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Discussion: Why you all call Katy basic?
Member Since: 8/18/2013
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Because she is, it's as simple as that. Nothing she does is risky, out of character or impactful, it's just ..there
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
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it's so immature how every time someone insults katy her fans try to attack other people's favorite artists, like focus on defending yours instead of attacking
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Originally posted by Lazerbeamz
LOL.
I still can't get over people calling Unconditionally and Birthday (Top 20 singles) flops, Katy's standards are obviously so high >>>>> !!
Wow, wow!
So having 4 more #1s by being 5 more years in the game and having put out THREE times Katy's work (albums-wise) is to tally irrelevant when comparing the two?
I'm done.
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Who called Unconditionally and Birthday flops? They weren't. They underperformed.
Didn't say that. Yes, Katy got more #1's in a lesser time span but that was because of her basic songs that the GP connected with + her many, many remixes. Yes, Rihanna has remixed one song (S&M) to get it to #1 but Katy literally tried that with the whole TD era. Rihanna's music is way more different and controversial so it's pretty hit and miss something but yet she's still get more #1's than artists like Gaga, Beyonce and Madonna.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Ainsworth
Kelly has taken even less musical risks than Katy and literally has abused the same formula for hit songs her entire career. Why are they pretending it bothers them in Katy's case...?
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lol yes, My December was so safe and basic!!! Whyyawannabringmedown sounds just like all the other Pop girls! Don't Rush is so generic too!
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by NEZ LUNAR
it's just some artist would rather be RESPECTED and AWARDED for their work! there's a reason Katy doesn't have a grammy and won't win any for PRISM!
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Wow, you better expose Diana Ross, Bjork and Queen!
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Originally posted by NEZ LUNAR
anyone can make generic pop music!
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A lie, look at Rihanna.
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Member Since: 11/5/2011
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Originally posted by bluth
all her songs have the same structure.
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I spot a lie
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Member Since: 9/17/2012
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Originally posted by Sam Jay
I was thinking this the other day, only slightly different.
Tbh some of the music that Katy makes and releases as singles, specifically, is basic / generic. What I don't understand is why everyone always associates genericness with being bad. I personally don't let labels affect my taste; if I like a song I like it, I won't consciously choose to dislike it just because it's "generic". You can get generic music that's great (like some of Katy's music) and you can get non-generic music that sucks. It goes both ways, it's a continuum. Being generic doesn't always mean bad, imo.
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OK, I can agree with this.
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Member Since: 3/6/2014
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Originally posted by Lazerbeamz
So how is that good/bad? It works for Rihanna, awesome!
Just one more reason that the two can't and shouldn't be compared (but it's ATRL, you know!).
Also Katy has plenty or dark and controversial imagery and songs that aren't released from her albums, but when it comes to dragging her everyone choses to ignore them and use the singles only.
Did everyone suddenly forget about Katy's countless sexual appearances, exposing her body (good for her), songs like IKAG, Ur So Gay, Peacock, E.T., Love Me, Legendary Lovers, or even performances like the recent one from the Grammys?
Katy being liked by a huge variety of people =/= her being basic.
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True! That Grammys performance got a pretty big amount of backlash for being "blasphemous". That performance was a lot riskier than if she had just been sitting on a horse singing.
Not to mention Circle the Drain which could have caused some controversy if it had been released.
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Member Since: 3/4/2012
Posts: 16,176
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
lol yes, My December was so safe and basic!!! Whyyawannabringmedown sounds just like all the other Pop girls! Don't Rush is so generic too!
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I completely agree with all of the points you made in this post.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 3,392
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Originally posted by NEZ LUNAR
anyone can make generic pop music! it's just some artist would rather be RESPECTED and AWARDED for their work! there's a reason Katy doesn't have a grammy and won't win any for PRISM!
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Lol who needs an award given by a few critics when you have worldwide appreciation and making MAD money?
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by Ainsworth
Yet she's still formulaic, basic, uninspired and boring. I can already tell you her next lead single will sound, as usual, like a rehashed version of her biggest hit.
