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Poll: Bigger: P!nk vs. Beyoncé
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View Poll Results: Bigger?
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Beyoncé
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P!nk
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Originally posted by Sammi
Can't_M!ss_This,
Beyonce doesn't need to buy media presence. It's not her fault that people are fascinated by her and talk about her all day like this site does.
And let's not act like P!nk never wanted or tried to be a celebrity. There was her outrageous fashion and statments. There was her mocking other celebs. There was her publicizing her relationship/separation.
Just because she got overlooked and didn't receive huge attention doesn't mean that she didn't try.
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Maybe she doesn't. Maybe she does.
My point is that with all the people I meet and what I see from other people, the media praise and the praise from actual people don't add up. Media portrays Beyonce like some kind of goddess while the GP finds her act....not goddess like.
Oh and for you people touting Beyonce's end of decade acclaim, P!nk was named the #1 Pop Artist Of The Decade. But that doesn't really matter. What matters is that when you pit P!nk and Beyonce, P!nk will win.
Look at when they're together. 2010 Grammy awards, P!nk STOLE that show. Beyonce? I think she covered Alanis Morissette. 2014? Beyonce opened the show and the ratings were the lowest of the evening. P!nk performed and guess what? She had the highest viewing along with Sir Paul McCartney.
You know what? Let's let Beyonce have her media. It's obvious P!nk has the far more valuable public at large all to herself.
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Beyonce is more known, but P!nk is raking in them sales with half the controversy and publicity.
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I love them both, but Pink is definitely bigger.
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Originally posted by accelgors
you...do realize that when people say global...they mean the big markets...how do you not understand that...
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it's close. i'll go with p!nk
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It's not my fault people misuse the word
Global = Asia, Africa, Latin America, North America, Oceania, Europe.
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Originally posted by Can't_M!ss_This
I'm sure they do. When Stupid Girls was released the internet controversy was insane. 8 million people downloaded the song/video in 2006. 2006. The video crashed MTV's servers on their video hosting site at the time. Oprah Winfrey, one of the most powerful women in the world invited P!nk to be on her show. Oprah Winfrey dedicated an entire hour of her syndicated talk show to talk about the "stupid girl epidemic".
More about the impact of Stupid Girls. I don't know if you remember but after the video came out, the whole "acting dumb" thing died. Paris Hilton fell off the map after that, having only 1 hit single.
I haven't heard anybody talking about Singles Ladies since 2009. That's roughly when it was released. I hear about it on the internet but I don't go to Starbucks and hear a gaggle of girls talking about anything Beyonce. Impact isn't just gossip or media coverage. Impact is changing the landscape.
Pink has been described as an artist who has changed the scope of pop music. She has been credited for breaking boundaries and pushing the envelope throughout her career. She is often regarded as the "most trailblazing artist" of her generation.[112][127][128] Robert Hilburn of the Los Angeles Times says, "Pink stood up for her music, broke the music industry's mold and scored a breakout hit, challenging a school of teen singers to find their own sounds as well." He adds, "[Pink] also started a race among other teen pop stars like Christina Aguilera to add substance to their own sound."[129] Referring to her as a "powerhouse vocalist", Ann Powers of the Los Angeles Times asked, "Why isn't she an even bigger star?"[112] Rob Sheffield of Rolling Stone commented: "I think people respond to her sense of independence and dedication. It inspires people ... This is a prolific pop artist who is sometimes famous and successful, sometimes obscure, who nonetheless keeps making her own kind of music. Every few years, the spotlight comes back around to her—but her fans can trust that when the spotlight moves along, Pink will keep on writing Pink songs."[112] Powers adds that her mix of rock-style rebellion, emotional rawness, humor, and "infectious" dance beats created "a model for the mashup approach of latter-day divas such as Avril Lavigne, Katy Perry, Kesha, and even Rihanna."[112]
James Montgomery of MTV describes her as "a fabulously fearless pop artist" who can "out-sing almost anyone out there. She can out-crazy Gaga or Lily. She's the total pop-star package, everything you'd want in a singer/entertainer/icon. And still, she remains oddly off the radar. Such is the price of busting borders, I suppose."[128] Entertainment Weekly said: "She essentially invented the whole modern wave of Pop Diva Domination: You can draw a straight line from “Get This Party Started” to Katy Perry, Kesha, pre-messianic Lady Gaga, and post-weird Rihanna."[130] Glamour Magazine wrote: "When Pennsylvania-born Alecia Moore debuted in 2000, pop was dominated by long-locked blonds like Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera and Jessica Simpson. Pink changed the game. Without her, the last 13-years of big-voiced, tough chick music is hard to imagine."[131] Jon O'Brien of AllMusic stated that Pink's music provided "the benchmark for the careers of Kelly Clarkson and Katy Perry, to name just two."[132] "Although never quite achieving the cultural impact (and infamy) of contemporaries such as Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera, she’s proved surprisingly durable and influential (would there be any Katy Perry or Ke$ha without Pink?)", wrote John Murphy of musicOMH in his review of The Truth About Love.[133]
In a 2012 cover story on Pink, The Advocate wrote: "The singer has changed the sound of modern pop music irrevocably [...] paving the path for many of today’s most popular modern female artists, including Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, and Rihanna."[134] Bill Brotherton of the Boston Herald seconded this notion while reviewing The Truth About Love Tour, saying: "It’s hard to imagine that Katy Perry, Rihanna and even Gaga would have achieved superstar status without 33-year-old Alecia Moore leading the way."[135]
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LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO the delusion
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based off those numbers p!nk
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Originally posted by patapon
LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO the delusion
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Pull up the chair I'm sitting in, have a seat and go for a ride.
