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Discussion: What Made Britney More Succesful
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she came out first, Max Martin. Without Max she would have ended up like Mandy
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Originally posted by Topher
Really? Cause if you we're around for the music, you'd know BSB were huge culturally pop hasn't Serena's greater impact. And if it was so easy, why does Xtina only have one? Why did Jessica barely scrape double platinum as well as pink. Why did Mandy not get platinum. Why didn't destinys child get one? Diamond albums were just handed out like Talk that Talk was with a free phone activation at best buy. Explain all of Britney's album sales?!
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well Xtina went 8x and destinys childs first went 9x, so those were close. But there was a considerable fluctuation of album sales during that time, which lasted from 98 - 2001. Jessica and Mandy were at the tail end of it, aswell as p!nk.
Im not saying Britney wasnt iconic, but besides those two eras, shes tailed off a bit.
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Originally posted by Mtjjproducer
she came out first, Max Martin. Without Max she would have ended up like Mandy
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Didnt britney say she always wanted to sound like Sheryl crow when she debuted. I dont think she wanted to be bubblegum pop anyways.
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Originally posted by D.M.F
Your fave's best friend Christina Aguilera. I know you know, love, and stan for her like Brit does.
I'd hope Brit sold more studio albums since she's got more of them out than X. X's got a #1 tour unlike Birt.
Nope, according to things like the United World Chart, MLJ >>>>>>>>>> BOMT; radio barely even plays Baby nowadays either.
Her last single, "Moves Like Jagger," a collaboration with Adam Levine's Maroon 5, was one of the biggest hits of 2011, spending four weeks atop the Hot 100 and selling 4.9 million copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan.
- http://www.billboard.com/news/christ...06735352.story
Billboard knows, and says that Moves Like Jagger's also the legend's song. That classic will be forever in X's discography.
Even Britney knows Xtina's superior. Deal With it.
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Her number one tour has Justin attached to it. I'd hope that two stars of their status would do so. ...baby went #1 in more countries. Moves like jagger is gonna have bigger numbers because it was released in this decade! Look at the album they came from a 12.99 album that sold 15 million>>>>a song that sold 4.5 million at 1.29/.99 cents
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Originally posted by ItsKingsleyBitch
Gaga is the only person that even comes close.
Neither Rihanna nor Beyonce in their debut had HALF the impact Britney did in any way, shape or form
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Originally posted by Topher
Born this way bloop (loved Gaga till here)
4 bloop (*facepalm*)
Rihanna (if Britney slapped her name as a feature to anyone she would have as many number ones) Rihanna's album sales also are a non factor.
Do any of these artists have 2 diamond albums? Do they have iconic performances people remember?
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I think you're just being biased because Born this Way had plenty of impact. Whether or not someone personally liked it is a different thing.
4 is just ONE album in Beyonce's entire career and does not negate her legendary status. In fact it in many ways adds to it. You are forgetting her involvement with Destiny's Child, and all the other aspects of her career as well.
Rihanna as was mentioned has a lot of impact through her number ones as well as on the internet and singles sales.
It's a bit irresponsible to start saying that no one except Britney Spears has achieved legend's status. One thing about stanning is if you get too delusional it makes your favourite look bad.
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Originally posted by Topher
Invalid points. Moves like Jagger is Maroon 5's song. They were contractually obligated to add xtuna. They could add Mandy Moore and they'd have a successful single still. ...baby one more time(single) went number 1 in way more countries than genie in a bottle. Britney's album also sold 6 million more in the US and 10 million more world wide. There is a 60 million album difference between the two worldwide, 20 million difference in the US. Xtinas last hit was????? Candy Man? 07? Or was it Hurt? Or was it Ain't no other man? To top it off back to basics is a double disc so the numbers are doubled. Xtina isn't it anymore. She will always be in Brits shadow. Xfactor and the voice comp is the only comp she's really won. Also, lets not compare tour numbers.
