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News: Salvation Army Director: "Gays Should Be Put To Death"
Member Since: 3/17/2012
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Originally posted by Scandal & Media
He's saying that his opinions don't reflect those of every other person in his gender, race, sexuality, religion,etc.
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No ****. There's no rubric to gender, race and sexuality. There is one however to religion.
Once again, why are you guys comparing them? No one is saying all black people or all females think the same because there's no set specifications for those identities.
There is for christianity. It exists solely because of the bible.
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Member Since: 10/28/2011
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Originally posted by feuxtography
When it comes to gay rights and how christians are involved? Why would anyone expect straight people of to understand what christianity has done to any chance of progress.
You see it through a complete different lens because you dont have to worry about anything getting taken away from you and you're already privileged enough.
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There you go generalizing again.
You are basically like a lot of Black supremacists. They saw what some Whites did to oppress Blacks and then assumed that all Whites sought to oppress them. Saying all Christians hate Gays and that Christianity is the biggest thing blocking Gay progress is the same as saying all White people hate Blacks and the existence of White people is blocking Black progress. ![zzz](images/smilies/images/smilies/zzz.gif)
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Member Since: 4/6/2011
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Boycotted them. They can continue seething over us.
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Member Since: 12/14/2011
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Originally posted by WoozyFloozy
I would be interested in a source for this.
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Any sane person would not believe in putting a minority group to death, Christian or not.
Marriage, adoption, etc. have nothing to do with this.
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Member Since: 3/17/2012
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Originally posted by Dancehall Queen
Hate as in attacking religion constantly, mocking, making generalizations, all that jazz.
You won't get anywhere yelling and insulting. The only way to be accepted is to become mainstream. EVERY suppressed group has done this. The way the media is doing it now is gays = happy and friendly, often weak and bullied, and these extremist = dumb and hateful.
I'm gay, and not even Christian.
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JKSLDFJSDKL no every minority has NOT done this. Retaining slaves was voted IN by the majority. Interracial marriage was voted AGAINST by the majority.
It wasn't until the courts came in that either of those were liberated.
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Member Since: 12/14/2011
Posts: 21,274
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Originally posted by ****iNESS
I really don't get why we're still arguing over this.
The point is, you can't judge an entire group of people for someone else's idiocy.
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Pretty much.
if you want to choose to be jaded and view all people of a certain religion in a negative light because of some peoples' actions, be my guest. But you're not making any progress by doing so.
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Member Since: 6/25/2010
Posts: 18,931
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Originally posted by feuxtography
The bible does tell christians to behave this way. ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif) And it is part of the bibles teaching? Not including leviticus, I can reference 5 other times homosexuality is damned.
God expects his followers to spread and enforce his message, its in the bible...
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How many times have you read the bible?
The most religious guy I know, like hands out flyers at school and invites people to his church and carries his Bible with him everywhere and studies, is so accepting. You should know there's people like him. His church even held this pro-gay type thing that he posted on his facebook before and after, like "going to go to blah blah discussion about homosexuality, good to be informed" and then after "Jesus loves everyone.. no place for hate... love." yada yada.
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Member Since: 4/21/2012
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Originally posted by Muggwa
You don't understand that most Christians DO NOT agree with this philosophy. You saying that all Christians are hateful assholes DOES have a negative bearing, and it is exactly the same as a straight person saying that all gays are effeminate ******* that don't deserve rights or opinions.
The KKK has NOTHING to do with this, and frankly, I'm insulted that you brought it up.
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You need to understand that it's their belief system. It doesn't matter
if "most christians do not agree", IT'S IN THEIR DOCTRINE.
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Originally posted by ****iNESS
Disagreeing with someone's personal beliefs doesn't really compare to standing up to a schoolyard bully. ![Dancehall Queen](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/dancehall_zps88e4c4c6.png)
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People who say "gays should be put to death" aren't bullies?
I really don't care if it's somebody's "personal beliefs" if it means I
should be put to death. I have the right to live my life and I have the
right to be happy living it with another man if I damn well please.
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Member Since: 9/22/2011
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Originally posted by Muggwa
Any sane person would not believe in putting a minority group to death, Christian or not.
Marriage, adoption, etc. have nothing to do with this.
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Still, I would be interested in a poll or something. Made up statistics are kind of a pet peeve of mine. ![Keir](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/keir_zps24e7c972.gif)
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Member Since: 3/17/2012
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Originally posted by ****iNESS
Disagreeing with someone's personal beliefs doesn't really compare to standing up to a schoolyard bully. ![Dancehall Queen](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/dancehall_zps88e4c4c6.png)
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A certain personal belief actually has power and merit to it though. Gay marriage is only legal in 6 states.....the rest....... ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif) And in some of these states, marriage is the least of a gays worry.
So uhm, its a lot more than a personal belief.
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Member Since: 10/28/2011
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Originally posted by Maven
You need to understand that it's their belief system. It doesn't matter
if "most christians do not agree", IT'S IN THEIR DOCTRINE.
