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Celeb News: Azealia B drags Iggy, Iggy wins :clap3:
Member Since: 12/4/2011
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Originally posted by Eros
Listen, Iggy is only the catalyst in this whole conversation because she blew up and because she had support in the background to blow up via TIP. If AB was really bothered about this she wouldn't be supporting and being friendly with people like Kreayshawn & Debbie and whoever else. Yet she is because Kreay and them flopped.
I'm a huge fan and supporter of BOTH Iggy and Azealia (I know that's a bit of a contradiction to most of y'all here since you guys go hard for either or, not both) and I can sit here and say both of them are part of the problem. Azealia is talking about a much larger picture but is using Iggy as the subject to get the message across easier and make it seem justified. The thing is, had Iggy not blown up, no one would care about what she's saying. Azealia still wouldn't like Iggy tho, she NEVER did. Even before Iggy blew up.
My point here is, Azealia has never liked Iggy. She's really mad and bitter about the fact that there's a system designed for women like Iggy to capitalize off of other cultures and have no repercussions by it at large. And I agree with her on that. But you can't sit her and blame Iggy for it because the issue is MUCH larger than Iggy herself. The solution AB wants is for people to look at Iggy as some lame phony artist and to no longer be supported, she wants to tear her image down. That's why she's constantly bringing HER up specifically. She's not bringing up all these other white chicks who tried or are trying to do the exact same thing (Kreay, Debbie, that stripper one who's name I can't remember rn) because she has no personal beef with them. But you can't really be talking about this larger picture and excluding all of these names, especially when she's CLEARLY aware of them, just because Iggy happens to be at the forefront of it.
Its not fair because Iggy can't really respond in any kind of way that will seem justified or in the right. She's kind of at a check mate when it comes to this certain conversation. And to put the whole burden and blame straight on her shoulder's isn't right either. But AB doesn't care, and she shouldn't since its clearly something that does run deep within her.
Either way, AB went out and said how she felt and Iggy is trying to go off of that in the best way she sees fit. Its not like she's going off saying ********, so its not weak or lame or anything. She's just doing the best with what she has. Either way, no matter what she does or says, it'll never be enough for AB or her hardcore supporters/Iggy haters. She loses regardless in their eyes.
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Couldn't have said it any better.
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Member Since: 11/22/2009
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Originally posted by jayyyxtee
Cause she's white using "black culture" for fame
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So? And Azealia's not?
Just because you're black doesn't mean others can't be entitled to act black as well just because you don't want them to.
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Member Since: 3/13/2011
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Originally posted by Katy.Kat.23
I'm waiting for the day that people realize there is no such thing as "real, authentic music". It's all subjective to the listener
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Like with the Macklemore win, there is only ONE real opinion, no one else's opinion matters.
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Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Originally posted by Eros
Listen, Iggy is only the catalyst in this whole conversation because she blew up and because she had support in the background to blow up via TIP. If AB was really bothered about this she wouldn't be supporting and being friendly with people like Kreayshawn & Debbie and whoever else. Yet she is because Kreay and them flopped.
I'm a huge fan and supporter of BOTH Iggy and Azealia (I know that's a bit of a contradiction to most of y'all here since you guys go hard for either or, not both) and I can sit here and say both of them are part of the problem. Azealia is talking about a much larger picture but is using Iggy as the subject to get the message across easier and make it seem justified. The thing is, had Iggy not blown up, no one would care about what she's saying. Azealia still wouldn't like Iggy tho, she NEVER did. Even before Iggy blew up.
My point here is, Azealia has never liked Iggy. She's really mad and bitter about the fact that there's a system designed for women like Iggy to capitalize off of other cultures and have no repercussions by it at large. And I agree with her on that. But you can't sit her and blame Iggy for it because the issue is MUCH larger than Iggy herself. The solution AB wants is for people to look at Iggy as some lame phony artist and to no longer be supported, she wants to tear her image down. That's why she's constantly bringing HER up specifically. She's not bringing up all these other white chicks who tried or are trying to do the exact same thing (Kreay, Debbie, that stripper one who's name I can't remember rn) because she has no personal beef with them. But you can't really be talking about this larger picture and excluding all of these names, especially when she's CLEARLY aware of them, just because Iggy happens to be at the forefront of it.
