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Discussion: Dark Horse has no blasphemy!
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Originally posted by boodytay
You can't mangle Allah's name in a video that has absolutely nothing to do with Islam or Islamic culture and burn it in a setting where it didn't exist. (There was no Islam at Cleopatra's time). This is offensive to Muslims. I don't like a joke at the expense of my God's name and I wouldn't do it for people of other religions.
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umm no offense good sis but you call Taylor the lord all the time do you not? 
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Originally posted by boodytay
You can't mangle Allah's name in a video that has absolutely nothing to do with Islam or Islamic culture and burn it in a setting where it didn't exist. (There was no Islam at Cleopatra's time). This is offensive to Muslims. I don't like a joke at the expense of my God's name and I wouldn't do it for people of other religions.
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there also wasnt Twinkies or Flaming Hot Cheetos or Talking heads or pole dancers to trap music
It was not put there for controversial purposes...like it was deff overlooked and I doubt it ever even crossed their minds considering its barely recognizable
Im sure most didnt even pick up on it until someone started to reach and say it was burned
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Originally posted by J. YONCÉ
We know that Cleopatra is of Greek lineage.
We know she might have had a Sub-Saharan African mother.
She could have been white, black, or mixed. There isn't a consensus on what color she was. Stop trying to make yourself seem smarter by stating your theories as facts. |
So wouldn't it be incorrect to say she was white?
I'm just checking since I never once stated what she was, only what she wasn't.
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Originally posted by Genocide
It's still up in there whether she was "white" or not, but regardless, opinions are opinions. However just because you "studied" or "researched" it doesn't make your opinion a solidified fact and superior to someone else's
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Actually, a "studied" and "researched" opinion is definitely superior to an unsupported opinion...
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Member Since: 9/17/2012
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Originally posted by satellites.™
I don't care if you are blue or green, she still was not white.
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Their is no proof that she was black. Cleopatra is widely-thought to be white, with some claiming that she was biracial.
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Originally posted by Dollas n Diamonds
umm no offense good sis but you call Taylor the lord all the time do you not? |
No, I don't call her The Lord, but other stans of hers on ATRL call her that. I don't.
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Originally posted by J. YONCÉ
Actually, a "studied" and "researched" opinion is definitely superior to an unsupported opinion...
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To most people, yes. But it should be a well-established fact already that everything in your text book isn't 100% true.
It's just up to what you believe, but just because it's from a textbook or classified as a fact doesn't automatically make it true. There's been too many holes in the history records to prove that
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by boodytay
Their is no proof that she was black. Cleopatra is widely-thought to be white, with some claiming that she was biracial.
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Backtracking is so cute. 
Never once said she was black, you and the others assumed that because you were hellbent on her being white.
And no offense but widely thought opinions are still just opinions, surely I don't have to give examples.
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Originally posted by satellites.™
Did you or anyone in this thread or alive today?
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no but again we're saying shes PROBABLY white or mixed bc she was from greece... you are saying its a fact
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Originally posted by satellites.™
So wouldn't it be incorrect to say she was white?
I'm just checking since I never once stated what she was, only what she wasn't.
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It could be incorrect, but it's generally accepted that she was white or perceived as white/fair-skinned.
You still haven't provided any evidence that she definitely was not white.
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Member Since: 8/22/2009
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Originally posted by mahicki
no but again we're saying shes PROBABLY white or mixed bc she was from greece... you are saying its a fact
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Oh no, you all said WHITE.
Not a single person said mixed which was my point to begin with, you just look salty as **** now.
Sit down.
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Originally posted by highwind44029
The amount of warning points handed out like candy just in the first page 
There was never any intentional blasphemy with the Dark Horse. Get that effortless blasphemous scandal though, Katheryn Patra. 
But dd @ the monsters even trying it with Katy after Alejandro.  |
I can't even with them
curious, does mine say warning received under it?
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Originally posted by boodytay
No, I don't call her The Lord, but other stans of hers on ATRL call her that. I don't.
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oh fair enough then 
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Originally posted by satellites.™
Backtracking is so cute.
Never once said she was black, you and the others assumed that because you were hellbent on her being white.
And no offense but widely thought opinions are still just opinions, surely I don't have to give examples. |
So, why haven't you been able to provide a source for the "She wasn't white" claim you keep presenting as a fact? "Somebody told me" isn't a source.
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Member Since: 8/16/2011
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Originally posted by J. YONCÉ
Jesus Christ sis, you know I love you, but stop posting because you are not even kind of close to being correct |
Where are the lies? I'm thinking they were "white" in skin tone in the same way Bey is. But that's not really white in the way we know it today.
Would you find many people who consider Arabs as white?
Just like Jesus was seen as "white" before the Jews were, is the same way the Ancient Greeks were seen as "white" before Greek Americans were. A lot of racial construct revolves around culture too. 
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Originally posted by J. YONCÉ
You must have missed my last post, could you provide a source that conclusively demonstrates that Cleopatra was not white? You say it so definitively that I assume you must have some academic source that demonstrates with 100% certainty that she was not.
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she is more likely to be an outsider from Egypt, Syria, Greece, Rome, Nubia or somewhere else entirely. her maternal grandmother and grandfather are equally unknown...all we can conclude from this survey ... is that, in the crudest terms, Cleopatra was somewhere between 25 percent and 100 percent of Macedonian extraction .... this suggests that Cleopatra is most likely to have dark hair and an olive or light brown complexion."
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Cleopatra, Last Queen of Egypt by Joyce Tyldesley, (c) 2008
Cleo's race isn't certain, so you can't run around saying with absolute certainty she was white. There's pretty sizeable evidence to the contrary when you look into her immediate family tree.
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I don't think Cleopatra was black, but sis wasn't wonderbread white either. 
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Ugh, I didn't even notice she burned a necklace with the word ''Allah'' on it.
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It was unnecessary. Doesn't affect me because I'm not Muslim, but she still shouldn't have done that (unless she wanted controversy).
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Originally posted by satellites.™
Oh no, you all said WHITE.
Not a single person said mixed which was my point to begin with, you just look salty as **** now.
Sit down.
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um loads of people are saying she had a subsaharan mom or granny so she could be mixed.. and im arab so i cba tbh but i think shes probably closer to white people than black people.. but again i THINK. so i could be wrong
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And third – especially relevant in demolishing any suggestion that Cleopatra had black African blood – the representations of her in Greek and Roman art and coins do not show anything other than traditional Mediterranean ethnicity, although artists were perfectly capable of showing other ethnic groups.
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hmmmmmm
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