Why is female sexuality seen as such a bad thing? Lets look at Rihanna and Taylor Swift (arguably the 2 biggest stars in the world right now). Taylor has faced huge criticism and has been publicly humiliated for dating a lot of guys and Rihanna has also been attacked for her raunchy image. However it's ok for a man to date and **** as many guys as he wants. Justin Bieber takes off his shirt at every concert and faces no criticism so why is female sexuality seen as so wrong? It's 2013 yet it seems society still expects women to act chaste and passive (although then women will get called prudes).
I think the difference is that men in general are rather seeing women as sexual objects than women see men. Many men still believe that women are only for sex and I don't see that attitude in many women. In the end, both men and women use sex to sell and that has always happened and that will always happen. The reason I don't like it that much is because I feel that other women are pressured to do the same and get critisized if they don't fit the norm. E.g. Kelly Clarkson is a pretty woman. In fact, many normal guys would be happy to be with a girl that has her looks. But since she's famous and the music industry is all about the looks rather than the music, she's getting bashed for it by inconfident reporters and people who look ugly and like to make themselves feel better.
The question is: why does Rihanna dress so raunchy? If she does it to express herself: no problem.
If she does it just to please the male audience? Then she lets herself being used as an object.
As for Taylor Swift: I couldn't care less. It's her business whom she is with and you're right, she shouldn't be critisized for it.
I think the difference is that men in general are rather seeing women as sexual objects than women see men. Many men still believe that women are only for sex and I don't see that attitude in many women. In the end, both men and women use sex to sell and that has always happened and that will always happen. The reason I don't like it that much is because I feel that other women are pressured to do the same and get critisized if they don't fit the norm. E.g. Kelly Clarkson is a pretty woman. In fact, many normal guys would be happy to be with a girl that has her looks. But since she's famous and the music industry is all about the looks rather than the music, she's getting bashed for it by inconfident reporters and people who look ugly and like to make themselves feel better.
The question is: why does Rihanna dress so raunchy? If she does it to express herself: no problem.
If she does it just to please the male audience? Then she lets herself being used as an object.
As for Taylor Swift: I couldn't care less. It's her business whom she is with and you're right, she shouldn't be critisized for it.
I think Rihanna doesn't act raunchy to please men but rather to exploit them for sales which I personally think is a good thing since she's almost turning the tables on men who exploit women for sex. I agree women or anyone for that matter shouldn't just be expected to look or act a certain way just to fit the norm especially when the norm involves ridiculously high standards.
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I think a lot of sexism is due to religion. In the bible women are portrayed quite negatively. Eve is shown as the weak willed who screwed everything up for humanity and Mary Magdalen is a promiscuous woman who needs a man to save her. Then you have the Virgin Mary who's portrayed positively because she fits the stereotypical role of a woman (pure, mild and submissive)..
I want to punch every one in the face that uses that stupid "A masterkey that unlocks many locks is great but a lock that needs a lot of keys to open is a bad luck" quote. I mean how stupid is that?
Women should be free to express themselves sexually. I never understood why people want to put it down.
i don't agree that female sexuality in music is perceived badly as a whole, i just think that some women are better at portraying sexuality in a classy, respectable way. there's nothing respectable (in my opinion) about strutting around a stage at an awards show in as little as possible in a blatant attempt to cause a stir.
If women were religiously recognised sexually,
we wouldn't have to feel the need to show our ass - it's too feel-free,
been there, done that, got the T-Shirt,
sold my soul and yeah, the truth hurt,
tired image of a star acting naughtier than we really are!
People are still caught up in their old fashioned views of female sexuality, and female stars are all rebelling by exaggerating their sexuality for the audience. So then people think that female stars are only doing this for attention instead of being themselves and that's where the current problem lies, hence these women constantly being criticised for being "too sexy" all of the time.
If women were religiously recognised sexually,
we wouldn't have to feel the need to show our ass - it's too feel-free,
been there, done that, got the T-Shirt,
sold my soul and yeah, the truth hurt,
tired image of a star acting naughtier than we really are!
