Admittedly yes it's exaggerated, but it's still worrying that she's changed her mind so many times on multiple issues.
Like the moderate vs progressive thing, literally just weeks apart and two different answers (the whole "moderate vs progressive" argument is dumb to me anyway; that really shouldn't matter when picking a candidate but it's still messy for her to switch so quickly).
This video exposes her biggest flaw - she'll change her mind whenever it's convenient for her.
The amount emails she sent were so small because most of them were sent on her own private server
1. You missed the whole point of my post. None of those were lies. (Well what she said about NAFTA towards the end might have been legitimate lying). It certainly wasn't "13 minutes straight of lying" since she wan't even on the screen for almost 1/2 that.
2. Lol What? Did you even watch you own video? Those were the emails on her private server. Susan Brooks was comparing the amount of emails she sent or received regarding Libya in 2011 versus 2012 (up and until the Benghazi attack). Brooks was referring to the emails that were on her private server. The issue that Brooks was complaining about was that the amount of emails illustrated Clinton/the Obama Administration was not concerned about Libya anymore until Benghazi. Of course, your video does not show her response to that or to certain other parts. Clinton responded to Brook's accusation "We certainly communicated in other methods besides email."
Don't get me wrong, there are legitimate reasons to not like Hillary and prefer Bernie. However, you can't just call something a lie to grab attention. Also, attacking her for changing her mind on gay marriage isn't going to win over votes since most Democrats also changed their mind about gay marriage in that same time frame.
Admittedly yes it's exaggerated, but it's still worrying that she's changed her mind so many times on multiple issues.
Like the moderate vs progressive thing, literally just weeks apart and two different answers (the whole "moderate vs progressive" argument is dumb to me anyway; that really shouldn't matter when picking a candidate but it's still messy for her to switch so quickly).
That one's a question of context. She's progressive; her voting record proves that pretty solidly. Compared to Bernie, she's more moderate - she embraces that because it exemplifies her sense of pragmatism and allows her to criticize his idealism.
She said she's always fought for the same values and principles. She was against her husband's "Don't Ask Don't Tell" in 1999 and said same sex unions should be recognized. With regard to her being against same sex marriage, she said in 2000 people in gay marriages should be given equal rights and respect under the law. Full context is important. She has always been with her values in principles and made that proven in 2013.
From 2:10-2:30
She said she was a progressive and her senate record proves it. She was the 11th most liberal senator during her time. With regards to her moderate comments, someone said that on certain issues she isn't progressive and she plead guilty to that because like she says now, she's a progressive who gets things done. You have to compromise and she's done exactly that. She is definitely a progressive at heart, moderate on some issues, but not as liberal as Sanders. She didn't lie saying she has a range of views (progressive to moderate) rooted in her values (of getting things done). Next
From 3:00-3:40
Well she was just confused. In certain contexts she was correct with the 90-95% of emails turned over. According to a specific count in the State Department. Gowdy was incorrect on his account. And with regard to Bill, she still could've sent things to Bill because clearly he was being funny and joking with his "I don't use emails" answer by the way he's laughing and having fun. Him saying that doesn't prove either side.
From 5:42-6:00
Clinton actually did fight against Wall Street. Though she may not have been tough, depends on how you define that. Either way that's no lie. Again context is important
At about 6:30
With all of her banking donations. Sure she got donations from those corporations but this part of the video is useless because she tells no lie. It just shows she received money from these people. VERY disingenuous of the video
7:00-7:20
This was weird but she clearly defended herself with donations she received after 9/11. The quote is just awkward but she did use her funds to help with it.
From 7:30-8:20
This has got to be one of the most outrageous lies against her. She attacked Obama because he said her plan didn't go far enough. He also at the time didn't put out his own plan and she felt attacked because she offered what he didn't. However the reason she attacked Bernie was because his plan actually would undo Obamacare (this is true, Bernie lies about this) and she doesn't want that to happen. And she's right. A single payer system actually undoes Obamacare that's why she isn't here for that. No lie
All of the Sniper Fire video
She says that as she was entering Bosnia there were sniper fires. This may be the only outright, inexcusable lie because like...clearly that's not true .
11:00-END
she didn't lie about NAFTA either. As it stood she said she would support it but it never did what it was supposed to do that's why she didn't support it AFTER the fact. It had nothing to do with flip flopping.
As I've said many times before the attacks against her are disingenuous and I find it highly problematic even the Democratic Party believes this BS. This is for republicans to believe. Not the party you support.
I always feel like it is a little unfair to judge Hillary based on Bill Clinton's presidency. She may have publicly supported the measures and tried to rally support for them, but she didn't have actual political say. She wasn't a politician in the 90s. She didn't vote for her husbands bills or sign them. Also, who wouldn't publicly support. their spouse if they were president, even if they had private reservations about it. Being First Lady is a role and that role is not shaping policy. I'm not playing into gender roles, because if I were First Gentleman I wouldn't sabotage my partner's policies. Just my thoughts.