So much reason Britney is the last legend. She had it. She marketed herself well and she just had it. There are amazing performers like Beyonce, but Britney has everyone talking and truly caring for. If the original pop girls were the Brady bunch, Britney would be Marsha. The pretty sister. Xtina would be the middle child. Ugly fat and not as popular. Jessica Simpson, although hotter than both, just tried to hard to be both and not herself. I don't consider Mandy to ever be a pop girl.
Xtina fans can go shave their backs now.
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Pretty much everything that needs to be said was said here now /endthread to prevent further damages.
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Originally posted by like2throw
well Xtina went 8x and destinys childs first went 9x, so those were close. But there was a considerable fluctuation of album sales during that time, which lasted from 98 - 2001. Jessica and Mandy were at the tail end of it, aswell as p!nk.
Im not saying Britney wasnt iconic, but besides those two eras, shes tailed off a bit.
Didnt britney say she always wanted to sound like Sheryl crow when she debuted. I dont think she wanted to be bubblegum pop anyways.
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The Britney album stands at 6 million?
In the zone 3 million
Blackout 1 million
Circus 1.8 million
Femme Fatale 800k
Consider the increase in album sales you were talking about, I'm sure her album sales are stellar for a 10+ career
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The X Factor....
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Originally posted by swissman
I think you're just being biased because Born this Way had plenty of impact. Whether or not someone personally liked it is a different thing.
4 is just ONE album in Beyonce's entire career and does not negate her legendary status. In fact it in many ways adds to it. You are forgetting her involvement with Destiny's Child, and all the other aspects of her career as well.
Rihanna as was mentioned has a lot of impact through her number ones as well as on the internet and singles sales.
It's a bit irresponsible to start saying that no one except Britney Spears has achieved legend's status. One thing about stanning is if you get too delusional it makes your favourite look bad.
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Did you not forget the backlash Gaga received from the album? She is still doing her thing tour wise, but there is a reason she laid low and marry the night got pulled. 6 singles in 6 months? And a majority her sales coming from her first week. I like gaga. As the artist. I can say the album hurt her career wise and so can all the people who bad mouthed her.
Beyonce is a legend? But Britney is an icon? 4 didn't receive a 90 on metacritic. Sit.
Rihanna is a fun artist, but?
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Britney just had it all. Nough said. I'm out.
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Originally posted by D.M.F
Your fave's best friend Christina Aguilera. I know you know, love, and stan for her like Brit does.
I'd hope Brit sold more studio albums since she's got more of them out than X. X's got a #1 tour unlike Birt.
Nope, according to things like the United World Chart, MLJ >>>>>>>>>> BOMT; radio barely even plays Baby nowadays either.
Her last single, "Moves Like Jagger," a collaboration with Adam Levine's Maroon 5, was one of the biggest hits of 2011, spending four weeks atop the Hot 100 and selling 4.9 million copies, according to Nielsen SoundScan.
- http://www.billboard.com/news/christ...06735352.story
Billboard knows, and says that Moves Like Jagger's also the legend's song. That classic will be forever in X's discography.
Even Britney knows Xtina's superior. Deal with it.
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Can we just drop MLJ already and move on. Besides, everybody knows X is not the reason its charting but Maroon5 alone? If people are really here for X just like what you're tryna prove with your invalid facts aka MLJ charting longer than anything Britney puts out. Then explain to us why Your Body remains bubbling under US itunes chart and non-existent in other countries? If she really made that huge impact with MLJ then why is her current single underperforming rn?
And dont even try responding with lack of promo coz Britney tried that with HIAM and it only took 8 hours for HIAM to hit that #1 with 0 promo compared to X's Your Body being shown in US television and WW that has 13mtops ratings.
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Originally posted by RCL
Than Jessica , Mandy and Christina? What was In Britney That Made her STAND OUT? And Differ From the other lady's?
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She was VERY relatable, had a flawless image (gorgeous body, face and just enough naughty), she could dance and she had a unique voice.
Mandy & Jessica are just blah, bland and boring.
Christina has her voice, but thats it.
