[Retro]

Originally posted by St. Charles

Hey, no matter who wins this election I'm going to stay humble in victory and graceful in defeat. I mean, sometimes it's fun to get cocky. But I can't stay like that for long.

That's my campus's problem right now. I've resigned myself to a likely NH loss but everyone here is TOTALLY up in arms over Bernie losing Iowa.

[Javan]

Originally posted by Retro

In your first paragraph, you're essentially criticizing the way she answered, as even I did, while admitting you have full knowledge of the fact that she has better answers at her disposal and has good foreign policy experience.

I didn't admit anything. It would have been a better answer if she actually made some notable achievements as SOS. Hence the emphasis on "allegedly". But the fact that she didn't do so leads me to believe she didn't really do much.

Originally posted by Retro

As for the second part, no. If you can't establish correlation or causation with actions, words, or legislation, that is simply false and it is irresponsible to base your vote - or just part of it - simply on who gave her money to speak during a period in which she was neither in office nor campaigning - or even disclosing any decision to seek office.

Honestly. Read between the lines. Someone said you're a history major? Then you should very well known that money to a candidate is an investment. You invest to buy their representation, or you invest because they already represent you and you want them to get into office. It's common sense. Hillary just accused republican candidates of being subject to the same modes of corruption. Y'all believe they transferring 6 figures to her personal bank account because she has a nice speaking voice? Get real.

[Jolie's Lips]

I don't stan for Trump anymore after he endorsed Palin + the fact that he stans Adele bothers me immensely. I'm just too lazy to change my avatar and sig. I just love following politics.

[King Maxx]

Originally posted by Marvin

It's kinda sad that people think Bernie's "promises" (not sure if he's actually used that word) - mainly free tuition and free healthcare - are unrealistic.

It's only unrealistic because no one is willing to do something different.

Everyone wants this. No one is disputing this or calling it unrealistic. His plans of getting it done is what's unrealistic.

[Reza]

Originally posted by Cheetos

Hillary really slayed. Foreign policy is really her thing.

she was the secretary of state for 4 years and aided in the takedown of Osama bin laden. She's a savage when it comes to foreign policy.

[RatedG²]

Just got home. Is it still on? Over?

How was Bernie? And Hillary?

[Retro]

Originally posted by Javan

I didn't admit anything. It would have been a better answer if she actually made some notable achievements as SOS. Hence the emphasis on "allegedly". But the fact that she didn't do so leads me to believe she didn't really do much.

Then go look for yourself, lord. The facts are out there. The praise is out there. It's not her fault you're being "led to believe" due to willful ignorance after we've been discussing it.

Originally posted by Javan

Honestly. Read between the lines. Someone said you're a history major? Then you should very well known that money to a candidate is an investment. You invest to buy their representation, or you invest because they already represent you and you want them to get into office. It's common sense. Hillary just accused republican candidates of being subject to the same modes of corruption. Y'all believe they transferring 6 figures to her personal bank account because she has a nice speaking voice? Get real.

Hillary hadn't even declared she'd run good lord, she was speaking as a former government official

You have made absolutely no case for her being corrupted by Wall St. in literally any way. There is zero evidence, zero proof. I have nothing more to say against it than I've said already or than Hillary said herself, and if you don't believe it from me, I don't know what to tell you. Listen to any one of the many other people saying you're wrong?

And I dunno where they got that because I am in a business school, the only history here should actually be so biased toward the right so as to make me a Republican!

[Radiance]

Originally posted by Marvin

It's kinda sad that people think Bernie's "promises" (not sure if he's actually used that word) - mainly free tuition and free healthcare - are unrealistic.

It's only unrealistic because no one is willing to do something different.

Its unrealistic because even Obamacare was a near impossible feat, and still sustains continuous attempts to undermine it (sometimes successfully, especially on the state level)

[Ramcoro]

Originally posted by Javan

I didn't admit anything. It would have been a better answer if she actually made some notable achievements as SOS. Hence the emphasis on "allegedly". But the fact that she didn't do so leads me to believe she didn't really do much.