She said she's always fought for the same values and principles. She was against her husband's "Don't Ask Don't Tell" in 1999 and said same sex unions should be recognized. With regard to her being against same sex marriage, she said in 2000 people in gay marriages should be given equal rights and respect under the law. Full context is important. She has always been with her values in principles and made that proven in 2013.
From 2:10-2:30
She said she was a progressive and her senate record proves it. She was the 11th most liberal senator during her time. With regards to her moderate comments, someone said that on certain issues she isn't progressive and she plead guilty to that because like she says now, she's a progressive who gets things done. You have to compromise and she's done exactly that. She is definitely a progressive at heart, moderate on some issues, but not as liberal as Sanders. She didn't lie saying she has a range of views (progressive to moderate) rooted in her values (of getting things done). Next
From 3:00-3:40
Well she was just confused. In certain contexts she was correct with the 90-95% of emails turned over. According to a specific count in the State Department. Gowdy was incorrect on his account. And with regard to Bill, she still could've sent things to Bill because clearly he was being funny and joking with his "I don't use emails" answer by the way he's laughing and having fun. Him saying that doesn't prove either side.
From 5:42-6:00
Clinton actually did fight against Wall Street. Though she may not have been tough, depends on how you define that. Either way that's no lie. Again context is important
At about 6:30
With all of her banking donations. Sure she got donations from those corporations but this part of the video is useless because she tells no lie. It just shows she received money from these people. VERY disingenuous of the video
7:00-7:20
This was weird but she clearly defended herself with donations she received after 9/11. The quote is just awkward but she did use her funds to help with it.
From 7:30-8:20
This has got to be one of the most outrageous lies against her. She attacked Obama because he said her plan didn't go far enough. He also at the time didn't put out his own plan and she felt attacked because she offered what he didn't. However the reason she attacked Bernie was because his plan actually would undo Obamacare (this is true, Bernie lies about this) and she doesn't want that to happen. And she's right. A single payer system actually undoes Obamacare that's why she isn't here for that. No lie
All of the Sniper Fire video
She says that as she was entering Bosnia there were sniper fires. This may be the only outright, inexcusable lie because like...clearly that's not true .
11:00-END
she didn't lie about NAFTA either. As it stood she said she would support it but it never did what it was supposed to do that's why she didn't support it AFTER the fact. It had nothing to do with flip flopping.
As I've said many times before the attacks against her are disingenuous and I find it highly problematic even the Democratic Party believes this BS. This is for republicans to believe. Not the party you support.
She said she was against same-sex marriage in front of the college audience in 2002 though.
As for the rest of the comments I'm glad you clarified them. I can see where the context plays a part in her comments, but some of these are still just... suspicious. There seems to be a lot of back and forth with her, which I guess is a good thing since she can work with both sides? I don't know; she just feels very dishonest/untrustworthy to me, but I can respect everything that she's done while in government.
I'd probably still vote for her over the Republican nominee, IF she beats Bernie.
I always feel like it is a little unfair to judge Hillary based on Bill Clinton's presidency. She may have publicly supported the measures and tried to rally support for them, but she didn't have actual political say. She wasn't a politician in the 90s. She didn't vote for her husbands bills or sign them. Also, who wouldn't publicly support. their spouse if they were president, even if they had private reservations about it. Being First Lady is a role and that role is not shaping policy. I'm not playing into gender roles, because if I were First Gentleman I wouldn't sabotage my partner's policies. Just my thoughts.
There's actually a video of Elizabeth Warren talking with someone where she said Hillary convinced Bill to vote against a bankruptcy bill while he was president, but then Hillary voted for that same bill while she was a senator.
She said she was against same-sex marriage in front of the college audience in 2002 though.
As for the rest of the comments I'm glad you clarified them. I can see where the context plays a part in her comments, but some of these are still just... suspicious. There seems to be a lot of back and forth with her, which I guess is a good thing since she can work with both sides? I don't know; she just feels very dishonest/untrustworthy to me, but I can respect everything that she's done while in government.
I'd probably still vote for her over the Republican nominee, IF she beats Bernie.
Yeah same sex marriage was always the...iffy thing with me. I always felt she was for it given her 2000 comments but her 2002-04 comments suggested otherwise. But I'm just happy she finally made the right decision (though late) in 2013.
As long as she can have your support IF she beats Bernie, then that's good enough for me! .
There's actually a video of Elizabeth Warren talking with someone where she said Hillary convinced Bill to vote against a bankruptcy bill while he was president, but then Hillary voted for that same bill while she was a senator.
She is accountable for her vote only. Bill can't wash his hands like Pontius Pilate. I'm not even sure of the specific legislation you are referring to.
(the whole "moderate vs progressive" argument is dumb to me anyway; that really shouldn't matter when picking a candidate but it's still messy for her to switch so quickly).
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