[jeremyyy]

Wait, those Y&I things weren't remixes, she just replaced the state's name and I don't think they were ever put onto iTunes.

[coolcristobal]

Originally posted by castrobabytiger

she did it for radio performance...and sadly, it didn't work

I mean it's not like changing the state name in there would've changed anything

The radio isn't going to play You & I even if it mentions their state.

[2AM]

Originally posted by dnav87

Yeah and Gaga's so called flop era still managed to sell over 5 million worldwide and score 4 top ten hits without any lame remixes or discounts.

Gaga's flop era also solidified her as a top touring act.

Gaga's lame BTW era also received more attention and media coverage than Katy's divorce.
Gaga's popularity and spot in pop music is only rivaled by legends not her contemporaries. Deal

Katy got 5 #1's with no discounts or shady remixes.
Good for her, but touring doesn't make you the voice of a generation or else Madonna would be it. So re-think that.
BTW was hyped crazy high and it's a totally different and non-comparable to Katy's divorce.
Cute attempts though.

[Allie]

Dictionaries don't lie, sorry!

[Retro]

Originally posted by Kats

Katy got 5 #1's with no discounts or shady remixes.
Good for her, but touring doesn't make you the voice of a generation or else Madonna would be it. So re-think that.
BTW was hyped crazy high and it's a totally different and non-comparable to Katy's divorce.
Cute attempts though.

She got three with no discounts or remixes.

Touring is pretty important to making money and being a big name in the industry, don't try to downplay the fact that Gaga could get a projected $300 million when her contemporaries almost always gross less than $100 million and max out around $150 million.

[dnav87]

Originally posted by Kats

Katy got 5 #1's with no discounts or shady remixes.
Good for her, but touring doesn't make you the voice of a generation or else Madonna would be it. So re-think that.
BTW was hyped crazy high and it's a totally different and non-comparable to Katy's divorce.
Cute attempts though.

Yeah cause Kanye West wasn't a remix of ET and Missy Elliot wasn't in LFN. And because Katy and Russell divorced when Gaga's album dropped.

Shame on me.

[jeremyyy]

Originally posted by Kats

Katy got 5 #1's with no discounts or shady remixes.
Good for her, but touring doesn't make you the voice of a generation or else Madonna would be it. So re-think that.
BTW was hyped crazy high and it's a totally different and non-comparable to Katy's divorce.
Cute attempts though.

CG - no remix or discount
TD - no remix or discount
ET - remix with Kanye
LFN - remix and discount
POM - no remix or discount

But Gaga's TF era sold more records WW than both of Katy's albums combined. Even with her 5 #1 singles, she's still about 40,000,000 records WW behind Gaga. Not to mention hundreds of millions of dollars behind Gaga in touring gross and over 100 awards behind Gaga.

[Rami328]

Originally posted by Kats

Katy got 5 #1's with no discounts or shady remixes.
Good for her, but touring doesn't make you the voice of a generation or else Madonna would be it. So re-think that.
BTW was hyped crazy high and it's a totally different and non-comparable to Katy's divorce.
Cute attempts though.

What about E.T and LFN though?

[2AM]

Originally posted by Retro Dance Freak

She got three with no discounts or remixes.

Touring is pretty important to making money and being a big name in the industry, don't try to downplay the fact that Gaga could get a projected $300 million when her contemporaries almost always gross less than $100 million and max out around $150 million.

Part of Me, Teenage Dream, California Gurls, Firework, E.T.
I'm not downplaying her touring, but it's not a major factor in being a voice of the generation or else Madonna would and she's not so...

[2AM]

I don't consider E.T. shady at all, it was a collaboration and the single version did well too so.

[dnav87]

Originally posted by Kats

Part of Me, Teenage Dream, California Gurls, Firework, E.T.
I'm not downplaying her touring, but it's not a major factor in being a voice of the generation or else Madonna would and she's not so...

So you're saying that it's about an actual singing voice? Therefore Katy wins because she has a superior voice??????

Please say yes. PLEASE

[ethan]

Definitely the two biggest, they each have their strength. I feel like Gaga represents a portion of our generation though; the Monsters. But she's very polarizing, where Katy is much less polarizing. I'd say Katy is because she is liked by a broader range of people.

[Sinister]

the E.T remix does not count because it wasn't like it was last minute...it was released as the official single

Like Jennifer Lopez did it back in 2001 with I'm Real remix with Ja Rule...hardly a difference

[cheers09]

being the "voice" of our generation doesnt require you to have succesful tours or breaking the king of pop's record, you need to be a representation of what our youth is today and how you relate to them and vice versa, idk why people keep dragging achievements here when its not even the point of the article.

[2AM]

Originally posted by jeremyyy

CG - no remix or discount
TD - no remix or discount
ET - remix with Kanye
LFN - remix and discount
POM - no remix or discount

But Gaga's TF era sold more records WW than both of Katy's albums combined. Even with her 5 #1 singles, she's still about 40,000,000 records WW behind Gaga. Not to mention hundreds of millions of dollars behind Gaga in touring gross and over 100 awards behind Gaga.

So much of this is either incorrect or irrelevant.
I won't bother.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Kats

Part of Me, Teenage Dream, California Gurls, Firework, E.T.
I'm not downplaying her touring, but it's not a major factor in being a voice of the generation or else Madonna would and she's not so...

Except Madonna's a nostalgia act with an already massive 30 year legacy, and was in fact the voice of an earlier generation, so that argument really doesn't apply...

[cheers09]

Originally posted by dnav87

So you're saying that it's about an actual singing voice? Therefore Katy wins because she has a superior voice??????

Please say yes. PLEASE

NO, everyone and their mother knows Gaga is a more of a consistent singer than katy, i can give you that. no delusions

[2AM]

Originally posted by dnav87

So you're saying that it's about an actual singing voice? Therefore Katy wins because she has a superior voice??????

Please say yes. PLEASE

Read my posts in this thread and you might get half a clue about what you're speaking about.

[2AM]

Originally posted by Retro Dance Freak

Except Madonna's a nostalgia act with an already massive 30 year legacy, and was in fact the voice of an earlier generation, so that argument really doesn't apply...

You think Gaga is selling out stadiums because of the BTW era alone?
Most of her support comes from her earlier music, that's what she is most known for. So my comment does apply and in any case touring isnt really relevant in being the voice of a generation.

[jeremyyy]

Originally posted by ethan

Definitely the two biggest, they each have their strength. I feel like Gaga represents a portion of our generation though; the Monsters. But she's very polarizing, where Katy is much less polarizing. I'd say Katy is because she is liked by a broader range of people.

But she's not, though, and touring receipts prove that. How can you say more people like Katy when more people are going to Gaga's tour, or when more people have bought her records than Katy's records? Gaga would win because this time will forever be connected to the gay rights movement (at least for America) and Gaga's name is synonmous with that and LGBT support.

There's this really weird misconception that if you go #1, people like you more than others, and that's just not true. The people of the GP who buy songs don't give a **** about who you are or what you do, they just buy your song and move on. In order for someone to be a defining popstar, people have to care about who you are and pay attention to you, and you can't deny that more people pay attention to Gaga than Katy.

Also Kats, Madonna is the voice for her generation. We're talking about the voice of our generation.