People are still caught up in their old fashioned views of female sexuality, and female stars are all rebelling by exaggerating their sexuality for the audience. So then people think that female stars are only doing this for attention instead of being themselves and that's where the current problem lies, hence these women constantly being criticised for being "too sexy" all of the time.
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It's sad how some people are still caught up in either old fashioned views or double standarts.
I agree how most popstars make it worse.
There are popstars who are maturally sexy and can sing about it in a normal way while some people are so "in your face" that they have the exact opposite effect
It's 2013 and sexism isn't over, just look at sites like 9gag, reddit or 4chan. And we live in rape culture. The most ironic part of rape culture to me is the fact, that men are portrayed as uncontrolable beasts for whom women have to maintain a certain dress code to be safe. They prefer it the way it is with being able to blame the woman because "she was asking for it, wearing that dress".
Straight white men are still the majority in power and they force the world to fit their vision. And they like it the way it is, because it's the most comfortable social situation they ever could've been in. It's frustrating for women, they become feminists, but white males don't want to give up their comfy seats so they create masculinism, and suddenly "feminists" are portrayed everywhere as deranged psycho women who want the world for themselves.
There's a conflict with stars like Rihanna or Lady Gaga because pop girls, in this male dominated world, are forced to make a statement - if they are being sexy to free themselves from the boundaries of the male influence, or they want to be sexy for "them boyz think they hot". I personally think both represent the former option, since the main audience of pop music are females and gay men (hence why most straight guys refuse to listen to pop music, labeling it as girly and gay - they may feel a bit threatened by the sexual liberty pop women represent).
As for the Taylor Swift case, this is unfortunately partly the fault of women - they are simply jealous. We tend to be vicious when protecting our territory, and some of the fangirls really think that Harry or Jake or Taylor belong to them. They spread the hate. Of course I'm not denying that, once again, men are threatened seeing an innocent looking vixen in media. So they prefer calling her a ****, just for their own order to remain, instead of reasoning (I am one of the few, maybe naiive, people who believe that Taylor doesn't like to "put it out" early and that's why so many men dump her).
I hope it all makes sense, since it's a very important matter to me.
If tl;dr - it's all because white men like their comfortable, dominant position in the society and they aren't willing to give it up.
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Originally posted by JungleDisturbia
If women were religiously recognised sexually,
we wouldn't have to feel the need to show our ass - it's too feel-free,
been there, done that, got the T-Shirt,
sold my soul and yeah, the truth hurt,
tired image of a star acting naughtier than we really are!
People are still caught up in their old fashioned views of female sexuality, and female stars are all rebelling by exaggerating their sexuality for the audience. So then people think that female stars are only doing this for attention instead of being themselves and that's where the current problem lies, hence these women constantly being criticised for being "too sexy" all of the time.
If history could set you free from who you were supposed to be
This is exactly why I stan for her.
OH MY GOD is this really a question? You know EXACTLY why.
Women have always been either the Virgin Mary or Salome. There is no in between, like there is with men.
It is ENGRAINED in our culture and will continue to do so until there are radical changes.
If women were religiously recognised sexually,
we wouldn't have to feel the need to show our ass - it's too feel-free,
been there, done that, got the T-Shirt,
sold my soul and yeah, the truth hurt,
tired image of a star acting naughtier than we really are!
People are still caught up in their old fashioned views of female sexuality, and female stars are all rebelling by exaggerating their sexuality for the audience. So then people think that female stars are only doing this for attention instead of being themselves and that's where the current problem lies, hence these women constantly being criticised for being "too sexy" all of the time.
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Originally posted by MadelineXPepito
It's 2013 and sexism isn't over, just look at sites like 9gag, reddit or 4chan. And we live in rape culture. The most ironic part of rape culture to me is the fact, that men are portrayed as uncontrolable beasts for whom women have to maintain a certain dress code to be safe. They prefer it the way it is with being able to blame the woman because "she was asking for it, wearing that dress".
Straight white men are still the majority in power and they force the world to fit their vision. And they like it the way it is, because it's the most comfortable social situation they ever could've been in. It's frustrating for women, they become feminists, but white males don't want to give up their comfy seats so they create masculinism, and suddenly "feminists" are portrayed everywhere as deranged psycho women who want the world for themselves.
