything about carrying a fetus inside our bodies.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by RylanJames
16, broke, no college or money... will go on assistance and the parents will pay. If you live in LA there are so many teen parents and it is so sad.
You are right but it isn't right to go through that....at all. Have a child when you are ready so you both can live normal lives
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Yes but it rarely ends up happening when people expect it so there are always things that could be better and at the same time it's up to the individual to decide how well their child's childhood will be. A parent and especially a mother will do anything and everything to make sure their kids have everything they need and more regardless of if they're 16 or 36.I know people who had kids at 16 or younger for that and did what they needed to do so thats kinda no excuse. That assistance is there for a reason...too many resources for someone to say they have no way to take car of their kid that they decided to have when they had sex with no protection.
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Member Since: 9/13/2012
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Oh and for all the "if you don't want a baby, don't have sex" stuff, that's so easy for men to say ESPECIALLY here where it's 90% gay men who have luxury of never worrying about accidental pregnancies. Totally not fair to women.
If a condom breaks and you end up with an STD, should we just say, "oh well you shouldn't have ever been having sex if you didn't want an STD" ?
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Member Since: 10/2/2011
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Surprised this isn't locked yet.
The be all, end all social politics issue that IMO, will never die. The arguments will forever be unresolved and will forever be tossed around the court systems for generations to come.
Access should be safe and easy for pregnancy as a result of abortion or incest as I don't believe someone's religiously-motivated, symbolic definition of life beginning at conception should be able to dictate legislation over a woman's body in a secular society.
Similarly, the opinion of the human birthing said child takes precedence over the person just providing the sperm in my opinion, so the fact that men are allowed to run policy on this at all to me is mind-blowing.
Past whatever point research says the fetus feels pain is not appropriate but shouldn't necessarily be legislated against…on a case by case basis, hopefully the woman reaches safe access to the procedure before that unfortunate point arrives.
After that point, it's not my place to make a sweeping judgment against women that still need said abortion (at whatever trimester it is) given whatever traumatic back-story could possibly be involved. But do I think it's sad at that point…yes. If I had to legislate regarding this last, thorny issue, I honestly don't know how I'd decide.
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