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TV Show: Scream Queens | #RenewalNewsSOON | #Pray4Chanel | #Over
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nn But Ryan hasn't been doing ANYTHING trying to make it obvious. |
What do call Grace telling Munsch "You won't help till the RD tries to off you" and her getting attacked in the next scene? Wes accusing his own daughter and piling on a bunch of evidence? Grace randomly going psychotic? Skylar Instagramming that Grace might just be the killer? It's not to the point she's impossible, but they're definitely pushing some suspicion which makes me skeptical.
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Everyone just jumped on the bandwagon recently and decided it was Grace. It's the same every week. We think it's someone different. It's not that the show's doing it to be a red herring; it's just that we over-analyze to the point where EVERYTHING becomes obvious. Outside of ATRL, SOME Reddit threads and maybe 2 IMDb threads, NO one things it's Grace. The GP would be shocked.
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And you base this off of.... ? 
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And aside from that, this is a whodunnit. Not some twisted horror movie. It's not supposed to be some massive shock that shows up with some grandeur as if "LOOK, GUYS. SURPRISE. IT'S THIS PERSON."
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Err... yes it is. Thus why, oh, red herrings exist. Scream, this show's BIGGEST influence,. has tried a "ZOMG GUYS LOOK SURPRISE! YOU NEVER SAW THIS COMING!" in all four movies AND the show.
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Every week, we get more clues as to who it is and who it isn't. And while we tend to interpret them differently, it's all going to make sense. And the only way it's GOING to make sense is if it's Grace.[/CENTER][/SIZE][/FONT]
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Oberlin, #3, and #5 all make more sense than Grace (RE: #2's death)
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D ok Repo sis!
Let's not have a repeat of what happened a week or two ago!
(Cathy is not the most popular character on the show
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KTT is the purgatory and all of the characters are dead and trying to pay for the sins they made in their past lifes, the Red Devil is just a physical manifestation of redemption.
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Ed Ed n Eddy teas
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Plot twist, the whole season has been Grace ha dad imagining what would happen if she joined a sorority
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I'm requesting a threadban.
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On the other hand, Chanel is one of the few people with.. BIG SHOCKER, absolutely. No. Red. Herrings. All. Season. Same rule for the killer in Harper's Island and Scream MTV. Same rule here. Ryan is doing everything to deflect, including deleting a text in Episode 1. And the only reason you try to deflect attention? When it's the killer.
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She killed Miss Bean. The ghost of Ariana called her the killer. She pushed Hester down the staircase. She's a massive bitch that's been called the possible killer directly or in reference multiple times. The only person whose been set up more is Pete.
If you think that's not a red herring I don't know what I can tell ya.
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Didn't you just say that when it's obvious, it means it's not them?  |
I don't understand what's so hard to get about this-
Here is how my "Too Obvious!" rule works-
Too Obvious (As in, not the killer. Red herring):
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When a show goes out of its way to single out someone. Highlight, underline, exclamation point, the whole deal. For example,
Trevor
from Scream 4 or
Kieran
from Scream MTV. Those two aren't given a single scene where they aren't a redherring. Trying to be a supportive boyfriend/ex-boyfriend? MUST have an ulterior, evil motive. Sitting around angry about something? There we have it, a true psychopath! Is he just breathing? Make sure there's some sort of creepy score playing over it to highlight how suspicious he is. Even better, disconnect him from the main group so he's a mysterious loner.
The other rule is, if you're nearing the big reveal, anyone who has a s***load of evidence thrown their way is instantly out, and I'll tell you why: if the person was the killer and that was the shock reveal, the writer/director/showrunner would reveal it then and there for the gasps. They would NOT, under any circumstances, make the killer the major redherring before the reveal. Reason being that if most the audience thinks Pete is the killer on Scream Queens after the end of last episode on SQ, not a single soul would be shocked when it's him. If the show revealed new evidence against Character Z to make him or her suspicious right before the reveal, it's a redherring. Bar none. Scream MTV did this. Harper's Island did this. Terror Train did this. It's always the case for pacing and shock purposes.