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Yet Mr Know It All didn't sound anything like what she had done before. Stronger had the same anthemic feel, but she hadn't released anything that dance-y.
And no, she's not basic, for all of the reasons I just stated.
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Member Since: 11/14/2011
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She isn't but people think trying hard like Gaga or pretending to be 'artistic' is better than doing something good, simple and entertaining without pretending to be Mozart. This is pop music, if people in ATRL really wanted to talk about talented musicians or songwriters then Katy, Gaga, Britney, Rihanna would be out of discussion.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Originally posted by accelgors
using big words doesn't make you right i don't even disagree that strongly with you but chill wow
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you do realize
unconditionally --> dark horse
katy had a huge single after declining too
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True. But lets see how This Is How We Do does first. If this flops/unperformes straight after Birthday, I think it'll be safe to say that Katy's career is finally declining.
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Member Since: 1/1/2014
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Originally posted by KatyLegendperry
You mean a pop rock album released during a time when pop rock was at its peak? Interesting...
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lol, she fought her label HARD to release it because it wasn't very commercial or mainstream. She didn't work with any hit pop songwriters. It was far from safe, and that was a big risk. Try again
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Member Since: 3/4/2012
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Originally posted by MissedTheTrain
Yet Mr Know It All didn't sound anything like what she had done before. Stronger had the same anthemic feel, but she hadn't released anything that dance-y.
And no, she's not basic, for all of the reasons I just stated.
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If Kelly isn't basic, Katy is the pop equivalent to Radiohead.
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Member Since: 3/1/2014
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Things that people who stan for artists that cant get a Grammy say
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Originally posted by Lazerbeamz
Lol who needs an award given by a few critics when you have worldwide appreciation and making MAD money?
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Member Since: 9/14/2010
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Originally posted by RoarRiteNow1
People still RAN in here to call her basic. Why would the girls do that if they were not pressed
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I came in here to agree with the title's statement.. and I'm listening to her discography. Don't make false accusations.
Teenage Dream (Kaskade Club Mix)
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Member Since: 10/1/2011
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Katy isn't basic. She just chooses to present her most basic side the most.
A woman who can create her own concepts and write her own melodies and lyrics (unlike some of the other faves of ATRL) is not basic. The woman who can write songs like Spiritual, Choose Your Battles, Thinking of You, Lost, and Circle The Drain is not basic. A woman who can effortlessly capture the hearts of millions is not basic.
Sure, her singles are safe and not groundbreaking, but that's because she chooses to portray herself that way. She has the smarts and the wit to survive in this industry and it's because she IS NOT basic.
Trust me 100 percent in saying this. If she wanted to truly push the artistic borders of pop music, she could. She has the talent and the intelligence. But she's not interested in that right now.
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Member Since: 2/2/2014
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Originally posted by The Best One Yet
She isn't but people think trying hard like Gaga or pretending to be 'artistic' is better than doing something good, simple and entertaining without pretending to be Mozart. This is pop music, if people in ATRL really wanted to talk about talented musicians or songwriters then Katy, Gaga, Britney, Rihanna would be out of discussion.
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the truth
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Member Since: 6/3/2012
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Originally posted by h.u.r.r.i.c.a.n.e
Katy isn't basic. She just chooses to present her most basic side the most.
A woman who can create her own concepts and write her own melodies and lyrics (unlike some of the other faves of ATRL) is not basic. The woman who can write songs like Spiritual, Choose Your Battles, Thinking of You, Lost, and Circle The Drain is not basic. A woman who can effortlessly capture the hearts of millions is not basic.
Sure, her singles are safe and not groundbreaking, but that's because she chooses to portray herself that way. She has the smarts and the wit to survive in this industry and it's because she IS NOT basic.
Trust me 100 percent in saying this. If she wanted to truly push the artistic borders of pop music, she could. She has the talent and the intelligence. But she's not interested in that right now.
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Katy couldn't push boundaries and maintain any semblance of relevancy.
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