[xclusivestylesz]

some? nahh i dont think i'v ever heard of that, whats the link?

[Love]

Originally posted by bobbymfw

Yes, basically. This is why Madonna cares much less about her album sales because she only made roughly $4 million from Hard Candy and at least 10x that from her latest tour. It's even worse for bands because that 10% often gets divided among the members unless you're like...Linkin Park or Nickelback or Metallica, then the band's share of the revenue is usually larger.

In the grand scheme of things, people actually spend more $ now than they did when they were buying CD's because the price of one iPhone/iPod is equivalent to like 25-30 CDs! And artists and labels don't get ANY money from the sale of those--it all goes to Apple (or Zune or whatever MP3 player service).

so that`s why artists like ACDC, Fergie, and Rihanna tour a lot

[Love]

Originally posted by xclusivestylesz

some? nahh i dont think i'v ever heard of that, whats the link?

the website is www.pulsemusic.proboards48.com

[bobbymfw]

Originally posted by ladyroc

Why should they?

Because if it weren't for music, I doubt most people would even be buying iPods or iPhones, especially not at $400. The problem is that Apple not only undermines an artist's and label's profit by giving consumers a reason to avoid buying CD's but they also take a significant portion of the proceeds generated by digital download sales (30%) so the artists and labels are getting screwed out of a LOT of money. Ringtones and Guitar Hero/Rock Band licensing don't even come close to making up for the loss.

Another thing to consider is a digital single = roughly 1/10 of an album, so when a single sells 3 million downloads, that's only equivalent to about 300k albums sold. That's a piss-poor number and that's why labels have such a hard time getting enough sales momentum from singles.

[Huddy1124]

hmmp
i've only brought like 5 albums (mostly ciara & beyonce/DC3 ) in the past
8 years thats sad... imma start supporting artist
i like more

oh yea and i get most of my music using playlist.com
and the downloadhelper firefox add on

[Martin]

Seriously, if i don't download mp3s i won't know many kind of music,
coz there' s no way people will buy every album from Mainstream artist.
And i doubt there are people that never download illegally

[bobbymfw]

Originally posted by Martin

Seriously, if i don't download mp3s i won't know many kind of music,
coz there' s no way people will buy every album from Mainstream artist.
And i doubt there are people that never download illegally

That's another cop-out excuse that didn't exist until this decade. In the 90's there was obviously enough profit in the music industry for artists to be promoted properly so that they could get mainstream exposure. It shouldn't have to come down to stealing music in order to discover it, especially when full albums, let alone singles, are being offered at bargain prices these days.

[Kworb]

Originally posted by JSparksMCarey

Stop trying to justify stealing music, its against the law so its impossible to justify it. And who cares if someone is "overexposed". They spend money to make music, and they need money back from sales so they can do it AGAIN. And so what if you want check out a artist to see if you like them, theirs no reason why you have to illegally get their music. Go out and listen to it at the store. Their are tons of stores where you can go listen to the album RIGHT in the store. Or you can just go look on youtube for the songs or on iTunes you can get a 30 second preview. And on Rhapsody you can listen to the WHOLE song as a preview. So dont give me that bull about you not wanting to buy a album just to experiemnt if you like them. And so you think just because artists like beyonce, mariah Carey, Rihanna, Britney spears, etc. have TONS of money we dont have to buy their music because they have enough money. Well so then you are saying we shouldnt pay doctoirs and lawyers and dentists money because they have enoguh right?

I live in the Netherlands and here it's legal to download. Without downloading I wouldn't have bought any of the music that I've bought. I probably wouldn't listen to music at all. These days people sending each other mp3s is the main way that artists gain fans. It is great and all real artists, who want their music to be heard, support it.

[-mUsIcLoVeR-]

Originally posted by Kworb

I live in the Netherlands and here it's legal to download. Without downloading I wouldn't have bought any of the music that I've bought. I probably wouldn't listen to music at all. These days people sending each other mp3s is the main way that artists gain fans. It is great and all real artists, who want their music to be heard, support it.

It's also legal here in the Philippines, I think.

[bobbymfw]

Originally posted by Kworb

I live in the Netherlands and here it's legal to download. Without downloading I wouldn't have bought any of the music that I've bought. I probably wouldn't listen to music at all. These days people sending each other mp3s is the main way that artists gain fans. It is great and all real artists, who want their music to be heard, support it.

I'm sorry but what's the use in having fans if you've got nothing to show for it? Sure it's nice to be popular, but being rich in fans won't pay the bills. I semi-understand where you're coming from, but at the same time, people need to be compensated for what they do. It's their living.

[gracee]

It's legal here too.

[Love]

Originally posted by bobbymfw

That's another cop-out excuse that didn't exist until this decade. In the 90's there was obviously enough profit in the music industry for artists to be promoted properly so that they could get mainstream exposure. It shouldn't have to come down to stealing music in order to discover it, especially when full albums, let alone singles, are being offered at bargain prices these days.

Record labels don`t promote their artists like they used to. Most of the time artists release albums without their single doing much. Brandy Keyshia Cole Jamie Foxx and Mary J. Blige didn`t get a lot of promotion with their recent albums, but I guess it costs too much for labels to properly promote their artists, since they`re losing money from illegal dowloads and low album sales.

[Love]

Originally posted by bobbymfw

I'm sorry but what's the use in having fans if you've got nothing to show for it? Sure it's nice to be popular, but being rich in fans won't pay the bills. I semi-understand where you're coming from, but at the same time, people need to be compensated for what they do. It's their living.

Most artists and industry execs are just in it for the money . They wouldn`t be in the industry if they didn`t expect it to make them rich (or semi-rich)

[ct40]

I download my singles directly to my Sprint phone from the music store. I also buy the albums when they first come out from Circuit City. I also use LimeWire.

[oshbaby]

Originally posted by bobbymfw

Well, everybody steals just a little bit. We all take free refills from the soda fountain now and then or sneak a few jellybeans at the candy store every once in a while. I pay a lot of good and hard-earned $ to the music industry and I don't think 20 free songs a year will hurt, considering I pay for roughly 500 songs a year.

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[JM4ever]

It just showed up

[Rico Shameless v2]

Originally posted by bobbymfw

Let's be honest, the majority of people that download music illegally don't spend $ on these artists AT ALL. Everybody assumes that concert sales and merchandise make up for the fact that album sales are way down, but they don't. And when people cop out the old excuse that they "don't want to support the greedy record labels," they're usually BS-ing people to justify their own behavior.

Here's the breakdown of a CD's revenue:

CD costs $13.99:

$1.00=manufacturing/shipping
$1.00=the artist
$1.00=the producer(s)
$.50=album artwork
$1.50=music videos
$2.00=mixers/instrumentalists/engineers
$1.00=additional promo
$3.00=Music label
$3.00=retailer

Basically, that's an estimate of how the CD pie is divided. And yet people are willing to pay $400 for a portable music player (that costs less than $20 to manufacture) and you never hear one word about how they refuse to support the greedy Apple execs. What this all boils down to is the fact that people lack integrity and the ability to do simple math.

Would that include the duplication process?

[LONGWAY2GO.]

download... if i like i buy

[Pinter]

i Buy a Cassettes.

[Callisto.]

I convert songs from Youtube.