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Discussion: Is Bruno Mars the new prince of Pop?
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In time he will. He is respected for his talent and applauded for his amazing stage presence. He's funny, handsome, and has a GREAT personality. We still have yet to see what he can truly do. His albums sell, his singles sell, his tours sell (better than some of the pop girls). He's on a great path. He just needs more time.
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Originally posted by swissman
Those don't indicate cultural impact. I'm talking about receipts that prove that the general public (beyond just his fans) cares about him, wants to know more about him, discusses his latest music videos, performances album release, etc.
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Well, they care enough to buy his records and tickets.
His youtube channel has 4,8 M subscribers and considering he is not part of VEVO, that's great and that's a proof they care enough with his MV.
Bruno doesn't have big fanbase like Bieber, Gaga or One Direction. His sales mostly come from GP. Just like the woman in your avi.
His performance in award show or other kind of show always get praise by GP.
Just like I said before, Bruno just wanna be known for his music. He doesn't have 100+ endorsements like other celebrities, controversial rumour around his life, etc.
He makes himself doesn't have something to talk about outside his music. So, that makes GP don't have anything to talk about him except his music.
GP show their attention to him when he releases music or perform on TV.
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As a Bruno Mars fan, I have to admit that even though he's popular, he doesn't really have the 'celebrity' status that his peers do.
That's just the kind of person he is, though. He doesn't get attention by exposing his personal life, or by pulling outrageous stunts, or by doing reality TV. He rose to fame because of his music alone, and at the end of the day, that's really all he is; a musician.
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Originally posted by IVY
Go to youtube and see how huge his videos are or the little dislikes they get, and read the comments that people post everyday and you will know how influential his music in some people's lives, but of course you will say this's not important.
Or the comments down here:
http://www.amazon.com/Unorthodox-Juk...rds=BRUNO+MARS
And yes most of the reviews are positive. Many are casual buyers who perhaps heard one of his songs on the radio and wanted to give it a shot. |
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Originally posted by Merelyn
Well, they care enough to buy his records and tickets.
His youtube channel has 4,8 M subscribers and considering he is not part of VEVO, that's great and that's a proof they care enough with his MV.
Bruno doesn't have big fanbase like Bieber, Gaga or One Direction. His sales mostly come from GP. Just like the woman in your avi.
His performance in award show or other kind of show always get praise by GP.
Just like I said before, Bruno just wanna be known for his music. He doesn't have 100+ endorsements like other celebrities, controversial rumour around his life, etc.
He makes himself doesn't have something to talk about outside his music. So, that makes GP don't have anything to talk about him except his music.
GP show their attention to him when he releases music or perform on TV.
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These are good receipts for popularity and his music is undeniably popular, but the people watching his videos, buying his tickets and singles, commenting are most likely fans. This doesn't account for the person who isn't a fan. What do they think of him? What do they say about him? Do they ever discuss his new releases the way they'd say, "Hey did you see the new Gaga video?" It's highly possible people talk about him but I doubt that he's ever a hot topic. He's amazingly talented but not a very interesting celebrity in the way MJ was.
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Originally posted by Chill Bill
As a Bruno Mars fan, I have to admit that even though he's popular, he doesn't really have the 'celebrity' status that his peers do.
That's just the kind of person he is, though. He doesn't get attention by exposing his personal life, or by pulling outrageous stunts, or by doing reality TV. He rose to fame because of his music alone, and at the end of the day, that's really all he is; a musician.
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I absolutely agree with this but should this make his music less influential or deny the fact that he's making a name for himself in the pop world? Of course not, he's a very popular pop figure right now and he's more successful than other male artists and his hits are memorable.
But people here are still refusing to admit that bruno's music has some kind of influence and even if he smashes with his third album and releases some pop gems, they will still be saying the same thing over and over again. He's not important because he doesn't expose his personal life and he stays away from the spot light.
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Originally posted by Cap10Planet
Yes. Some contenders are too local to be it.
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Originally posted by IVY
I absolutely agree with this but should this make his music less influential or deny the fact that he's making a name for himself in the pop world? Of course not, he's a very popular pop figure right now and he's more successful than other male artists and his hits are memorable.
But people here are still refusing to admit that bruno's music has some kind of influence and even if he smashes with his third album and releases some pop gems, they will still be saying the same thing over and over again. He's not important because he doesn't expose his personal life and he stays away from the spot light.
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I think that if he smashes with his third album, and releases music that has cultural impact in the way that MJ had, then he can for sure be considered the Prince of Pop. And he's very new to the game, you don't need to feel so pressed that there are people saying he isn't the Prince of Pop. MJ wasn't even called the King of Pop until 20 years into his career.
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JT says no but Bruno is definitely hot on his heels.
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Originally posted by swissman
These are good receipts for popularity and his music is undeniably popular, but the people watching his videos, buying his tickets and singles, commenting are most likely fans. This doesn't account for the person who isn't a fan. What do they think of him? What do they say about him? Do they ever discuss his new releases the way they'd say, "Hey did you see the new Gaga video?" It's highly possible people talk about him but I doubt that he's ever a hot topic. He's amazingly talented but not a very interesting celebrity in the way MJ was.