No delusion here sis
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Bey is a much bigger celebrity and has much bigger impact and influence so her >>>>>>
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Originally posted by Can't_M!ss_This
I'm sure they do. When Stupid Girls was released the internet controversy was insane. 8 million people downloaded the song/video in 2006. 2006. The video crashed MTV's servers on their video hosting site at the time. Oprah Winfrey, one of the most powerful women in the world invited P!nk to be on her show. Oprah Winfrey dedicated an entire hour of her syndicated talk show to talk about the "stupid girl epidemic".
More about the impact of Stupid Girls. I don't know if you remember but after the video came out, the whole "acting dumb" thing died. Paris Hilton fell off the map after that, having only 1 hit single.
I haven't heard anybody talking about Singles Ladies since 2009. That's roughly when it was released. I hear about it on the internet but I don't go to Starbucks and hear a gaggle of girls talking about anything Beyonce. Impact isn't just gossip or media coverage. Impact is changing the landscape.
Pink has been described as an artist who has changed the scope of pop music. She has been credited for breaking boundaries and pushing the envelope throughout her career. She is often regarded as the "most trailblazing artist" of her generation.[112][127][128] Robert Hilburn of the Los Angeles Times says, "Pink stood up for her music, broke the music industry's mold and scored a breakout hit, challenging a school of teen singers to find their own sounds as well." He adds, "[Pink] also started a race among other teen pop stars like Christina Aguilera to add substance to their own sound."[129] Referring to her as a "powerhouse vocalist", Ann Powers of the Los Angeles Times asked, "Why isn't she an even bigger star?"[112] Rob Sheffield of Rolling Stone commented: "I think people respond to her sense of independence and dedication. It inspires people ... This is a prolific pop artist who is sometimes famous and successful, sometimes obscure, who nonetheless keeps making her own kind of music. Every few years, the spotlight comes back around to her—but her fans can trust that when the spotlight moves along, Pink will keep on writing Pink songs."[112] Powers adds that her mix of rock-style rebellion, emotional rawness, humor, and "infectious" dance beats created "a model for the mashup approach of latter-day divas such as Avril Lavigne, Katy Perry, Kesha, and even Rihanna."[112]
James Montgomery of MTV describes her as "a fabulously fearless pop artist" who can "out-sing almost anyone out there. She can out-crazy Gaga or Lily. She's the total pop-star package, everything you'd want in a singer/entertainer/icon. And still, she remains oddly off the radar. Such is the price of busting borders, I suppose."[128] Entertainment Weekly said: "She essentially invented the whole modern wave of Pop Diva Domination: You can draw a straight line from “Get This Party Started” to Katy Perry, Kesha, pre-messianic Lady Gaga, and post-weird Rihanna."[130] Glamour Magazine wrote: "When Pennsylvania-born Alecia Moore debuted in 2000, pop was dominated by long-locked blonds like Britney Spears, Christina Aguilera and Jessica Simpson. Pink changed the game. Without her, the last 13-years of big-voiced, tough chick music is hard to imagine."[131] Jon O'Brien of AllMusic stated that Pink's music provided "the benchmark for the careers of Kelly Clarkson and Katy Perry, to name just two."[132] "Although never quite achieving the cultural impact (and infamy) of contemporaries such as Britney Spears and Christina Aguilera, she’s proved surprisingly durable and influential (would there be any Katy Perry or Ke$ha without Pink?)", wrote John Murphy of musicOMH in his review of The Truth About Love.[133]
In a 2012 cover story on Pink, The Advocate wrote: "The singer has changed the sound of modern pop music irrevocably [...] paving the path for many of today’s most popular modern female artists, including Lady Gaga, Katy Perry, and Rihanna."[134] Bill Brotherton of the Boston Herald seconded this notion while reviewing The Truth About Love Tour, saying: "It’s hard to imagine that Katy Perry, Rihanna and even Gaga would have achieved superstar status without 33-year-old Alecia Moore leading the way."[135]
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Quote:
Originally posted by Can't_M!ss_This
Maybe she doesn't. Maybe she does.
My point is that with all the people I meet and what I see from other people, the media praise and the praise from actual people don't add up. Media portrays Beyonce like some kind of goddess while the GP finds her act....not goddess like.
Oh and for you people touting Beyonce's end of decade acclaim, P!nk was named the #1 Pop Artist Of The Decade. But that doesn't really matter. What matters is that when you pit P!nk and Beyonce, P!nk will win.
Look at when they're together. 2010 Grammy awards, P!nk STOLE that show. Beyonce? I think she covered Alanis Morissette. 2014? Beyonce opened the show and the ratings were the lowest of the evening. P!nk performed and guess what? She had the highest viewing along with Sir Paul McCartney.
You know what? Let's let Beyonce have her media. It's obvious P!nk has the far more valuable public at large all to herself.
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