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No, no, no. You are acting like all Christians see things the same way. EVERYTHING is up for interpretation.
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Member Since: 6/25/2010
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Originally posted by feuxtography
JKSLDFJSDKL no every minority has NOT done this. Retaining slaves was voted IN by the majority. Interracial marriage was voted AGAINST by the majority.
It wasn't until the courts came in that either of those were liberated.
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At some point, yes. Look up the debate on ebonics.
Edit: Bitch, you missed my point completely. I'm talking peaceful protests and **** and i don't even know where the **** you are looking.
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Member Since: 5/17/2010
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Some of you sound just as angry and bigoted as those anti-gay church folk. Two different ends of the spectrums with the same rationale. ![Dancehall Queen](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/dancehall_zps88e4c4c6.png)
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Member Since: 3/17/2012
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Originally posted by Muggwa
You don't understand that most Christians DO NOT agree with this philosophy. You saying that all Christians are hateful assholes DOES have a negative bearing, and it is exactly the same as a straight person saying that all gays are effeminate ******* that don't deserve rights or opinions.
The KKK has NOTHING to do with this, and frankly, I'm insulted that you brought it up.
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I'm glad you were. Its disgusting everytime someone like you comes into a thread like this and expects gays to hug the christians and accept their ******** because "they're not ALL like that" even though the majority has proven themselves to be.
And no, its not the same. Nothing happens when I say christians are pigs. Stuff does happen when people say gays dont deserve rights. What happens? They get their rights taken away. (see prop 8) which by the way, was voted in by the religious.
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Member Since: 12/3/2011
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Originally posted by ****iNESS
Some of you sound just as angry and bigoted as those anti-gay church folk. Two different ends of the spectrums with the same rationale. ![Dancehall Queen](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/dancehall_zps88e4c4c6.png)
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Too true. ![Lipton](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/5b373a2e.gif)
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Member Since: 6/25/2010
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Originally posted by ****iNESS
Some of you sound just as angry and bigoted as those anti-gay church folk. Two different ends of the spectrums with the same rationale. ![Dancehall Queen](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/dancehall_zps88e4c4c6.png)
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Shut the **** up, ***. Coming in here with logic. BURN *******.
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Member Since: 3/4/2012
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Yet another reason I hate religion. ![Katie](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/e7c8e635.gif)
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Member Since: 10/28/2011
Posts: 21,283
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Originally posted by feuxtography
I'm glad you were. Its disgusting everytime someone like you comes into a thread like this and expects gays to hug the christians and accept their ******** because "they're not ALL like that" even though the majority has proven themselves to be.
And no, its not the same. Nothing happens when I say christians are pigs. Stuff does happen when people say gays dont deserve rights. What happens? They get their rights taken away. (see prop 8) which by the way, was voted in by the religious.
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Generalizing again. Your anti-Christian hate is based on generalizations. Disgusting, now?
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Member Since: 4/21/2012
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Originally posted by BLaCKPoWeR
No, no, no. You are acting like all Christians see things the same way. EVERYTHING is up for interpretation.
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No, you're assuming I think all christians see things the
same way. I'm perfectly aware that not all christians are
like this, but I'm also aware of what's actually in the bible.
On a related note: I'm Atheist because I've actually read the bible.
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Originally posted by feuxtography
I'm glad you were. Its disgusting everytime someone like you comes into a thread like this and expects gays to hug the christians and accept their ******** because "they're not ALL like that" even though the majority has proven themselves to be.
And no, its not the same. Nothing happens when I say christians are pigs. Stuff does happen when people say gays dont deserve rights. What happens? They get their rights taken away. (see prop 8) which by the way, was voted in by the religious.
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Exactly.
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Originally posted by ****iNESS
Some of you sound just as angry and bigoted as those anti-gay church folk. Two different ends of the spectrums with the same rationale. ![Dancehall Queen](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/dancehall_zps88e4c4c6.png)
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Oh, don't even start with that. The difference is that we were born
gay. Nobody was born with their doctrine that says people should
be stoned to death for sleeping with somebody of the same sex.
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Member Since: 3/17/2012
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Originally posted by Dancehall Queen
How many times have you read the bible?
The most religious guy I know, like hands out flyers at school and invites people to his church and carries his Bible with him everywhere and studies, is so accepting. You should know there's people like him. His church even held this pro-gay type thing that he posted on his facebook before and after, like "going to go to blah blah discussion about homosexuality, good to be informed" and then after "Jesus loves everyone.. no place for hate... love." yada yada.
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Probably around 8 times in complete full. ![Bibliotheque](http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/korn0818/ATRL_Smilies_All/atrlers/biblio_zps23dff242.gif) My dad is a pastor and I started at a christian college for youth ministries before dropping out.
Just because the most religious guy you know accepts gays, does not mean the bible nor its followers do. Hell, there was some ****** church at gay pride trying to swindle people in.
Its irrelevant though, the bible is actually very clear. And this whole "left up to interpretation" ******** can also be implied that christians are up to interpretation.
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