[GreasyBruce]

Taylor Swift is setting herself up for a media teardown. It will happen eventually, it always does.

[Sinister]

Originally posted by Retro

It has an influence, but not one that can be reliably measured in quantitative terms. We can't say that out of the 230 million impressions of Blurred Lines in its peak week, there were x amount of people of whom y amount then decided to purchase the song on iTunes. Similarly, because listener requesting has so little effect on what's actually played, we can't rule out the fact that most of radio is focused on predicting the next hit and kind of fulfilling its own prophecy through that, or is focused on mimicking the current iTunes/Billboard charts to a reasonable extent, or is focused on reflecting the interests of paying major labels. It's not fair to count it with sales and streaming because as I see it, nothing but the total number of impressions is actually quantifiable at all - not even the number of actual people reached.

yeah...but a lot of the people listening probably already had it and also listened to it multiple times on the radio that week

Blurred Lines is one of the biggest radio and single selling hits...it matches hand and hand in cases like this

[Cap10Planet]

Taylor is more marketable to conservatives because she doesn't walk around like this:

[Retro]

Originally posted by lonnie

Didn't SPEAK NOW sell over a million first week yet LOUD and TD outsold it?
If rih plans her next era well, and promotes more than the first singles she stands a chance, I'm not saying she will but she might

Loud and TD sold nowhere near Speak Now in the US and only about a million more globally.

[Cap10Planet]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

Taylor Swift is setting herself up for a media teardown. It will happen eventually, it always does.

It didn't happen to Celine Dion.

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by lonnie

Taylor is marketed the same way as Brit was during BOMT, shy American sweetheart minus the teasing sex appeal

So not the same way? Considering the teasing is she a bad girl or a good girl? thing was the cornerstone of her appeal. How ****ing genius is it to have a barely legal girl singing "I'm not that innocent" while looking completely chaste and pure yet lying on her back with a bare midriff while a guy is lowered on top of her

[lonnie]

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

Taylor Swift is setting herself up for a media teardown. It will happen eventually, it always does.

not really, the girl is smart and won't make the same mistakes let's say Brit did, what would the media tear her down for? Her numerous boyfriends?

[YoYo]

We only say Taylor is more marketable in hindsight. The truth is, she's inexplicably huge.

I still don't know how this happened. Her fanbase is rabid.

[Retro]

Originally posted by Sinister

yeah...but a lot of the people listening probably already had it and also listened to it multiple times on the radio that week

Blurred Lines is one of the biggest radio and single selling hits...it matches hand and hand in cases like this

In cases like this, sure, but your argument completely breaks down in other situations.

We could talk about how consumers show comparatively little regard for singles like "Where Have You Been," despite radio absolutely whoring out such tracks because they have come to rely upon the artist(s) as hitmakers.

We could also talk about, more interestingly, situations like Britney having 11 number one hits going strictly by sales in the US throughout her career, but only five on the Hot 100 due to radio not playing her songs as much or banning those songs or being overweighted in general.

[Rami328]

Why does the sick bXtch that is Jenny Lawrence have her own base thread on atrl

[Damien M]

Originally posted by MusicTalker

She's basically a clean slate. Her only tabloid stories have been innocent relationships. Her only complaint is that she dates too much, which is a stupid complaint for a 20-something year old.

She's found a good niche for herself.

Katy is this way as well, although with a little more edge and sexuality than Taylor. Taylor's lyrics are all very innocent, whereas Katy isn't afraid of sexual imagery and innuendo from time to time.

Neither Katy nor Taylor have any sort of edge lol.
Rihanna will be more remembered than both.

[GreasyBruce]

Originally posted by lonnie

not really, the girl is smart and won't make the same mistakes let's say Brit did, what would the media tear her down for? Her numerous boyfriends?

There's always something. Or they will make something up.

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by Nicole

In what sense? Why is she more marketable than Katy? (you could say Rihanna is black and not American)

She's basically old school Britney, without the sex, a family friendly image, and a lot of faux credibility.

[lonnie]

Originally posted by Retro

Loud and TD sold nowhere near Speak Now in the US and only about a million more globally.

I was speaking more on the worldwide front, I know she did more than double their numbers in the U.S, if it's the U.S the no
I've never understood why the U.S doesn't stan for rih's albums as hard as everywhere else, is it because she's a foreigner?

Originally posted by GreasyBruce

So not the same way? Considering the teasing is she a bad girl or a good girl? thing was the cornerstone of her appeal. How ****ing genius is it to have a barely legal girl singing "I'm not that innocent" while looking completely chaste and pure yet lying on her back with a bare midriff while a guy is lowered on top of her

Genius, the BOMT video alone
Like the sweet high school girl just waiting to be corrupted

[slobro]

What I don't understand is why when Billboard ranks their all-time songs, they base it on chart performance (and adjust them per year because of different climates) instead of sales, but when ranking albums they purely use sales instead of chart performance, and they don't take market changes into account unlike when they rank songs

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by Damien M

Neither Katy nor Taylor have any sort of edge lol.
Rihanna will be more remembered than both.

Katy has more edge than Taylor, and is less acceptable for kids. Her music and image is full on innuendo.

[MusicTalker]

Originally posted by Damien M

Neither Katy nor Taylor have any sort of edge lol.
Rihanna will be more remembered than both.

Katy has some ever so slightly with her sex appeal. She's not exactly clean cut, lol.

[BlueTimberwolf]

Originally posted by YoYo

We only say Taylor is more marketable in hindsight. The truth is, she's inexplicably huge.

I still don't know how this happened. Her fanbase is rabid.

A pretty blonde girl singing puppy love songs is not marketable?

[Nicole]

Katy is totally kid-friendly. Have you not seen her last few videos? They're literally made for kids to keep clicking and watching over and over again. Just cuz her boobs bounce while she cutely/goofily runs from a tiger doesn't mean she's too edgy for kids.

[Jezang Looz]

Originally posted by SebaMonster

No. The Pinkprint era is already 9 months long and the album hasn't even been released yet.

g'night