There's a conflict with stars like Rihanna or Lady Gaga because pop girls, in this male dominated world, are forced to make a statement - if they are being sexy to free themselves from the boundaries of the male influence, or they want to be sexy for "them boyz think they hot". I personally think both represent the former option, since the main audience of pop music are females and gay men (hence why most straight guys refuse to listen to pop music, labeling it as girly and gay - they may feel a bit threatened by the sexual liberty pop women represent).
As for the Taylor Swift case, this is unfortunately partly the fault of women - they are simply jealous. We tend to be vicious when protecting our territory, and some of the fangirls really think that Harry or Jake or Taylor belong to them. They spread the hate. Of course I'm not denying that, once again, men are threatened seeing an innocent looking vixen in media. So they prefer calling her a ****, just for their own order to remain, instead of reasoning (I am one of the few, maybe naiive, people who believe that Taylor doesn't like to "put it out" early and that's why so many men dump her).
I hope it all makes sense, since it's a very important matter to me.
If tl;dr - it's all because white men like their comfortable, dominant position in the society and they aren't willing to give it up.
If history could set you free from who you were supposed to be
This is exactly why I stan for her.
I thought both of these posts were really interesting and true. There's definitely a lot of sexism in todays society. I also think often it's women hating on other women like in Taylor's case. BTW Madeline do you do sociology by any chance? It's just we discuss a lot of the points you mentioned in Sociology.
I thought both of these posts were really interesting and true. There's definitely a lot of sexism in todays society. I also think often it's women hating on other women like in Taylor's case. BTW Madeline do you do sociology by any chance? It's just we discuss a lot of the points you mentioned in Sociology.
That Taylor case is very frustrating to me, because it shows how we can't unite and do something good with all that energy that's put into hating.
And no, I'm an art student, but those are just the things I notice as a woman living in a country that is very conservative and church-dependant
Although I love discussing those topics, I usually choke when I have to present my point of view verbally.
There's embracing female empowerment and sexuality RESPECTFULLY ....and then there's pretending to stand up for women by showing off your body in a lewd manner because you're so "carefree"
There's embracing female empowerment and sexuality RESPECTFULLY ....and then there's pretending to stand up for women by showing off your body in a lewd manner because you're so "carefree"
But notice this - all the dress codes for women, in every culture, are given to them by men. We rarely had any say in this, only now (and it's still subordinate to men's tastes in female beauty). Girls in schools are punished for wearing tank tops on hot days.
I've never seen a popstar flashing a vagina, only breasts. Well, ok, I haven't seen the Madonna photobook. I understand why everyone covers their genitals, no matter the gender - if we all have to hide them equally, it's fine. What I don't get is the oversexualization of almost every inch of female body - breasts, neck, legs. There are many cultures in the world that don't see breasts as something sexual, in fact they don't objectify the whole body, only genitals.
I'm not saying that I want to run around topless all the time (bras are cool and make the day more comfortable), but it would be nice to have the same possibility to take off my shirt in public on a hot day, just like many guys do, without being shamed as an attention seeking ****. When a guy takes his shirt off in public it's cool and stuff, almost every male singer, rapper, musician in the industry did it at least once.
Is there a part of a body that is not called penis and that men can't show because it'd make them "****s"? I don't think so.
That Taylor case is very frustrating to me, because it shows how we can't unite and do something good with all that energy that's put into hating.
And no, I'm an art student, but those are just the things I notice as a woman living in a country that is very conservative and church-dependant
Although I love discussing those topics, I usually choke when I have to present my point of view verbally.
I love your posts. Lots of true tea spilled. And agreed that Taylor case is so frustrating. The ****shaming is disgusting. A lot of it done here as well, btw. There is absolutely 0 evidence that dating even means sex to her. And if it does she should not be shamed for that as well.
Society is not ready to let patriarchy go. Sexism will be dictating these kind of relations for decades from now i am afraid.
And agreed that Taylor case is so frustrating. The ****shaming is disgusting. A lot of it done here as well, btw. There is absolutely 0 evidence that dating even means sex to her. And if it does she should not be shamed for that as well. 