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Chanel O is the opposite. She's obvious because NONE of this applies to her. She is the character who all the signs point to but is never treated like a suspect. She is the character the show constantly brushes attention and suspicion off of, even when she should be suspicious. Shes' a character who makes more sense as the killer, but is somehow not even a minor red herring. Basically, she's obvious because the show is telling us DON'T suspect her, whereas the show is definitely saying, with Pete or Hester, DO suspect them
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She killed Miss Bean.
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In every single scene since she argues she's not the killer and she's been framed since someone else turned the fryer on.
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The ghost of Ariana called her the killer.
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Ari's ghost later says she was pissed off and just f***ing with the Chanels and decided to screw with her and that she didn't think O is the killer. Though, for the millionth time, Ari did send a deleted text saying RD is #2
[spoiler] She pushed Hester down the staircase.[/quote]In the words of #3 in the same episode: That makes her a killer not the killer.
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She's a massive bitch that's been called the possible killer directly or in reference multiple times.
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All of which are momentary, never backed with actual evidence EVER, and sometimes even played as comic relief
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The only person whose been set up more is Pete.
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And Hester. And Cathy initially. And kinda Grace recently. And arguably #5.....
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If you think that's not a red herring I don't know what I can tell ya.
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It's not.
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I'm not from the US. Is there a way for me to live the finale with you losers?
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I'm requesting a threadban.
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You rn
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Repo boo, pls step out the thread with your essays
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Plot twist, the whole season has been Grace ha dad imagining what would happen if she joined a sorority
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Bigger plot twist: The entire show was just a long, long, dream from Chanel. Melanie told her in the premiere if she wanted to be president she had to dance with the devil so it was all Chanel imagining what it would be like when she replaced her. That's why the first 2015 scene of the episode is Chanel waking up from Bed, it's a hint she's dreaming. That's why #2 could come back "as a ghost". It's not REAL
There is no red devil, everyone lives happily ever after.
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Repo boo, pls step out the thread with your essays
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You don't have to read them. They are 100% on topic with zero meltdowns.
Though I probably can. I'm locked in on Chanel, so I can't wait for everyone to see I'm right in the finale 
That said, if Pete wasn't the RD at the mall and is confirmed not to be, I guess I'll go back to Grace because she's the only one who makes sense
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Bigger plot twist: The entire show was just a long, long, dream from Chanel. Melanie told her in the premiere if she wanted to be president she had to dance with the devil so it was all Chanel imagining what it would be like when she replaced her. That's why the first 2015 scene of the episode is Chanel waking up from Bed, it's a hint she's dreaming. That's why #2 could come back "as a ghost". It's not REAL
There is no red devil, everyone lives happily ever after.
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We finally cracked the code 
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I can't wait for Grace to be revealed tomorrow night!
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Lea and Emma accidentally revealing that Chanel and Hester survive.
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"Oh trust me," Lea says with a laugh, "I know where [Ryan] lives. I've talked to him about what her role might be, and I would love for it to happen."
And Emma, who spoke to E! News' Marc Malkin while promoting "Hot Chocolate for a Cause," a Godiva fundraiser for Toys for Tots, also said she'd be up for more.
"I genuinely don't know [if the show will be picked up]," Roberts admits, "but I hope so and I hope there'll be a lot more Chanel and Chad….[Glenn] was just texting me during this interview! I've known him for like 5 years. We just have so much fun together, doing Chad and Chanel because they're so far from who we are so we just get to be so outrageous with each other. He makes me laugh more than anybody else."
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Repo can chill now
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You don't have to read them. They are 100% on topic with zero meltdowns.
Though I probably can. I'm locked in on Chanel, so I can't wait for everyone to see I'm right in the finale
That said, if Pete wasn't the RD at the mall and is confirmed not to be, I guess I'll go back to Grace because she's the only one who makes sense |
Oh I know, I wasn't reading them
It's just that whenever you enter, everyone starts fighting you for pages
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I don't think the Red Devil is after the original KKT girls. Chanel has never been attacked besides in her imagination and well until last week. #5's life has literally been spared like four times, the red divil could have killed her on many occasions. #3 never been attacked.
Its either one of them. Which I doubt.
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The second ending shows that Grace Gardner was suffering from a mental disability called autism and all the characters including Chanel are simply his delusion. In real life, Grace was sick and dying little girl who imagined the entire series on his sickbed to help him ease his pain and depression. On the side of her bed always were a bunch of little Legos her mom called after her favorite perfume, Chanel #5.
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