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Britney was everything to all people. She was the virginal ingenue and the sultry teen temptress, she was Mary the Madonna and Mary Magdalene, she was Betty and Veronica. The other girls didn't tap into that same gold mine of dichotomies and it shows. That's why she was superior to all of the rest. It wasn't even about her being "first." She could have been fifth and still would have been bigger then all the others that came out. Technically Christina debuted first with an adult contemporary song called Reflection in the Spring of 1998 and no one was listening to her. Britney was the catalyst and she was the answer to a market that people were desperate for. She was Madonna for teenagers.
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Originally posted by D.M.F
X's more successful than Brit though (like now with Burlesque Soundtrack still charting unlike Femme Fatale, and Moves Like Jagger being bigger than anything Brit's ever released) clearly shown by people actually tuning into her show in droves.
Fyi ya'll X came out 1st, and actually does have the X factor.
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She is Britney Spears. I think it sums it all up.
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Member Since: 6/19/2011
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Originally posted by Topher
Invalid points. Moves like Jagger is Maroon 5's song. They were contractually obligated to add xtuna. They could add Mandy Moore and they'd have a successful single still. ...baby one more time(single) went number 1 in way more countries than genie in a bottle. Britney's album also sold 6 million more in the US and 10 million more world wide. There is a 60 million album difference between the two worldwide, 20 million difference in the US. Xtinas last hit was????? Candy Man? 07? Or was it Hurt? Or was it Ain't no other man? To top it off back to basics is a double disc so the numbers are doubled. Xtina isn't it anymore. She will always be in Brits shadow. Xfactor and the voice comp is the only comp she's really won. Also, lets not compare tour numbers.
So much reason Britney is the last legend. She had it. She marketed herself well and she just had it. There are amazing performers like Beyonce, but Britney has everyone talking and truly caring for. If the original pop girls were the Brady bunch, Britney would be Marsha. The pretty sister. Xtina would be the middle child. Ugly fat and not as popular. Jessica Simpson, although hotter than both, just tried to hard to be both and not herself. I don't consider Mandy to ever be a pop girl.
Xtina fans can go shave their backs now.
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Member Since: 3/27/2012
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Originally posted by Topher
Did you not forget the backlash Gaga received from the album? She is still doing her thing tour wise, but there is a reason she laid low and marry the night got pulled. 6 singles in 6 months? And a majority her sales coming from her first week. I like gaga. As the artist. I can say the album hurt her career wise and so can all the people who bad mouthed her.
Beyonce is a legend? But Britney is an icon? 4 didn't receive a 90 on metacritic. Sit.
Rihanna is a fun artist, but?
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4 didn't receive a 90 on Metacritic. Yes. Has Britney even come close to that score? Metacritic isn't a legends scoring system, so what does it matter?
Also backlash doesn't mean you're not a legend, six singles in six months is impressive, and yet you disparage Marry the Night for not doing well as if it should have after being the sixth single. And lastly, using the people who bad-mouthed Gaga to prove something against Gaga is 100% biased.
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I think the first, obvious reason is the already-mentioned fact that she was the first out of the gate. Because of that, she didn't have any younger female pop competition for the first few months of her career.
I think the second biggest factor is that by the time Christina released her second album, Britney already had three out and was working on a fourth. She was constantly putting out new music in the early 2000's which kept her relevant and in the spotlight, and could only benefit her sales and success.
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There's something irresistible about Britney that you just can't explain. She's a legend and there will never be another Britney, ever.
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Originally posted by Chickenchiki
There's something irresistible about Britney that you just can't explain. She's a legend and there will never be another Britney, ever.
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That is true . Like weather you love her or hate her there is just something about her that u just can't not be apart of you know?
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Originally posted by heteroflexible
Can we just drop MLJ already and move on. Besides, everybody knows X is not the reason its charting but Maroon5 alone? If people are really here for X just like what you're tryna prove with your invalid facts aka MLJ charting longer than anything Britney puts out. Then explain to us why Your Body remains bubbling under US itunes chart and non-existent in other countries? If she really made that huge impact with MLJ then why is her current single underperforming rn?
And dont even try responding with lack of promo coz Britney tried that with HIAM and it only took 8 hours for HIAM to hit that #1 with 0 promo compared to X's Your Body being shown in US television and WW that has 13mtops ratings.
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well said
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