Honestly. Read between the lines. Someone said you're a history major? Then you should very well known that money to a candidate is an investment. You invest to buy their representation, or you invest because they already represent you and you want them to get into office. It's common sense. Hillary just accused republican candidates of being subject to the same modes of corruption. Y'all believe they transferring 6 figures to her personal bank account because she has a nice speaking voice? Get real.

Didn't those speaking fees go to charity (I.e. The Clinton Foundation)?

[Jolie's Lips]

I wouldn't mind paying so much tuition if the quality of the education wasn't so bad. As someone who has gone to school in several different countries, I can say that the American college system is by far the least rigorous. We are paying more money only to get dumber. Not to mention that our colleges are too liberal and brainwash us into hating our own country. Just make it free. I'm Team Bernie on this one.

[MAKSIM]

Originally posted by Jolie's Lips

I wouldn't mind paying so much tuition if the quality of the education wasn't so bad. As someone who has gone to school in several different countries, I can say that the American college system is by far the least rigorous. We are paying more money only to get dumber. Not to mention that our colleges are too liberal and brainwash us into hating our own country. Just make it free. I'm Team Bernie on this one.

For all those reasons listed above is exactly why we should not be using taxed money to fully fund these school's tuitions. It's a joke. We shouldn't be pushing more people into these broken colleges that only exist because this idea that everyone needs to go to a four year institution is enforced.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Jolie's Lips

I wouldn't mind paying so much tuition if the quality of the education wasn't so bad. As someone who has gone to school in several different countries, I can say that the American college system is by far the least rigorous. We are paying more money only to get dumber. Not to mention that our colleges are too liberal and brainwash us into hating our own country. Just make it free. I'm Team Bernie on this one.

Team Hillary more logically advocates for reducing costs to all students of all institutions, whereas the Team Sanders plan would only be in effect - if greater effect - for public institutions and community colleges.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Marvin

It's kinda sad that people think Bernie's "promises" (not sure if he's actually used that word) - mainly free tuition and free healthcare - are unrealistic.

It's only unrealistic because no one is willing to do something different.

I'd argue that they're unrealistic goals because over half of voters probably don't even want them. Not even all democrats want them.

Also, his healthcare goal isn't exactly "free healthcare," although I know you meant free for citizens. It would be government paid entirely and those costs could be significant, aside from the opposition from the right.

I don't want free public tuition. Many other democrats don't either.

[Jolie's Lips]

The fact that in 2004 Hillary was against gay marriage and now she's all like "I'm down with the homos!!!!" is absolutely vile. 2004 is not that long ago either. It's not like it was 1964 where supporting gays was a no-no for everyone. She is two-faced. She'd literally sell her own daughter if it could make her President.

[Mickey]

Originally posted by RatedG²

Just got home. Is it still on? Over?

How was Bernie? And Hillary?

It's over. I didn't see Bernie but I thought Hillary had a tough night, she got *really* strange questions from left field. There was a crazy rabbi talking about what's in his pockets that ended up being a question about staying humble

[St. Charles]

Originally posted by Retro

That's my campus's problem right now. I've resigned myself to a likely NH loss but everyone here is TOTALLY up in arms over Bernie losing Iowa.

I'm the only Hillary supporter in my AP Government class. There are about 8 Bernie supporters. When the teacher asked them who would be voting in the primaries/general election...

Like 3 people raised their hand.

[St. Charles]

Originally posted by Jolie's Lips

The fact that in 2004 Hillary was against gay marriage and now she's all like "I'm down with the homos!!!!" is absolutely vile. 2004 is not that long ago either. It's not like it was 1964 where supporting gays was a no-no for everyone. She is two-faced. She'd literally sell her own daughter if it could make her President.

Are you really a Trump stan? Or is it just for a joke like what Giselle did with Palin?

[RatedG²]

Originally posted by Mickey

It's over. I didn't see Bernie but I thought Hillary had a tough night, she got *really* strange questions from left field. There was a crazy rabbi talking about what's in his pockets that ended up being a question about staying humble

Hmm. Well I hope she does better tomorrow. This is only a town hall so whatever

[Mike91]

[RatedG²]

the trolling is in full force I see. I don't have time for this y'all have fun. See you about this time tomorrow!