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Discussion: Why Are Gaga&Monsters Hated?
Member Since: 8/18/2013
Posts: 3,396
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Originally posted by Swag
What the OP says plus much much more
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And people like you are basically the reason why some Monsters have started to become so trollish and hateful against other artists. Can you just stop with your obsession with Gaga? Just keep replying to threads of your own fave and stop trying so hard to see everything Gaga does as something bad. Thank You.
I don't agree and I do agree. There are a lot of trolls on Twitter and they don't really show how most Monsters are, the majority of the Monsters aren't ratchet Twitter hoes, ATRL stans or GGD gays. The majority of this fanbase just enjoys the music and enjoys discussing Gaga. Gaga's fanbase is so huge. If 100~400 people do something, it doesn't mean the other 800.000 people do it too.
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Member Since: 4/10/2012
Posts: 17,020
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Originally posted by itsAllen
So other artists and their fans aren't relevant?
Katy isn't relevant?
Miley isn't relevant?
Britney isn't relevant?
Check iTunes.
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The girls you listed are dragged everyday by media and critics, specially Miley, so they are relevant.
I never implied they're not.
And then again, you claim to be a Gaga fan, yet you play the check yo itunes card.
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
Posts: 7,152
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Originally posted by ARTPOPULAR
What kind of explanation.....Her single didn't underperform. It peaked at #4 and has been in the top ten of iTunes and Billboard's Hot 100 for over a month. By some other pop girl's standards, that is great performance for any single whether it's a lead single or not.
I'm not being pretentious. She does have the best fans. She is the best. Nobody is putting on a show or selling out arenas (with Madonna as the exception who's had 30 years to rack up a loyal fan base while Gaga has had only FIVE) worldwide like Gaga is so.....shutup.
Of course people are going to find a reason to hate on Gaga by saying her fans are terrible and blah blah, when we ALL know an artist has no control over what their fans do and Gaga has already issued her disapproval of inappropriate behavior by fans.
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What im saying is to say "she has the best fans and is the best" is a opinion, its not a fact. Her single was a hit, not a smash like all monsters were putting it out to be & saying she will ruin careers, theres plenty of artists who sell out arenas as well. Check beyonce, rih, taylor swift. Lady gaga is just in their lane as well
lol @ the "shut up" there you ago once again proving why this thread exists immature
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
Posts: 8,761
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Originally posted by Swag
What the OP says plus much much more
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Go paint ARTFLOP or whatever on your chest. Again.
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Member Since: 4/10/2011
Posts: 14,331
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Originally posted by Rama
The girls you listed are dragged everyday by media and critics, specially Miley, so they are relevant.
I never implied they're not.
And then again, you claim to be a Gaga fan, yet you play the check yo itunes card.
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Just because I stick by the facts? Please.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
Posts: 1,994
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Originally posted by itsAllen
So now the monster's relevancy starts and ends with ATRL? Sis what are you even trying to say though? Like.
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LOL. That's not what I said. Gaga's fans' relevancy definitely isn't only existent in ATRL. Her fans get the attention of the media, articles are written about them, Gaga is blamed for things they do, bloggers use her fans' threats as ammo to get back at her. I mean, overall relevance in the pop culture realm is THERE sis.
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Member Since: 12/1/2010
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Originally posted by itsAllen
Agreed.
But back to the whole fanbase size thing. Yeah I agree that concerts are a huge part of measuring an artists fanbase. It shows the dedication of the fanbase. I still believe it is important to see how artists are doing on social media sites to see just how large their fanbase is and of course single and album sales provide a lot of insight too.
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Right, social media is definitely important! A lot of people will like whatever is hot at the moment too, but I don't think those people are psychotic stans.
I'd say Bieber, One Direction, and Gaga (sometimes the Hive) are constantly referenced in pop/Internet culture and for the same reason (s).
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Member Since: 8/19/2011
Posts: 8,761
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All stan bases are like this. Anyone who doesn't think so doesn't know how to use twitter very well. It's everywhere. Lady Gaga's monsters are just a much bigger group. To try and say people act differently based on what pop star a person likes is hilarious.
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Member Since: 4/10/2011
Posts: 14,331
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Originally posted by ARTPOPULAR
LOL. That's not what I said. Gaga's fans' relevancy definitely isn't only existent in ATRL. Her fans get the attention of the media, articles are written about them, Gaga is blamed for things they do, bloggers use her fans' threats as ammo to get back at her. I mean, overall relevance in the pop culture realm is THERE sis.
