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Discussion: We are gay... deal with it!
Member Since: 7/30/2010
Posts: 8,199
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Originally posted by Satellites
I know it's your opinion and I respect that, but you don't have to refer to The Bible as ****.
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Im sorry ,I didnt mean the bible itself but how the texts in it are interpreted
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Member Since: 10/1/2008
Posts: 3,322
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Originally posted by Satellites
We don't give two ***** about your cyber bullying. We care about REAL LIFE stuff like the 7 GAY BOYS who committed suicide because they were being beaten and bullied in the flesh. Take your ass down the street and around the corner with that **** because I AM NOT THE ONE here for it. The fact remains that there are 7 boys who never had a chance to live a full life because of ignorant and uninformed, hateful people who pushed them to the edge. Instead of complaining to us about letting out a little frustration, how about you take your ass to the real bullies and do something about that. Dont preach to us about making some comments, like we said they should die or something. GET THE **** OUT!
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Damn, Satellites...you're direct but right! I like you!
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
Posts: 38,919
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Originally posted by Grin Toll
dude dun get me wrong. what's happening is terrible and there could be no excuse about that. but do you really think this is helping in any way?
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Would you rather us actually meet up and beat them senseless or simply vent our frustrations on a forum?
It's certainly helping honey.
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Member Since: 8/23/2010
Posts: 428
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Originally posted by Grin Toll
dude dun get me wrong. what's happening is terrible and there could be no excuse about that. but do you really think this is helping in any way?
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Your avie scares the hell outta me.
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Member Since: 9/5/2009
Posts: 11,946
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Who reported this?
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Member Since: 9/5/2010
Posts: 4,381
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Originally posted by What It Seems
Thats a naive statement, You cannot expect everyone to be nice, people express themselves and If u r gonna blame anyone, blame the Bible , Im happy i dont follow that ****
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What? That is not at all what I have been saying.
My point is that hate speech should be adopted as a legal offense in the United States of America, just like it is in the majority of the European Union, where it actually works.
oh and Satellites.
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ATRL Moderator
Member Since: 3/18/2009
Posts: 35,164
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Originally posted by Roman
Education is definitely crucial, I agree - but even in schools there are stubborn students who will not change their views because they simply have been raised this way.
I'm just saying that legal action has to be made possible against racist bullying, hate speech and other things of this sort.
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Maybe this generation won't change, but we just have to work on helping the next one. And you don't have to approve of someone, just tolerate or accept them and keep your opinions to yourself.
However, I am a firm believer in the First Amendment. I know we don't always agree with the things it protects, but it's an important concept that we must support! Many people are trying to take certain freedoms protected by the First Amendment away.
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Member Since: 1/19/2010
Posts: 3,212
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Originally posted by Katieheartxx
I knew this thing would get reported.
Anyway, I think we all need a couple lessons in life. Those people (the Facebookers in the OP) need to be a little more open about other lifestyles. They deal with people that are different heights than they are. Different weights, different eye colors, different shapes, different races, different names, different locations, and so on. Different orientations are just one more difference. Nothing more, nothing less. Humanity wasn't meant to be identical.
Also, the people that are saying hateful things to them need some self-reflection, too. For being the 'educated' side, there's a lot of hatred coming from it. You can't fight hate with hate, y'all. You fight hate with and . Saying things like you'll beat the **** out of them or that they should die or calling them dumb is not being very dignified. If they're supposedly the "uneducated" and "hateful" ones, then shouldn't we take higher road?
Education>>>>>>>>>Hate/Ignorance.
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Originally posted by Hi.Ðefinitiøn
Would you rather us actually meet up and beat them senseless or simply vent our frustrations on a forum?
It's certainly helping honey.
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These are your options?
How would you feel if a gay boy got offended over this post and actually hurt one of those people?
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Member Since: 7/30/2010
Posts: 8,199
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Originally posted by Roman
What? That is not at all what I have been saying.
My point is that hate speech should be adopted as a legal offense in the United States of America, just like it is in the majority of the European Union, where it actually works.
oh and Satellites.