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How do you know they don't? If you're saying that for example the views for his music videos are mostly from fans then damn bruno must have a lot of fans even more than Gaga or Beyonce. And we are talking about bruno, he's not some teen idol whose little fans will keep refreshing the page to give his videos more views, it's just bruno's music is universal and a lot of people enjoy it, even non fans.
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Originally posted by IVY
How do you know they don't? If you're saying that for example the views for his music videos are mostly from fans then damn bruno must have a lot of fans even more than Gaga or Beyonce. And we are talking about bruno, he's not some teen idol whose little fans will keep refreshing the page to give his videos more views, it's just bruno's music is universal and a lot of people enjoy it, even non fans.
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Yes of course many people enjoy it. It's good music.
But that doesn't translate into the artist as a celebrity necessarily. He has amazing stats, it's just that a Prince or King or Queen is the figurehead and I don't think he seems like the figurehead of pop music.
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Originally posted by swissman
Yes of course many people enjoy it. It's good music.
But that doesn't translate into you as a celebrity necessarily. He has amazing stats, it's just that a Prince or King or Queen is the figurehead and I don't think he seems like the figurehead of pop music.
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Why does it have to be about celebrity status? Why not just focus on the music itself and the achievements bruno has achieved through his music? Why not talk about how Just the Way You Are" is holding the record of the longest-reigning debut format hit in the chart's 50-year history, being able to spend 20 weeks atop Adult Contemporary or how fast he spawned five number one singles in the US, the only male who reached five leaders more quickly than Bruno Mars was Elvis Presley. I mean at the end of the day music is what matters the most and people will remember the music and the songs..
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Originally posted by IVY
Why does it have to be about celebrity status? Why not just focus on the music itself and the achievements bruno has achieved through his music? Why not talk about how Just the Way You Are" is holding the record of the longest-reigning debut format hit in the chart's 50-year history, being able to spend 20 weeks atop Adult Contemporary or how fast he spawned five number one singles in the US, the only male who reached five leaders more quickly than Bruno Mars was Elvis Presley. I mean at the end of the day music is what matters the most and people will remember the music and the songs..
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I'm with you in in the idea that celebrity status shouldn't matter, but the fact is it does. At the end of the day the music is what matters most but as time passes you remember more of the artist for their influence and popularity rather than the success of their work. I doubt anyone off the streets could name just 2 of Elvis' #1 songs, but he is well remembered because he was a phenomenon, because people were truly interested in him and he was in the news etc. (Of course his musical success is what made him famous, but in Bruno's case he has the success without the huge public interest in him as a person). It's unfortunate that its this way, but that's how it is, especially if we're talking about things like King of Pop.
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No. Not even close. 
Justin Bieber is.
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No I love Bruno. He'll need more than stats and hits to earn that title. The King Of Pop was after all MJ.
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Originally posted by MaoMars
Wat? Are you saying Usher and Chris Brown are known worldwide as much as Bruno? No way!!! Usher and CB are know in the USA, they are not famous on other countries. Bruno, in other hand, is pretty known and his songs are pretty much played everywhere. Well, u tried.
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I'm sorry what?
Now i can understand you're saying Chris is local because obviously he isn't doing much damage on the charts these days (even though if he releases some TUTM type of sh*t he'll have a WW hit song) but USHER? Goodbye. just... no. Both Usher & Chris had worldwide hit songs and hit albums before Bruno even entered the industry.
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I'm not so into these so-called artists, JT and his peers, they don't make real music, they're just signed to some label and sing on some produced tracks by other musicians, and marketing their stuff is a way based on their popularity and looks.
But all I have to say is, Bruno Mars is the best "artist" in the industry right now, and the guys here who blame him for not having a global fanbase is because he doesn't want to, almost everybody from Britney, JT to MJ & Lady Gaga gained popularity in the world because of their scandals, Bruno has no scandals, he reminds me of Prince in a way he keeps his **** to himself and doesn't go "global".
Well, Bruno may not have the best sales overall, but talent-wise, stage-wise, vocally.. he is ten times better than everybody in the biz right in this moment.
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You see I want to make something clear you guys
Most of listeners today pretend to like something undeserved to be liked.
If we were now in the 80's, JT wouldn't even be known to one state in the US, while Bruno would dominate the globe.
People back then appreciated talent, so can you guys give me a talent JT has?
Dancing? that's a talent, but has nothing to do with music.
Playing instruments? A couple of guitar riffs, a couple of notes on piano, hell, I do that myself.
Singing? His voice live makes a human suffer from immediate cancer, his whiney falsetto makes Marvin Gaye dig his own ditch.
What made JT a superstar is: 1. Being a handsome & good-looking white boy 2. Having a relationship with another famous superstar "Britney Spears" 3. Breaking-up with her & writing songs about it (More like Taylor Swift). 4. Pretending to bring sexy back while sexy never left (Hy, Prince!)
Bruno's artistry is unmatched, his skills of shredding guitar solos (Can JT play Jimi Hendrix?), and vocally he's amazing (I guess we don't have to even talk about it), his diversity in music is undeniable (from reggae to rock, to soul, to R&B, to jazz... and he's producing & writing his own pieces of music), he choreographes his own videos, he stays true to music.. What y'all want more? A relationship with Lady Gaga? A famous TV scandal? The guys is an artist, and no need for him to be a prince of something.
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