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But this happens with tons of other fan bases though...
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Member Since: 8/19/2013
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Don't act like monsters are the only fanbase that shades other artists, lets be honest.
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Member Since: 4/10/2012
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Originally posted by itsAllen
Just because I stick by the facts? Please.
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By the facts or what?
How do iTunes positions have anything to do with the topic?
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Member Since: 1/15/2011
Posts: 12,295
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I'm sorry that people are so jealous of us... but I can't help it that we're so popular.
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Member Since: 4/10/2011
Posts: 14,331
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Originally posted by Rama
By the facts or what?
How do iTunes positions have anything to do with the topic?
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You brought up relevancy. I believe the sales of a single provide some insight to relevancy.
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Member Since: 8/26/2011
Posts: 27,690
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Originally posted by Swine
And people like you are basically the reason why some Monsters have started to become so trollish and hateful against other artists. Can you just stop with your obsession with Gaga? Just keep replying to threads of your own fave and stop trying so hard to see everything Gaga does as something bad. Thank You.
I don't agree and I do agree. There are a lot of trolls on Twitter and they don't really show how most Monsters are, the majority of the Monsters aren't ratchet Twitter hoes, ATRL stans or GGD gays. The majority of this fanbase just enjoys the music and enjoys discussing Gaga. Gaga's fanbase is so huge. If 100~400 people do something, it doesn't mean the other 800.000 people do it too.
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Hmm. True.
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Member Since: 4/10/2012
Posts: 17,020
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Originally posted by MrJacob
Don't act like monsters are the only fanbase that shades other artists, lets be honest.
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But sis we invented dragging, shading, exposing and fighting.
Just like Gaga, we invented everything.
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Member Since: 9/1/2013
Posts: 1,994
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Originally posted by Alvajay
What im saying is to say "she has the best fans and is the best" is a opinion, its not a fact. Her single was a hit, not a smash like all monsters were putting it out to be & saying she will ruin careers, theres plenty of artists who sell out arenas as well. Check beyonce, rih, taylor swift. Lady gaga is just in their lane as well
lol @ the "shut up" there you ago once again proving why this thread exists immature
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Lol because it wasn't immature to try to say that "if she's the best then how come....!!!"
And death at the generalization! I never said she would be ending careers. And all Bey DOES is tours. That is her career because she's not present on the radio so...anyway.
But so now we have hits and smashes? Ok.
It's much easier for other people who are fans of basic pop stars to try to throw it back in our face if Gaga doesn't go #1 because they never have to worry about their fave being put to such a high standard.
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Member Since: 8/1/2012
Posts: 25,037
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They are extremely delusional and act like Gaga is the only female singer in the world.
Like stop.
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Originally posted by Rama
But sis we invented dragging, shading, exposing and fighting.
Just like Gaga, we invented everything.
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Exactly.
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Member Since: 4/10/2012
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Originally posted by itsAllen
You brought up relevancy. I believe the sales of a single provide some insight to relevancy.
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Yeah, the relevancy of the fanbase, not Gaga's.
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Member Since: 11/29/2011
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basically, we're being made the scapegoat for behavior that exists in every single fan base. it's really not even to bring us down, it's to try and make gaga look bad bc she was a HUGE pop presence at one point and crushed the competition seemingly effortlessly. that's why there's threads being made on the daily about how she's "flopping/underperforming/etc". bases are getting their revenge bc gaga outshined their faves for so long, and we're paying the price for it.
and on the topic of pretentiousness within gaga and the monsters, gaga isn't pretentious whatsoever. she loves and stands by what she does. her quick rise to fame and the amount of records she had broken, awards she had received, and acclaim she had obtained in such a short time made it easy as hell for her fans to feel like she was the s*** and that there was no other pop star that could touch her. obviously now we see that the acclaim she once had has dwindled a bit, but her fans' (the ones who didn't jump ship anyway) feelings for her have not, and now here we are being called egotistical and pretentious because our feelings for her weren't easily deterred by her sophomore slump.
that's just how I see it though. I'm sure different people have different views, and that's fine.
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Member Since: 6/2/2011
Posts: 9,459
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There are only 2 reasons why I stopped stanning for Gaga!
1. The Monsters became unbearable when another pop girl was more successful than Gaga!
2. Because Gaga makes her fans believe that her music is pure art and she's going to save pop music!
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