I've noticed we've come to a point where people are getting too nostalgic of the way things once were. Like for example, you usually hear artists trying to bring back something, or trying to replicate the sounds of the past. But whatever happened to trying to create something new and unheard of? People are getting really unoriginal and just taking things thats already been done instead of building on things that has already happened. Its getting annoying now, I've noticed this trend for years now, but now its actually intensifying. For me nothing is worse than this decade being the one that was so consumed with the past that it didn't develop its own identity.
Yes, but not just in music. For example, people are still holding onto the idea that gas prices can once again be where they were in 2002. It's never going to happen.
To get back to music, one thing I like about Gaga and her team is they are taking a nosedive into the digital age and not looking back or remembering "the good old days". They are thinking for the future. I can't wait to see what their release strategy is for ARTPOP.
In music though a lot of people tend to "re-live" the past because its hard to be completely original now-a-days . Any genre hybrid mash up you can think of , more than likely has already been done a handful of times over. However this shouldn't be an excuse for artists to just completely stop trying. Think about Gaga , and how dynamic her career is . Its not because she follows current trends , its because she pushes the boundaries and people respect that.
In music though a lot of people tend to "re-live" the past because its hard to be completely original now-a-days . Any genre hybrid mash up you can think of , more than likely has already been done a handful of times over. However this shouldn't be an excuse for artists to just completely stop trying. Think about Gaga , and how dynamic her career is . Its not because she follows current trends , its because she pushes the boundaries and people respect that.
That isn't really true. In fact we haven't even gotten started, music is rehashing because they aren't exploring new sounds. Take this video, it explains it better than I. But in short, we are nowhere near running out of ideas. We're just too lazy.
Absolutely, especially American Society. We cling to the past and the decadence of the 50s where America was the wealthiest and arguably the most powerful nation in the world. Wars and Reagan ruined that but some people just can't seem to let it go. That was a time when Religion was used as a tool by the government to bash the Soviet Union, so therefore religious aspects of life made their way to the forefront of politics. Now those policies are looked down upon and religious individuals can't deal with that fact.. so they fight.
edit: I went the historical route when you meant music. Whoops. But yes Music is also clingy to the past, well especially on a site like atrl with many stans clinging to past efforts to justify what their fav does here. Many artists also cling to the past by not pushing boundaries and playing it safe in music. Taylor Swift is an example, but its not bad for her. She sticks to what she does best without pushing boundaries.
In regards to music, I don't mind a retro sound so long as it takes it to a new place. It can recall the past without reliving it. That's what I don't like about Get Lucky. It's sounds too much like an 80s song, not like an 80s-inspired song. Also the Suit & TIe video and the whole retro vibe he's been doing is so tired to begin with, not to mention completely uninspired.
Overall though I agree, that we should not be as nostalgic as we are. I for one hate how the 80s were so popular in music, fashion, etc. in the last few years (and still is for some) and how the 90s styles are coming back. It just seems lazy. I credit it to the people who are recently becoming adults thinking back to when they were young, and referencing those styles. For example, in the mid 2000s when the 80s were popular, 20 year olds who were "80's babies" were being nostalgic about that time. Like I said, it's fine to be inspired but when I see people just replicating the 90s completely I think they don't really have a style of their own, and are just relying on trends.
That isn't really true. In fact we haven't even gotten started, music is rehashing because they aren't exploring new sounds. Take this video, it explains it better than I. But in short, we are nowhere near running out of ideas. We're just too lazy.
I agree. The music business dont experiment with new sounds/music anymore because there are a always risks. When you have "earning money" as goal, then experimenting with new sounds in not a good strategy.
Absolutely, especially American Society. We cling to the past and the decadence of the 50s where America was the wealthiest and arguably the most powerful nation in the world. Wars and Reagan ruined that but some people just can't seem to let it go. That was a time when Religion was used as a tool by the government to bash the Soviet Union, so therefore religious aspects of life made their way to the forefront of politics. Now those policies are looked down upon and religious individuals can't deal with that fact.. so they fight.
edit: I went the historical route when you meant music. Whoops. But yes Music is also clingy to the past, well especially on a site like atrl with many stans clinging to past efforts to justify what their fav does here. Many artists also cling to the past by not pushing boundaries and playing it safe in music. Taylor Swift is an example, but its not bad for her. She sticks to what she does best without pushing boundaries.
Ya I hate how whenever someone wants to look "classy" and "glamourous" they always default to the 40s, 50s, and 60s as if we can't be glamourous in our own time.
Just look at the Oscar's red carpet. Everyone has these Old-Hollywood swept hair and it's boring.
I mean everyone gets a bit nostalgic from time to time, I do think that society tends to do it often though. From films to television shows and music and a vast array of other things as well. .
Let's not mix past with justice, because what first came to my head was the Spanish Civil War and its mass graves, these people for instance have got the right to be found by their families and have an honorable funeral, as well as the authors of this tragedy must face a trial and pay for what they did
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Yes, because there was only the war going on at the time. And also, I would have been forced to stay home anyway. I have one less dick than required to serve.
I feel society, especially the younger generation, doesn't give a crap about history anymore.
I mean everyone hates history lessons these days which is a shame in my opinion since history can teach you a lot of things.But I guess you are refering to this in a more cultural way?
I don't get why a lot of people hate modern music.
I mean there is music past the charts that doesn't have to hide behind the music made 20 years ago.
But nostaligia is normal I mean I would've killed to see some bands live that were on tour before I was born.
People generally like the comfort of familiarity and not being challenged by the unknown. The past, therefore, appeals to them more than the uncertainty of future. They can also look back and select the good, ignoring the bad. You don't get that selection process with the present or future.
To apply that to music, another human flaw is to crave validation and acceptance. We see it in the present when people are sheep to trends, bandwagon, hold off opinions until they can gauge the "right" one and change their mind later. It's easier to say you like an artist, an album or a song that has a general consensus - we know what to think and the currency your opinion will have with others. ATRL is particularly bad for liking or disliking something based on popularity or success, as if it an indicator of quality or taste.
In terms of creating music, it's simply a case of safety and familiarity. It's easy to take from the past, but it's hard to create the future. It's even harder to predict what people will like in the future, but it's easy to know what worked in the past. A lot of the time the problem is labels, though. There are artists out there pushing new sounds and ideas, but the suits don't like risk so sign safer bets - i.e. artists taking marketable sounds and ideas from the past.
Yes, but not just in music. For example, people are still holding onto the idea that gas prices can once again be where they were in 2002. It's never going to happen.
To get back to music, one thing I like about Gaga and her team is they are taking a nosedive into the digital age and not looking back or remembering "the good old days". They are thinking for the future. I can't wait to see what their release strategy is for ARTPOP.
Wasn't Born This Way supposed to be 80's and 90's influenced though?
Anyways, I don't get the big deal. Not every artist is a singer because they want to change the game or push boundaries. Some really are in it because they love to sing and perform the kind of music they love and are inspired by.
Who cares?
EDIT: And with electronic music, every sound possible has been done with music. And unless everyone does electronic music, then i don't get how much further music can be pushed to where it's still enjoyable.
The point of music is to be catchy and be representative of a feeling. That will never change. How it sounds doesn't matter.
