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Discussion: Social Issues - Abortion
Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I don't understand why this will get locked though? It's a valid discussion. I want us all to speak about problems we face as a society and give our viewpoints. As stated in the OP, I won't tolerate any sort of offensive or disruptive behaviour and I'm sure other members will report if they see offensive posts. If the mods can monitor threads like SYG, I don't see why they can't do the same with this.
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
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Member Since: 4/15/2011
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Originally posted by Kamil24
I don't agree with abortion unless it was rape or the mother's life is in danger. If you don't want a baby, don't have sex.
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I agree with this however there is still the issue of irresponsible people bringing a child into the world that they probably don't want. What conditions would this child be living in? Having said that however, it is also unfair to deprive a child of life just because two people didn't do the appropriate measures. It's very conflicting. The only thing I do know is that I am totally against banning abortions completely, particularly due to certain cases such as rape like you say.
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Member Since: 10/31/2011
Posts: 16,937
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Men legislating a women's body = NAGL. If preganancy was something that men went through, it would never have even been up for discussion.
And how are you supposed to be sure a pregnancy happened through rape? That's just dumb. Putting every woman through a humiliating, emotionally scarring vaginal probe and being forced to look at your own ultrascan? Oh wait that's already happening.
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Originally posted by Ice Cream Skies
I don't think abortion should be illegal because I don't think it's fair to tell women what they should do with their bodies. That said, am I okay with it? Not really, no. Of course, I understand wanting to undergo an abortion after something traumatic like rape, but if you're 15 years old & having sex, you're taking that responsibility into your own hands & you should be prepared to deal with whatever consequences arise from that.
Contraceptives are available & sometimes even for free.
People need to educate themselves & hold themselves accountable for decisions they make with their bodies.
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Terminating a fetus is taking responsibility for your actions though.
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Member Since: 8/22/2011
Posts: 9,429
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I support it no matter why the woman made the decision to go through with it she deserves that option and to make that choice. I'm also not comfortable with the position if it isn't rape or her life is in danger she must go through with it. I feel it's not my decision to force a woman to go through a pregnancy (that can potentially be high risk) like that and bring someone into this world she is not going to love and could suffer as a result.
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Member Since: 8/17/2013
Posts: 19,066
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I very pro choice tbh. If the parent can't afford to raise the child, it needs to be aborted. Especially teen moms.
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Member Since: 6/6/2012
Posts: 25,442
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Originally posted by StephenNYMonster
This right here. I had to make a change to that end though.
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Is it that hard to abstain from sex if you don't want a baby? But yeah, condoms work, and so does birth control (although I would recommend not poisoning the body)
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
Posts: 11,976
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
I very pro choice tbh. If the parent can't afford to raise the child, it needs to be aborted. Especially teen moms.
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Pretty much. Why would ANYONE want to put a child through a horrible upbringing?
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Member Since: 8/6/2012
Posts: 16,779
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I'm a bit of both.
Abortion laws should be stricter but not demolished.
People who abort their children just because it's a girl = disgusting.
But if you NEED one, you need one. I cannot stand people who think it's ok to make it illegal, cause then women are just going to use self-methods to abort their child. (The good ol' rusty hammer or punching of the stomach)
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Member Since: 5/7/2012
Posts: 41,067
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Originally posted by Great Username
Men legislating a women's body = NAGL. If preganancy was something that men went through, it would never have even been up for discussion.
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!! Can you imagine how many abortions men would be getting if they were capable of getting pregnant? Especially gay men? They think it's alright to sit here and say they don't agree with it because being faced with an unwanted pregnancy (in their own body) isn't something they have to deal with. Look at all the men that leave once they learn their girl is knocked up. That's the equivalent to getting an abortion basically. They don't want to deal with it.
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Member Since: 6/17/2012
Posts: 1,297
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Pro choice all the way. you have no right to tell someone else what to do with their body. The right to bodily autonomy is important and women should not be punished with something as difficult as pregnancy and child birth for having sex.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 20,070
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I am rather conflicted when it comes to abortions.
On the one hand, I'd like to think I am pro-choice. A woman should be able to do what she wants with her own body. On the other hand, I don't think a woman should use abortion as a way of birth control, which indirectly means I am telling her what she can/can't do with her own body.
While I think it's a woman's choice, I also think that the man's opinion should be respected, but then again I don't think they should have the final say in things.
It's not black and white - there's a lot of gray areas - and it's one of those issues I'm still struggling to find exactly where I stand.
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Member Since: 9/16/2011
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Originally posted by Great Username
Terminating a fetus is taking responsibility for your actions though.
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I guess, but I see it more as getting rid of a problem someone doesn't want to deal with. Escaping responsibility moreso than owning up to a mistake. However, like I said, I believe every woman has a right to choose. Who am I to say what's right or wrong?
That said, I've heard of girls having multiple abortions just because they aren't using contraceptives of any form, & that's when I start to have a real problem with it.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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I think that people should have the choice because ultimately it's their body and they're going to get rid of the baby so to speak one way or another so it's best that they have a safe option to do it if they choose to. However, I also believe that if you don't want to have a kid then don't have sex or either take every precaution that you can and not get an abortion cause it's the "easy way out".
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Member Since: 10/31/2011
Posts: 16,937
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Originally posted by Kamil24
Is it that hard to abstain from sex if you don't want a baby? But yeah, condoms work, and so does birth control (although I would recommend not poisoning the body)
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No contraceptive is 100% effective. 
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Member Since: 1/3/2014
Posts: 4,012
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I'm pro choice, so I really don't care what a woman decides to do with their unborn child. If a woman feels she can't care for it properly, let it go. A fetus doesn't even comprehend suffering, let alone is it aware of its existence, so out of all the neglected, suffering babies out there, why bring another into this world? Adoption isn't always pretty either, so even if it does wonders for happy couples, there's still children out there put in homes, living under foster care without a loving parent.
There's also rape.
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Member Since: 10/31/2011
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Originally posted by Ice Cream Skies
I guess, but I see it more as getting rid of a problem someone doesn't want to deal with. Escaping responsibility moreso than owning up to a mistake..
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Well it's a bit much to bring an unwanted child into this world in order to 'own up to a mistake'.
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Member Since: 8/4/2012
Posts: 23,716
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Originally posted by QueenCarrie
I am rather conflicted when it comes to abortions.
On the one hand, I'd like to think I am pro-choice.
A woman should be able to do what she wants with her own body. On the other hand, I don't think a woman should use abortion as a way of birth control, which indirectly means I am telling her what she can/can't do with her own body.
While I think it's a woman's choice, I also think that the man's opinion should be respected, but then again I don't think they should have the final say in things.
It's not black and white - there's a lot of gray areas - and it's one of those issues I'm still struggling to find exactly where I stand.
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An abortion isn't dealing with her body. She dealing with someone else's life.
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Member Since: 1/1/2013
Posts: 13,978
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I'm pro-choice. Old white men in suits don't have the right to tell a woman what she can due for her body. I go to a Catholic school and a few weeks ago we had a "pro-life rally" which we were forced to go to for an hour and it pissed me off so much. They were comparing abortion to slavery and then telling us to go pray outside of abortion clinics. Absolutely ridiculous.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by St. Charles
Pretty much. Why would ANYONE want to put a child through a horrible upbringing?
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That's not a big enough reason for someone to get rid of their child though...do you know how many people have had horrible childhoods but came out of it stronger and better than people who had a great childhood?
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