Its not fair because Iggy can't really respond in any kind of way that will seem justified or in the right. She's kind of at a check mate when it comes to this certain conversation. And to put the whole burden and blame straight on her shoulder's isn't right either. But AB doesn't care, and she shouldn't since its clearly something that does run deep within her.
Either way, AB went out and said how she felt and Iggy is trying to go off of that in the best way she sees fit. Its not like she's going off saying ********, so its not weak or lame or anything. She's just doing the best with what she has. Either way, no matter what she does or says, it'll never be enough for AB or her hardcore supporters/Iggy haters. She loses regardless in their eyes.
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Very well put!
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Originally posted by Katy.Kat.23
I'm waiting for the day that people realize there is no such thing as "real, authentic music". It's all subjective to the listener
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Don't even try.
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Member Since: 8/26/2012
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Originally posted by xtina10
I can't at all the n iggers up in this thread trashing Iggy just because she is white.
Hoodrats supporting hoodrats, what else is new.
Funny how well the hating-ass n igger is supported on ATRL but is no where found on the charts!
btw - I'm not racist - I stan for Beyonce sometimes as well.
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Originally posted by Ozzy8923
I'm glad she responded. Azealia's interview was very true and I agree with most of what she said but targeting one person specifically wasn't the way to go. She could perhaps have mentioned more of how the media and their perception of Iggy was more problematic and how that reflects many of society's deep rooted issues regarding race... but to then trash her work and artistic value is pathetic and far from the topic at hand and when someone does that it can make anyone mad, so I wouldn't be opposed to Iggy at least speaking up about it. AFTER ALL, Azalea herself already called out Iggy before for sitting on the sidelines and saying nothing, and now she's saying SOMETHING, which is probably what Azalea hoped for anyways.
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Iggy's trash music is relevant to the topic at hand, though sorry.
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Originally posted by Skydive.
She is so soft. All she ever does is try to preach to her followers
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Did you want her to act like a wild loud banshee, being just as petty as Azealia and trash her?
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Iggy's trash music is relevant to the topic at hand, though sorry.
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The new Foxy n Kim
Bookmark me
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Originally posted by jayyyxtee
Did you want her to act like a wild loud banshee, being just as petty as Azealia and trash her?
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How about instead bringing up old "behind the scenes stories", address the topic at hand and make a case for yourself?
Edit: And that story was also petty as well.
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Eros spilled the tea
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Originally posted by TrillUSA
The new Foxy n Kim
Bookmark me
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Not when there hasn't been a single diss song, just Twitter beef.
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Originally posted by Ice Rapunxel
Don't even try.
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wow, DRAG, I guess! You really put me in my PLACE.
But seriously though, the whole "I listen to REAL music, and you don't" is so overdone and boring at this point.
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
How about instead bringing up old "behind the scenes stories", address the topic at hand and make a case for yourself?
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What exactly is she going to say that wouldn't have you guys complain and call her fake or whatever. Eros summed it up there really is nothing she can say
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by Skydive.
She is so soft. All she ever does is try to preach to her followers
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Well excuse Iggy for being one to behave accordingly to her A-list status. She HAS to keep it classy. Iggy is here to change every stereotype about female rappers. She doesn't want beefs or any of that ish. She wants people to view female rappers as strong, independent, immensely talented females that should go head to head with the greats like Eminem and Kanye, and she is just THAT. She is a huge inspiration to any white girl or black girl or asian girl or hispanic girl sitting in her bedroom right now, listening to old Tupac mixtapes dreaming of the day she'll be a female MC. She is a poet and she speaks the words of a generation. She is a true hip hop artist who doesn't need to dumb down her music for the masses and make it dance pop. If you seriously cannot see how important Iggy is to the current industry, then I can do nothing but hope that one day you'll see the light (which will probably be 5 years from now when Iggy would have set the bar as high for the female MCs as the likes of Eminem and Notorious BIG did for male rappers.
God bless
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What is "black culture" anyway? This only perpetuates segregation.
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I don't agree with the people in here acting ignorant defending Iggy tho. That's disgusting.
AB is perfectly justified in bringing up what she wants regarding that, but the only thing I have issue with is piling everything on Iggy as if Iggy is the end all be all to this issue.
Iggy ain't got the answers!
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Originally posted by BlueTimberwolf
Iggy's trash music is relevant to the topic at hand, though sorry.
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It's not though. The issue is much greater than that. Eros said it best though
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