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Most of ATRL is hate speech, where does that place us
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
Posts: 38,919
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Originally posted by Grin Toll
These are your options?
How would you feel if a gay boy got offended over this post and actually hurt one of those people?
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I wouldn't feel anything because what he does doesn't concern me. He's not my child.
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Member Since: 11/24/2006
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There are like 1000 comments like these on facebook, even more on tumblr.
What's the point of this thread?
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Member Since: 1/19/2010
Posts: 3,212
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Originally posted by Hi.Ðefinitiøn
I wouldn't feel anything because what he does doesn't concern me. He's not my child.
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Yet you get upset over some other strangers being bullied to death.. They are all human beings. If their opinion shaped poorly, it's our fault as well.
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Member Since: 8/23/2010
Posts: 428
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Originally posted by MrDeeds
There are like 1000 comments like these on facebook, even more on tumblr.
What's the point of this thread?
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I was kinda wondering the same thing. I've been lurking the 'wear purple on Wednesday' event page, and every third comment is like this.
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Member Since: 9/5/2010
Posts: 4,381
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Originally posted by supaspaz
Maybe this generation won't change, but we just have to work on helping the next one. And you don't have to approve of someone, just tolerate or accept them and keep your opinions to yourself.
However, I am a firm believer in the First Amendment. I know we don't always agree with the things it protects, but it's an important concept that we must support! Many people are trying to take certain freedoms protected by the First Amendment away.
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There are singular (thankfully rare) cases here in which people, often students, get bullied, stalked and discredited for being Jewish, gay, Turkish or disabled either by people who call themselves Neo-Nazis or members of a party called 'NPD'.
Please tell me how they have earned their right to express their "opinions" and should be left alone.
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Originally posted by What It Seems
Most of ATRL is hate speech, where does that place us
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hate speech
–noun
speech that attacks a person or group on the basis of race, religion, gender, or sexual orientation.
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You seem to be reading a different ATRL than me.
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Member Since: 9/13/2010
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Being gay is a choice IMO, just as being straight is. But being bullied to the point of suicide because of that...? No.
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Member Since: 6/4/2010
Posts: 38,919
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Originally posted by Grin Toll
Yet you get upset over some other strangers being bullied to death.. They are all human beings. If their opinion shaped poorly, it's our fault as well.
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That was a very poor example, and actually I don't. I've stated my views on suicide and it's never a solution.
You don't make an ounce of sense.
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Member Since: 7/18/2010
Posts: 29,717
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This was reported... because...
And I can't ****ing believe that. And everyone agreed too.
WHY THE **** WOULD SOMEBODY CHOOSE TO BE GAY?! That's stupid. Who would want to go through all that ****. Jesus.
I hate the world.
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Member Since: 12/19/2009
Posts: 518
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Originally posted by Roman
I don't care about their rights. Their hate speech ideas infringe on the Universal Declaration of Human Rights set by the United Nations.
This is exactly the reason why KKK, the Westboro Baptist Church and other "organizations" can spread their "ideas" freely to the public without facing consequences.
It's horrible, and something has to be done.
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Roman, have you done Human Rights or....??
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Member Since: 7/30/2010
Posts: 8,199
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Originally posted by Roman
There are singular (thankfully rare) cases here in which people, often students, get bullied, stalked and discredited for being Jewish, gay, Turkish or disabled either by people who call themselves Neo-Nazis or members of a party called 'NPD'.
Please tell me how they have earned their right to express their "opinions" and should be left alone.
You seem to be reading a different ATRL than me.
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In This thread , where the users attacked the "straighties"
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Banned
Member Since: 9/13/2010
Posts: 14,033
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Originally posted by zach
This was reported... because...
And I can't ****ing believe that. And everyone agreed too.
WHY THE **** WOULD SOMEBODY CHOOSE TO BE GAY?! That's stupid. Who would want to go through all that ****. Jesus.
I hate the world.
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I know this is probably a REALLY bad comparison, but kleptomaniacs can't help the fact that they steal. It's a natural instinct. Like being gay is, IMO.
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